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There's a negative review today of an escort in Budapest. I travel to Europe twice a year due to family there and have hired in 5 different countries. Sadly, every single experience on the continent has been negative and several have been out and out rip offs. It doesn't matter how gorgeous they were in their photos or how pleasant they were on the phone, in person, they were scam artists at best, gangsters at worst. There is a completely different attitude towards escorting in Europe and they are particularly devious when catering to Americans - they see us as dollar signs and nothing more. I suspect that 99% of the European escorts are gay-for-pay and will only do the absolute minimum to make their fee. London seems to be a little better and I have had some fun times with escorts there but you really have to shop around. On the European continent, especially in the Baltic countries, it's buyer beware.

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There's a negative review today of an escort in Budapest. I travel to Europe twice a year due to family there and have hired in 5 different countries. Sadly, every single experience on the continent has been negative and several have been out and out rip offs. It doesn't matter how gorgeous they were in their photos or how pleasant they were on the phone, in person, they were scam artists at best, gangsters at worst. There is a completely different attitude towards escorting in Europe and they are particularly devious when catering to Americans - they see us as dollar signs and nothing more. I suspect that 99% of the European escorts are gay-for-pay and will only do the absolute minimum to make their fee. London seems to be a little better and I have had some fun times with escorts there but you really have to shop around. On the European continent, especially in the Baltic countries, it's buyer beware.

 

Does this apply to both Eastern and Western Europeans? And are those who travels to the US more legit?

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I can completely understand actor 61s comments but for members who have been here for well over a decade when I first began posting, my neighborhood then was ofen the clubs, bars and saunas of Europe (Western, Central and Eastern) and I rarely had a bad experience.

 

Back then, the best and most amazing guys were the Eastern European guys who had fled to the fleshpots of Western Europe (often seamen on ships out of Bulgaria or Albania that had landed for a few days in Hamburg or Rotterdam) who were both amazingly sexual as well as insatiable and would do just about anything for $50 (and that was not just an hour... often many hours and sometimes they'd stay overnight for that price). Then there were the South Asians that populated the sauna and bar scenes of Amsterdam (often working on the lowest rungs of the hospitality industry in hotels, and then working off all that pent-up aggression against capitalist pigs ordering them around like slaves with torrent sweat-filled nights in the saunas where they became quite dominant (not to mention all those supple Japanese gay tourists who clogged the dark labyrinths of the saunas to blow or be blown by anything that walked by - as they checked off their "done that!" box in their tour guide books). And then we had the invasion of men from South America with their darker more muscular bodies, amazing curved and uncut dicks and desire to please...

 

I always enjoyed kissing and often would return home in the early hours of the morning after a night out touring the bars, clubs and saunas with very sore and swollen lips from so much action, and my wallet was not empty.

 

I have met some amazing escorts in Budapest, Prague, Amsterdam, Cologne, Frankfort, Hamburg, Munich, Vienna, Athens, Moscow, Berlin, London, Barcelona and Paris. I can count on one hand the times I was fleeced, but only mildly. I would add that, I am very cautious and careful both with my money and with my personal things (one does not go cruising into these not spots carrying hundreds of dollars, a gold watch and nice jewelry!). I would often pick guys up in the bars and/or clubs after having a drink or two and watching them as they interacted with other guys there for the same purpose, watch their demeanor, their "swagger" if you will, and then would offer to buy the guys that I found attractive a drink and chat them up politely before making a proposal. IN the saunas it is quite a bit easier as there really never was money exchanged (hell you have a tiny towel and your locker key and that's it!) At most you might buy a guy some refreshment in the bar after some torrid session in a private cabin or the saunas.

 

I admit though that times have changed and more and more -- with the heavy exposure of questionable gay films pouring out of these same capitals -- a new breed of escorts has appeared. I find it more challenging to choose new and fresh faces that are not fakes, but still I am careful and patient, and often will not hire a guy who does not have decent and reputable reviews. I have never been threatened or treated badly by a guy, and hope that good luck continues.

 

In perspective my worst hook-ups happened on this side of the ocean, where I found MORE hustlers.

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I've been to several places in Europe. It is hard because there is no reliable review site and daddy's review is mostly about us escorts. The only place with many escorts is gayromeo. But it allows escorts to delete negative reviews, so their own guestbook is very unreliable. For example, I've met with a guy who had 72 entries on his s guestbook but he pulled out a knife to me. And most European places are filled with guys from Eastern EU or Latin America. So doesn't really matter if it is in the east or west. Of course more likely in in the east but not much. So it's like a random draw When you hire escorts in EU. Most of them know they will meet with you only once, no review sites, so they can be really an asshole if they want to.

In terms of guys who travel to the us, I hope it is less likely but they also know the escorts charge more in the us. So some try to raise their rate for american customers. In any case, I have had good and bad experiences, but I agree with you, it is a bit frustrating to hire an escort in EU. Now I try to think that the hassle is cancel led by the cheaper rate lol

 

If you really want some good experiences, Spain, Germany and UK would be your best bet.

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I've been to several places in Europe. It is hard because there is no reliable review site and daddy's review is mostly about US escorts.

 

I agree with your observation and one of the reasons for that is the language barrier. A vast majority of French, Italian, German, Spanish ... (fill in the blanks) clients don't feel comfortable writing and posting reviews in English. We need a site like Daddy's in each language.

 

GayRomeo remains one of the good sources to find an escort Europe-wide.

 

There is a completely different attitude towards escorting in Europe and they are particularly devious when catering to Americans - they see us as dollar signs and nothing more. I suspect that 99% of the European escorts are gay-for-pay and will only do the absolute minimum to make their fee.

 

I'm a little surprised to read about your experience with European escorts. Probably you could enlighten us with some particulars to avoid some ugly generalizations.

 

I've been working hard to break the image of your street "hustler". I've been traveling worldwide and love the US. Having many American friends and clients your remark sounds a bit close to home. (sigh)

 

Signed, The Eurotrash :rolleyes:

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I agree with your observation and one of the reasons for that is the language barrier. A vast majority of French, Italian, German, Spanish ... (fill in the blanks) clients don't feel comfortable writing and posting reviews in English. We need a site like Daddy's in each language.

 

GayRomeo remains one of the good sources to find an escort Europe-wide.[/color]

 

 

 

I'm a little surprised to read about your experience with European escorts. Probably you could enlighten us with some particulars to avoid some ugly generalizations.

 

I've been working hard to break the image of your street "hustler". I've been traveling worldwide and love the US. Having many American friends and clients your remark sounds a bit close to home. (sigh)

 

Signed, The Eurotrash :rolleyes:

 

You asked for some samples of my adventures in Europe, and here are a few: In Switzerland, an escort who advertised as a well hung total top turned out to be a drag queen with surgically manufactured breasts and a tiny dick. Not what I wanted at all, and I walked out. Another escort in Switzerland gave me a menu of prices - kissing, fucking, sucking, cumming would all be extra, and explained that the 200 Francs quoted in his ad was just the base charge for showing up. He also told me a tip would be expected in addition to the 200 Fr and any extras I had selected. I walked out. In Paris, all 3 escorts I saw asked for money up front (I did not comply), and not 1 of them got more than kinda sorta semi hard. In Spain, the guy who showed up at my hotel told me he was the twin brother of the escort I had talked to on the phone. The whole thing smelled like a scam - I'm not sure what type but it was really suspicious - and I sent him packing and put the chain on the door. In London, a really sweet guy came to my hotel and looked exactly like his pictures but all he wanted to do was talk. After visiting with him for about 15 minutes, I suggested that we get started, but he stayed in the armchair fully clothed, and said, "We've got time." So, we chatted some more and when I got bored and suggested that we get on the bed, his reply was "What's your rush?" By that time 45 minutes of the 60 minute appointment had gone by and I realized that absolutely nothing was going to happen, so I gave him cab fare and sent him home. Which is what he'd wanted all along, I think. In Rome, a hunky escort there told me "I have a glandular condition in my sex making parts" (exact quote) that prevented him from either getting erect or cumming but I could "worship" him as much as I liked. I walked out and he screamed at me from his window that I owed him money because "I am so beautiful" (another exact quote.) I couldn't stop laughing. I have used the expression "my sex making parts" ever since.

 

As I've said in another thread, I'm not ugly, hairy like a gorilla, morbidly obese, nasty, smelly, aggressive or particularly demanding. I'm a bottom very much into vanilla or boyfriend experiences, and I'm more than willing to pay the asking price for those services. It's never a problem here in the States - most escorts I've dealt with here have been honest and willing to do what's agreed upon. I've stopped seeking company when I'm in Europe. I just wait until I get home again to have fun.

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I have had wonderful experiences in London, Oslo, Berlin, Frankfurt, Barcelona, Vienna, Dublin, Budapest, and Durbin. I guess I have been very lucky, and have never had the experiences you describe. I found Gaydar to be especially helpful and telephone conversations probably weeded out those who might have done what has been described. I can only think of one or two situations that were mildly negative, and ironically one of them was a guy from the US who was the guest of a client when they were visiting Paris.

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GayRomeo remains one of the good sources to find an escort Europe-wide.[/color]

 

 

I've been working hard to break the image of your street "hustler". I've been traveling worldwide and love the US. Having many American friends and clients your remark sounds a bit close to home. (sigh)

 

Signed, The Eurotrash :rolleyes:

 

Steven! You are as far removed from Eurotrash as George Clooney is from those redneck stars of Duck Dynasty! LOL You are certainly no street “hustler.” Every time I have had the pleasure of your company, you have delivered on every anticipated pleasure and then some! We all know that the bad European experiences actor61 describes are available right here in the good old U.S. of A. too and there is usually no language barrier here unless the escort is part of the “Murray Hill Gang!”

 

TruHart1:cool:

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Does anyone know of a Twink or athletic bottom/versatile escort in Warsaw, Poland?

 

Have you checked out http://www.gayromeo.com? I plan to travel to Berlin, Warsaw, Krakow, Prague, Budapest, and Barcelona as soon as next week and have been in contact with guys

who have ads at this site. I've asked them to give me their fee rate, etc. All whom I've been interested have responded in an interesting and acceptable manner. Hope the experiences

are as great! I'm horny for some hard, hot European meat!

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I've been working hard to break the image of your street "hustler". I've been traveling worldwide and love the US. Having many American friends and clients your remark sounds a bit close to home. (sigh)

 

Signed, The Eurotrash[/color] :rolleyes:

 

Steven, you have been for me the one who sets the bar (high) for what one would expect from most European escorts. I have never met you personally but admired you from

your posts here, your interaction with many respected members, and the fact tat you really do exemplify a class of companion rare these days. Keep it up! (But need I say that??)

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Ironically, I've been noticing that reviews here for European Escorts have almost totally dried up, you see a few for London, but for example the Amsterdam postings haven't really changed for what seems like years, and I several of the ones still on the list aren't really active any longer. There used to be a steady trickle, if not exactly a flow, but lately not much at all.

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Perhaps because traveling over to Europe (for Americans) is not as cheap as it used to be, and hotel prices, meals etc.. have skyrocketed. When it comes to hiring on top of that, there are few client contributors here who can keep us up-to-date (and I see that also South America/Brazil does not have as many postings as before).

 

For the American escorts, that is good news -- clients are keeping their hard-earned cash in the country (helping the local economy like good citizens).

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Steven! You are as far removed from Eurotrash as George Clooney is from those redneck stars of Duck Dynasty! LOL You are certainly no street “hustler.” Every time I have had the pleasure of your company, you have delivered on every anticipated pleasure and then some!

 

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Another frustrating trip to Europe, escort-wise. Between the flakes, the guys who never responded (most) and the jerk who strung me along for a week and then said "oh, I had the dates mixed up, I have an overnight tonight...BULLSHIT" nothing worked out.

 

However, Thermos in Amsterdam was HOT on Friday afternoon, and I got what I wanted for free. Score!!

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Steven! You are as far removed from Eurotrash as George Clooney is from those redneck stars of Duck Dynasty! LOL You are certainly no street “hustler.” Every time I have had the pleasure of your company, you have delivered on every anticipated pleasure and then some!

 

+1

 

Steven, you have been for me the one who sets the bar (high) for what one would expect from most European escorts. I have never met you personally but admired you from your posts here, your interaction with many respected members, and the fact tat you really do exemplify a class of companion rare these days. Keep it up! (But need I say that??)

 

Thank you, TruHart, countryboywny and adriano! :)

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Another frustrating trip to Europe, escort-wise. Between the flakes, the guys who never responded (most) and the jerk who strung me along for a week and then said "oh, I had the dates mixed up, I have an overnight tonight...BULLSHIT" nothing worked out.

 

However, Thermos in Amsterdam was HOT on Friday afternoon, and I got what I wanted for free. Score!!

 

THERMOS is one of the bright lights in Europe - and as you sad, it is FREE [aside from the entry fee ;-) ]

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Louie D - the saunas in many places in Europe are very egalitarian and sybaritic. You pay the entry fee (which is really for a small changing locker, key, and serviceable towel. In some places that have the rooms or cabins, you may have to pay a bit more (like 10 euros) for one, but more often than not, it is "first-come/cum-first served" meaning if you get an empty cubicle you squat there until you get as much sex as you can take in one sitting.

 

There are cinema rooms, dark places, with chairs and lunge areas, where you sit and watch gay porn and stroke - and often someone will come and help you (helping hands). The steam rooms (some well-lit, others dark labyrinths) are places of very hot encounters of all shapes and sizes: yeah you might not want one or another guy stroking you but you simply move on - no one seems to get upset, and there are guys who are seeking older, bigger, bears or daddies all the time.

 

You might not be getting BelAmi styled muscled jocks but I have never gone to a sauna and returned home without finding someone for a few hours of unbridled sex.

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I don't understand FREE. You mean there are cute guys there who will be interested in someone, say age 60, and actually have sex with them with no cash involved? I can hardly believe it.

 

Saunas in Europe are no different than bath houses in the USA. If you think that saunas in Europe are very egalitarian, then you need to spend more time over here and take a closer look, especially at Thermos Amsterdam. Don't fool yourself. It's a dark and dreary place that unfortunately attracts crowds engaging in unsafe activities and your chances to catch a bug increase exponentially. If you're looking for a BelAmi styled hunk wanting to meet with an older gentleman, you'd better search elsewhere, not at Thermos. No rose-tinted glasses here.

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Yes... and check out Gaydar before you go... and I am sure that Mr. Draker will have some other suggestions too.

 

Just signed up or gaydar. Is commercial the escorts area? There are less guys than gayromeo. Am I missing something? How do you find guys there? Any advice would be aapreciated

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