Should Treasure Island Media Be Shut Down?

[Guest]

Today's cover escort, Chase Young, however, shows how difficult it can be to make people pay for risky behavior when the behavior is NOT doing something, such as wearing a condom (although I do believe in restricting bareback porn):

Barebacking in gay porn just doesn’t happen randomly. Studios set their policies and the models make the decision. For 19-year-old Chase Young, he has decided unprotected sex is for him.

 

Although Chase has only been working in gay porn for a year he clearly knows and understands the risks.

 

“You should know what you are getting into and get tested before you shoot a scene of course,” said Chase. “If someone wants to do it, or will do it, then let them. They should be grown up to know the responsibilities of that decision.”

 

Some models have been type-casted early in the porn careers because they actively participate in bareback porn.

 

“I try to keep barebacking at a low,” explained Chase. “I will do it only if I and the other models get tested. I get to see the results with my own eyes and get to know the model to make sure he doesn’t seem like a slut or that he would catch something easy.”

 

Boy, would it be nice if they could find a way to tax stupidity.

[Steven_Draker]

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[+ dupontversDC]

I don't think you get it. It's not about "morals"; it's about taking responsibility for one's own behavior. As long as I have sex responsibly, my hiring escorts doesn't impose costs on other people. I'm not asking other people to pay thousands of dollars per month in medical costs, social security costs, dialysis, cancer treatment, disability payments, and so on, just so that I can enjoy escorts. What I believe is that people who choose to engage in risky behaviors should pay taxes in order to defray the costs their behaviors engender. It is not about either religious or self-imposed moral values--it's about personal responsibility. Anything I do which does not incur a cost to society--well, everyone can shut up about it. If someone does things which make it likely for them to become burdens to society, however, society has a right, and probably an obligation to make that person pay for that risk. It's not too complicated a concept.

 

 

So every person who eats a Big Mac should pay, I hope you lead a perfect life: you must be very fit with 3-4% body fat right? You ever drink alcohol? I'm sure not. Must be hard to work with all the exercise to keep yourself so fit so you are never a burden for your actions.

 

Yes, you have a moral view of everyone who doesn't live the "clean life" you preach and clearly follow and want the others who don't share your view to pay.

 

I have similar views: I would like to stop paying taxes so all the takers in the ghetto who make poor decisions about education don't buy their twinkies with my hard earned cash.

 

Just curious, what's your BMI? What's your cholesterol? Just want to see if you are doing things I don't approve of and can judge about you because you will be a burden on me, the taxpayer.

[+ dupontversDC]

Boy, would it be nice if they could find a way to tax stupidity.

 

Yes, whatever you consider stupid should be taxed. Damn the values of the First Amendment. If I don't like it, tax it. And those of us who reject that Stalinist view "don't get it or understand" what is clearly such an easy concept. Yep.

[+ dupontversDC]

If someone does things which make it likely for them to become burdens to society, however, society has a right, and probably an obligation to make that person pay for that risk. It's not too complicated a concept.

 

Are STI rates higher among men who have sex with men? If so, we should tax all men who have sex with men, clearly, .... agree? You must agree with this, its the logical extension.

[bigvalboy]

I hope all of you who want to start regulating all sorts of behavior you don't approve of don't engage in anything others may want to regulate.

 

I hope all of you who want to impose your narrow views on others don't engage in activities others may want to make illegal.

 

Seems odd that people who engage in a minority sexual practice (gays) and a minority of a minority (prostitutes) want to start throwing around their moral high ground.

What exactly is the difference between what you guys want to do to TIM and what right-wing Christian nuts want to do to all gays and especially those dirty gays who hire hookers?

 

Would seem a charge of "hypocrisy" could be thrown back at many of you, because I'm sure on many other issues your view is, "don't impose your bigoted, narrow-minded views on me."

 

+1....I avoided posting on this thread until now, because I just knew what some of the opinions would be like. It is frustrating sometimes trying to understand how people formulate opinions, and worse yet trying to respond, so more often than not I will just read without participating, but this morning I rather liked DupontDC's post. That's it, just had to throw in my two nickels.

[JoshChgo]

I hope all of you who want to start regulating all sorts of behavior you don't approve of don't engage in anything others may want to regulate.

 

I hope all of you who want to impose your narrow views on others don't engage in activities others may want to make illegal.

 

Seems odd that people who engage in a minority sexual practice (gays) and a minority of a minority (prostitutes) want to start throwing around their moral high ground.

 

What exactly is the difference between what you guys want to do to TIM and what right-wing Christian nuts want to do to all gays and especially those dirty gays who hire hookers?

 

Would seem a charge of "hypocrisy" could be thrown back at many of you, because I'm sure on many other issues your view is, "don't impose your bigoted, narrow-minded views on me."

 

There's a reason why many people avoid driving the Dupont Circle and it's simply because all it really does is go around and around and around - offering to some who are informed and who drive it, traffic arteries to other destinations. But to others, it's simply a destination which will always lead to the same place. Nowhere.

 

Suggesting that people who desire to stop or change the reckless and irresponsible profiting of business from furthering the spread of HIV/AIDS as having a narrow view of life; illuminates your very own narrow and disconnected view of the world in which we all have to live in.

 

To marginalize and minimize people's importance as a minority, which you have done here; and to then further marginalize them again into a sub-minority of people who seemingly have no standing to slow, cease, prevent and eradicate the spread of HIV/AIDS to others, is probably one of the most ignorant, offensive and unenlightened statements of view I have heard in quite some time. Since you obviously view yourself as a marginalized minority who should be seen and not heard, perhaps you should be working on your own personal self-worth instead of throwing around a higher moral ground, here.

 

Society as a whole is a complex shaping of laws and regulations which are in place to prevent chaos and mayhem in our everyday life. All one need do is to look around and you will see how these laws and regulations govern your life. It's a challenging balance between amendment rights, privacy and the furthering of a civilized society.

 

Treasure Island Media is a reckless and irresponsible business, furthering the spread and infection of HIV/AIDS. Their workplace alone, exposes employees, sexual actors and non-sexual work-crew to infectious fluids and objects which the State of California has cited them for and found them liable for such reckless business practices.

 

Individuals in the privacy of their own homes, doing whatever they should choose to do with themselves has nothing to do with this post. Individuals are responsible for their own choices and behavior.

 

But when a business profits from furthering the spread and infection of a deadly virus (untreated) into the society which it operates and profits from, then yes, that's regulation I can live with.

[+ dupontversDC]

Treasure Island Media is a reckless and irresponsible business, furthering the spread and infection of HIV/AIDS. Their workplace alone, exposes employees, sexual actors and non-sexual work-crew to infectious fluids and objects which the State of California has cited them for and found them liable for such reckless business practices.

 

So its clear you'd like a law making all bathhouses illegal? Because they do the same.

 

You are fine with judging others and imposing your views, great. I actually dislike that. I am for more freedom.

 

You and the right-wing Christian nut jobs are certain you are right, and others must be forced to comply with your wishes.

 

I like having lots of limits in place to stop people like you and Christian nut jobs from having your way.

 

If you don't want to be in a TIM production, don't star in one, if you don't want to enjoy one, don't buy one. But I'm happy you think you should have the right to stop me from enjoying them.

 

If your view wins, where does it end?

 

Would you be defending others who think your very behavior as a gay or a gay hiring hookers damages the family, which is the fabric of our society ... the institution which most certainly is the most efficient way to prevent poverty and other social ills? But of course, I'm sure to you that's different and THOSE people shouldn't be allowed to judge YOU.

 

Is that not the definition of hypocrisy?

[seeker630]

Anyone else want to order a pizza?

[Epigonos]

Peperoni, sausage, mushrooms and anchovies please.

[gallahadesquire]

.…That's it, just had to throw in my two nickels.

 

Inflation?

 

Barbecue Chicken on mine, please.

[bigvalboy]

Inflation?

 

lol...my dad used to always say "two nickels" instead of "two cents"

[Guest verymarried]

I am no expert on any of this but I side with JoshChgo on this issue and appreciate his standing up for any efforts to prevent the spread of HIV.

[Tighty]

Anyone else want to order a pizza?

 

I fuckin hate pizza!

[bigvalboy]

Anyone else want to order a pizza?

 

I was ready yesterday...

[TruHart1]

Anyone else want to order a pizza?

 

Black olives, Italian sausage and extra cheese, please!!!

 

TruHart1:cool:

[instudiocity]

I was ready yesterday...

Methinks tighty doesn't get the subtext of ordering pizza.

[bigvalboy]

Methinks tighty doesn't get the subtext of ordering pizza.

 

Yeah I saw that, but I was too lazy to explain it..... The reality is that I thoroughly enjoyed the wide range of opinions. It made for an interesting read.

[JoshChgo]

Isn't there by now a more culturally advanced and historically mature way of personally dismissing, or removing ones-self or at least avoiding all together a difficult and challenging life, and social issue, which touches us all, other than a call to arms for pizza?

 

When you attempt to reduce the conversation to those who would hopefully benefit from it, by ordering pizza, you become exactly what your own personal history once inflicted upon you, then rose you up to fight for you, and continues to fight - for YOU - and for your path-way to a disease free life. You reward that with "toppings"

 

And that's a disgrace upon all of you to live with for all of your days ahead of you.

[Epigonos]

JoshChgo if you must preach to me please do not do so by ending your sentence with a preposition.

[JoshChgo]

JoshChgo if you must preach to me please do not do so by ending your sentence with a preposition.

 

Alas.

[+ deej]

Isn't there by now a more culturally advanced and historically mature way of personally dismissing, or removing ones-self or at least avoiding all together a difficult and challenging life, and social issue, which touches us all, other than a call to arms for pizza?

 

No. There isn't. It remains the best way to derail an internet flamer. The same rules that allow you to post here as you wish ensure that someone wishing to discuss pizza can do that as well. They do not deserve and are not guided by your disapproval.

 

And, really, what's not to like about extra cheese?

[inheat75]

Amen, deej.

 

Is it too late to add another pizza order?

[JoshChgo]

No. There isn't. It remains the best way to derail an internet flamer.

 

I'm certain your confusion resides within your own flame of superiority. I post only facts and hopefully useful points of view and historical revelance and importance.

 

The same rules that allow you to post here as you wish ensure that someone wishing to discuss pizza can do that as well. They do not deserve and are not guided by your disapproval.

 

Their disapproval is not what you are responding to here however is it? Your mission is seemingly somewhat different to me. Had you cared about any of the issues contained within this very long thread, and my thoughts, it seems reasonable that you would have responded before now - about this.

 

And, really, what's not to like about extra cheese?

 

I'll leave that up to others to answer.

[bigvalboy]

I'm certain your confusion resides within your own flame of superiority. I post only facts and hopefully useful points of view and historical revelance and importance.

 

 

 

Their disapproval is not what you are responding to here however is it? Your mission is seemingly somewhat different to me. Had you cared about any of the issues contained within this very long thread, and my thoughts, it seems reasonable that you would have responded before now - about this.

 

 

 

I'll leave that up to others to answer.

 

Buh bye.....