Ironic timing, or insidious M4RN?

[Xander]

I cancelled my reoccurring M4RN subscription yesterday. No less than ten minutes after cancelling it I got a call from a guy who started off the conversation with "Hi Xander I saw your great ad on this website Men for rent now dot com, are you available next week in Atlanta?". I'm already used to the bullshit known as M4rn so I asked a quick probing question - "Oh that's great, are you visiting from out of town?" He told me no - he lives in Atlanta. Well that's strange, because a trace on the phone number shows that its a landline very far away from Georgia.

 

So - what do you guys think? M4RN trying to pull another stunt on us?

 

If you cancel your ad, try doing it during normal business hours and see if you get a strangely-timed call from a potential client.

 

Its really just best to just put the money in more advertising supporting great companies like Rentmen... a place that really supports its escorts.

[SmallTownJohn]

Stunt. My ad lapsed once and within an hour I had a client request waiting. No actual appointment ever came from it

[JoeyBryant]

if that's true...that'd be crazy.

 

I always get the "YOU HAVE A NEW MESSAGE WAITING, PAY NOW TO SEE WHO IT IS WHO MESSAGED YOU AFTER YOUR AD EXPIRED RATHER THAN THE WHOLE MONTH YOU WERE ADVERTISING"

 

I have nothing against rentmen and I still think they are great, but as of now I'm still waiting to get a client from there. Maybe I need to put up a video or something, I find myself editing my ad only to get distracted by a video upload and ooops, there goes my load. If clients are doing the same thing, maybe they're busting nuts before they can even pick up the phone. Hopefully it's not as easy for them as it is for me. When I'm alone, I can barely get thru a full minute of watching porn.

[Mikebiz]

Hey Xander - thanks for the kinds words in support of RentMen. (I am going against my better judgement to jump in and promote RM because it may seem to many as disingenuous and self serving. Self serving maybe - but hear me out.)

 

And then there were three. RB, M4RN and RM. Like GM, Ford, Chrysler. ....Choice. Markets. Style. Design. Service. Value. All very different. Competition is good for this and any niche, it keeps it evolving.

 

The basis of this thread is another Escort, Xander, choosing to not advertise on one of these three. A few days ago Ace. Because change comes hard and long in this small niche. Everyone has their favorites, their comfort zone, habits.

 

But service, product and value are king in any business.

 

We are the first ones to advocate advertising on several venues to hit all markets they serve best. M4RN will still be here as they do serve unique markets. RB does a great job for many of you. That does not mean that other worthy competitors will not rise in market share over time. (Joey, sorry this past month is slow from us, we're growing there but not hot YET and your ad is free next month btw. Kiss from us)

 

In Ace’s thread “corndog” and “seeker630” said Escorts and Clients need to LEAD if change is to occur. You could not be more correct that Escorts and Clients have to lead the way. So.... consider RentMen filling the gap more. we are: 1/2 the price for escort membership. 3 Free travel cities. Unlimited pics, videos and escort profile text. Offering Client profiles with your own RentMen email address to keep your life private. Focus is on fast customer service and community. Full service Mobile version. Links in Escort profiles to Daddysreviews. SEO in place. Site continually updated and features added. Personal blogs. Escort owned and operated. Dual server locations for more up-time. Our new ads have promo codes. Spends 40%+ on marketing and yet…. is slow to crack the ceiling and conversions still - because change comes hard in this small niche, everyone has their favorites and perceptions of each competitor.

 

Yes, chicken and egg someone said. Its both throwing community support behind a business that many say is the best or better model and continuing to grow our marketing as revenue increases. With continued Escort and Client community support RentMen will continue to grow as we have for 5+ years now. Without it others being first to market with much deeper pockets, well known brand names for 17+ years will continue to gouge and disappoint some.

 

Our team pledges that RM WILL continue to market itself, will continue to give many, many Forum members here and all the others we’ve attracted excellent service, product and value. We are here for the long term. Help us help you, we listen. The 8 of us on the team really enjoy serving every one of you, every day.

 

Mike, Jay, Nicky, Ludmil, Chrissie, Ilian, Julian and Mario

[+ Gar1eth]

Rentmen Opening Page

 

Hey Xander - thanks for the kinds words in support of RentMen. (I am going against my better judgement to jump in and promote RM because it may seem to many as disingenuous and self serving. Self serving maybe - but hear me out.)

 

And then there were three. RB, M4RN and RM. Like GM, Ford, Chrysler. ....Choice. Markets. Style. Design. Service. Value. All very different. Competition is good for this and any niche, it keeps it evolving.

 

The basis of this thread is another Escort, Xander, choosing to not advertise on one of these three. A few days ago Ace. Because change comes hard and long in this small niche. Everyone has their favorites, their comfort zone, habits.

 

But service, product and value are king in any business.

 

We are the first ones to advocate advertising on several venues to hit all markets they serve best. M4RN will still be here as they do serve unique markets. RB does a great job for many of you. That does not mean that other worthy competitors will not rise in market share over time. (Joey, sorry this past month is slow from us, we're growing there but not hot YET and your ad is free next month btw. Kiss from us)

 

In Ace’s thread “corndog” and “seeker630” said Escorts and Clients need to LEAD if change is to occur. You could not be more correct that Escorts and Clients have to lead the way. So.... consider RentMen filling the gap more. we are: 1/2 the price for escort membership. 3 Free travel cities. Unlimited pics, videos and escort profile text. Offering Client profiles with your own RentMen email address to keep your life private. Focus is on fast customer service and community. Full service Mobile version. Links in Escort profiles to Daddysreviews. SEO in place. Site continually updated and features added. Personal blogs. Escort owned and operated. Dual server locations for more up-time. Our new ads have promo codes. Spends 40%+ on marketing and yet…. is slow to crack the ceiling and conversions still - because change comes hard in this small niche, everyone has their favorites and perceptions of each competitor.

 

Yes, chicken and egg someone said. Its both throwing community support behind a business that many say is the best or better model and continuing to grow our marketing as revenue increases. With continued Escort and Client community support RentMen will continue to grow as we have for 5+ years now. Without it others being first to market with much deeper pockets, well known brand names for 17+ years will continue to gouge and disappoint some.

 

Our team pledges that RM WILL continue to market itself, will continue to give many, many Forum members here and all the others we’ve attracted excellent service, product and value. We are here for the long term. Help us help you, we listen. The 8 of us on the team really enjoy serving every one of you, every day.

 

Mike, Jay, Nicky, Ludmil, Chrissie, Ilian, Julian and Mario

 

I like Rentmen--I wish there were more escorts on it. One of the things I really like--is a two edged sword. I really like the guys you have rotating on your opening page--but as I never see them advertising on the site itself, I guess they are just physique models which is disappointing. Is there anyway you could feature the escorts on the site rather than make us wish for the models who won't ever be available?

 

Thanks,

 

Gman

 

PS: Would it also be possible to get rid of the expired ads? The only reason it's not as annoying on Rentmen as it is on M4RN is because you don't have as many of them as they do. That's one advantage Rentboy has over both of you. If there is an ad Rentboy's site, usually it's current.

 

Gman

[Mikebiz]

Hi Gman - all the guys on the front page are on the site - Featured Guys (Gold ads), New Guys and Online Now are the tabs - if you click on their pictures you are brought to their profiles.

 

They are displayed according to what area you have in the main search on the top right of the page. If you have it set to 'Show All Locations' your home page is populated by random guys across the globe. We don't feature eye candy on the home page that you can't contact to entice you. Tell me if you find otherwise.

 

We do remove expired ads too, when they expire they fall off. Heck - if you are finding expired ads active on the site send me a PM and we'll deal with it immediately!

[instudiocity]

Hey Xander - thanks for the kinds words in support of RentMen. (I am going against my better judgement to jump in and promote RM because it may seem to many as disingenuous and self serving. Self serving maybe - but hear me out.)

 

And then there were three. RB, M4RN and RM. Like GM, Ford, Chrysler. ....Choice. Markets. Style. Design. Service. Value. All very different. Competition is good for this and any niche, it keeps it evolving.

 

The basis of this thread is another Escort, Xander, choosing to not advertise on one of these three. A few days ago Ace. Because change comes hard and long in this small niche. Everyone has their favorites, their comfort zone, habits.

 

But service, product and value are king in any business.

 

We are the first ones to advocate advertising on several venues to hit all markets they serve best. M4RN will still be here as they do serve unique markets. RB does a great job for many of you. That does not mean that other worthy competitors will not rise in market share over time. (Joey, sorry this past month is slow from us, we're growing there but not hot YET and your ad is free next month btw. Kiss from us)

 

In Ace’s thread “corndog” and “seeker630” said Escorts and Clients need to LEAD if change is to occur. You could not be more correct that Escorts and Clients have to lead the way. So.... consider RentMen filling the gap more. we are: 1/2 the price for escort membership. 3 Free travel cities. Unlimited pics, videos and escort profile text. Offering Client profiles with your own RentMen email address to keep your life private. Focus is on fast customer service and community. Full service Mobile version. Links in Escort profiles to Daddysreviews. SEO in place. Site continually updated and features added. Personal blogs. Escort owned and operated. Dual server locations for more up-time. Our new ads have promo codes. Spends 40%+ on marketing and yet…. is slow to crack the ceiling and conversions still - because change comes hard in this small niche, everyone has their favorites and perceptions of each competitor.

 

Yes, chicken and egg someone said. Its both throwing community support behind a business that many say is the best or better model and continuing to grow our marketing as revenue increases. With continued Escort and Client community support RentMen will continue to grow as we have for 5+ years now. Without it others being first to market with much deeper pockets, well known brand names for 17+ years will continue to gouge and disappoint some.

 

Our team pledges that RM WILL continue to market itself, will continue to give many, many Forum members here and all the others we’ve attracted excellent service, product and value. We are here for the long term. Help us help you, we listen. The 8 of us on the team really enjoy serving every one of you, every day.

 

Mike, Jay, Nicky, Ludmil, Chrissie, Ilian, Julian and Mario

You're doing marketing very well.

 

Why not email every M4RN escort a 3 months free coupon and put those bitches down?

[JoeyBryant]

You're doing marketing very well.

 

Why not email every M4RN escort a 3 months free coupon and put those bitches down?

 

careful now. Similar to the insurance company 'progressive' men4rent can be 'aggressive' and probably won't take kindly to that. When sending emails, they go thru men4rent's website which they can see whom emailed who. They've also been known to block user's email accounts, permanently. So I can't imagine what they'd do with a competitor's email. The spamster's like African/British/Canadian/German engineers get by because they can simply send an email with just their yahoo name to avoid detection. Which is why I stopped responding to emails with no phone number/description.

[Xander]

careful now. Similar to the insurance company 'progressive' men4rent can be 'aggressive' and probably won't take kindly to that. When sending emails, they go thru men4rent's website which they can see whom emailed who. They've also been known to block user's email accounts, permanently. So I can't imagine what they'd do with a competitor's email. The spamster's like African/British/Canadian/German engineers get by because they can simply send an email with just their yahoo name to avoid detection. Which is why I stopped responding to emails with no phone number/description.

 

It'd be much easier to just hack their email database ;]..

[+ Gar1eth]

It'd be much easier to just hack their email database ;]..

 

On a different subject--have fun in NYC. I wish there was a Hookie award for cutest Red Head because you'd win for sure--have been enamored of that picture Rentmen sent out when you were escort of the week.

 

Gman

[+ Ace]

I'm glad to be rid of M4RN & a part of Rentmen...(REMEMBER: slow & steady wins the race!).

I'll PROUDLY be wearing my Rentmen shirt in Palm Springs this weekend!

[Mikebiz]

I'll PROUDLY be wearing my Rentmen shirt in Palm Springs this weekend!

 

Love you back baby! Safe trip and say hello to everyone in PS... u lucky guys, what fun in the sun!

[Michael Wayne]

I love the videos rentmen allows. My clients like to see me in action first and the solo vids do that. http://www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop

[MrBigTL]

I am sure they are just trying to get you back as a client Xander. I have never had good results from their website from a client's viewpoint, as they have so many old ads and the way travel ads show up, you can't tell if the escort is actually living in your city or just listing your city as a possibility.

[scottspearsxxx]

I switch back and forth between Rentboy.com and M4RN.com. I love the fact that you can stay online for hours and hours on M4RN.com and have been with them for awhile and a lot of clients look for me on there. I switch to Rentboy.com as they have a bigger client base and I can get more clients from them, so it is a toss up sometimes. I did not like it when M4RN.com took my rates off the system and now they only list you as $ thru $$$$. Rentboy you can put your rates right on there for people to see. Although the economy seems to be getting better, most clients want to know what your rates are before getting in contact with you. I try to accomodate for that. Am going back to Rentboy.com in April, so check me out at http://www.rentboy.com/peachfuzz Thanks, Scott

[MikeCruiseNYC]

Was commiserating with an escort-pal today about how we haven't gotten any serious work from m4rn in months. If they do a market call post-break-up they should at least call to make an appointment and then show up and pay us! There oughta be a law...

[JoeyBryant]

Was commiserating with an escort-pal today about how we haven't gotten any serious work from m4rn in months. If they do a market call post-break-up they should at least call to make an appointment and then show up and pay us! There oughta be a law...

 

Good (as in bad), so it's not just me. However...men4rent has been helping during travels but not much locally. Men4rent used to be it, if they don't get their act together they are going to end up like gay.com. Used to be top of the charts, but now just a bunch of profiles that are just there for decoration. Speaking of which, think I'll check out gay.com again and see what's happening. Been a couple years.

[MikeCruiseNYC]

OMG you guyz!?!?!

Ever since I logged this complaint here on Daddys I've gotten a bunch of "member is interested" notices from m4rn. I've responded to a few of them and zero calls or response from these apparently false, bot generated "clients". This is the sort of crap that makes a happy hooker go postal. Other than that, I love my job!