Plugging your favorite escort, or just one you like

[milkman]

Comment from VaHawk on another thread:

 

>BUMP!!!! This guy should be #1 on the queue, as he is THE

>BEST, BAR NONE!

 

Question to VaHawk:

 

Just curious: Why do you consider that it is OK for you to make comments like this about this escort and others (Bastian, for example), but not for fans of some other escorts to get enthusiastic or even just to post information about the escorts that they like (Bruno, for example)?

[VaHawk]

First off, thank you for taking your question to the proper forum.

 

I HAVE NEVER lambasted Bruno, only those who sing his praises on nothing other than PR. If they have been with him and want to "plug him" then fine, and, if not, then their opinions hold water as well as a sieve!

 

I have been with Benjamin, and as such, feel I have a right to express my feelings about him! I have never been with Bruno and as such, have never trashed him, nor sung his praises.

 

I have expressed my opinion (and note I said opinion) several times, that if you have not been with the escort, you really can not attest either positively or negatively about that escort! Why is this such a difficult concept for people to grasp?

 

As far as your statement about my support of other escorts, you are way off base. I never sang the praises of Bastian, as I only protested his character assasination by others who judge on the basis of a picture alone.

 

Any other escort, I have commented on positively, I believe I stated that my comments were an opinion only based on my observations of his posts/reviews. I don't recall any negative opinings on my part about any escort that I have not been with.

[milkman]

>First off, thank you for taking your question to the proper forum.

 

You're welcome. But no thanks is necessary.

It was an impulse on the other thread, generated by seeing your post, and should be here.

 

>I HAVE NEVER lambasted Bruno, only those who sing his praises

>on nothing other than PR. If they have been with him and want

>to "plug him" then fine, and, if not, then their opinions

>hold water as well as a sieve!

 

I didn't say you lambasted or criticized Bruno. I asked why you thought it was not OK for his fans to post about him the way you post about the escorts that you like. Please don't misrepresent my words. And why are you so defensive about it? Is there more here than meets the eye?

 

On the Bruno thread(s) you were not flaming at posts containing opinions of his services, because there weren't any; the posts there contained information and the personal reactions of various posters. And I didn't hear anybody "sing his praises on nothing other than PR."

 

>I have been with Benjamin, and as such, feel I have a right to

>express my feelings about him! I have never been with Bruno

>and as such, have never trashed him, nor sung his praises.

 

I repeat that I did not say anything about your comments about Bruno. I referred ONLY to your comments about the propriety of posting by other posters.

 

>I have expressed my opinion (and note I said opinion) several

>times, that if you have not been with the escort, you really

>can not attest either positively or negatively about that

>escort! Why is this such a difficult concept for people to grasp?

 

That's not difficult and I agree. And I imagine that anyone would agree. HOWEVER, many perfectly legitimate comments about escorts, including MANY of the ones on the Bruno threads that you were objecting to, are not attestations about the escort. They are in the nature of "hubba-hubba," panting, or otherwise expressing the POSTER's reaction to something about the escort, like a picture. Those are ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE here, have nothing to do with what you said above, and are not an attestation of the escort's services. And IMHO you had no call to object to them on the Bruno threads.

 

>As far as your statement about my support of other escorts,

>you are way off base. I never sang the praises of Bastian, as

>I only protested his character assasination by others who

>judge on the basis of a picture alone.

 

That's not what I remember reading on that thread. But it, like some others recently, seems to have disappeared, so we will not be able to check it out.

 

>Any other escort, I have commented on positively, I believe I

>stated that my comments were an opinion only based on my

>observations of his posts/reviews. I don't recall any

>negative opinings on my part about any escort that I have not been with.

 

I did not mention negative or positive, and did not restrict my question to either type. And again I am not saying anything about your comments on any escorts. This is the third time you have gotten defensive about that in this post.

 

 

In posting this here I meant it not just as a comment or question to you, but also as a way to start a discussion on this topic. And I meant it to be a general discussion, not just about the Bruno threads. That's why I said "for example Bastian" and "for example Bruno". There has been a lot of flaming here recently not about escorts or issues, but rather about the fact that someone chose to make a post.

 

That kind of flaming is ridiculous. Message boards exist for the purpose of people writing on them. And on a board like this one almost anything is fair game. HooBoy and the moderators are here, they monitor the posts to see that they conform to the rather liberal rules, and they remove anything that shouldn't be here. We have seen that happen more than once. But then some self-appointed censors come along, start inventing "rules" and interpreting the existing rules in their own peculiar way, and tell people what they can and can't post. (And then they sometimes turn around and do exactly what they criticize others for doing.)

 

All posts should be welcome here, whether attestations of escorts' services or personal reactions to escorts, whether requests for information or providing information, whether foolish or wise, and so on. Criticize a post for its content (factual or otherwise), tone, or the like, but don't criticize it for its existence.

[Guest YFSC]

> If they have been with him and want

>to "plug him" then fine, and, if not, then their opinions

>hold water as well as a sieve!

 

>I have expressed my opinion (and note I said opinion) several

>times, that if you have not been with the escort, you really

>can not attest either positively or negatively about that

>escort! Why is this such a difficult concept for people to grasp?

>

>As far as your statement about my support of other escorts,

>you are way off base. I never sang the praises of Bastian, as

>I only protested his character assasination by others who

>judge on the basis of a picture alone.

>

>Any other escort, I have commented on positively, I believe I

>stated that my comments were an opinion only based on my

>observations of his posts/reviews.

 

Well, let's go to the cybertape............

 

From the thread about, gee, Bastian (the guy with the Confederate flag), that VaHawk "never sang the praises of".

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VaHawk Fri Mar-07-03 07:00 PM

Member since Oct 26th 2002

732 posts, 10 votes, 16 points

 

#388, "RE: MidWestern Escort"

In response to Reply #1

 

He is real hottie ain't he? You did notice his tattoo, right? Plus the whole thing with the Confederate flag is that he stated he is into "Civil War history not hate" and calls himself a "rebel". I wouldn't read anything more sinister than that into his using that flag.

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VaHawk Fri Mar-07-03 10:49 PM

Member since Oct 26th 2002

732 posts, 10 votes, 16 points

 

#395, "RE: MidWestern Escort"

In response to Reply #7

 

Didn't say we had a date did I? Just firing the opening salvo as how else does it get started? BTW, I do get rather "hot and bothered" by that "ruffian" look, but that's just me and no apologies/explanations needed nor offered. Seriously though can't you just picture an evening at Chuck E. Cheese's maybe?

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The comments about Bruno were even more innocuous than these, or were outright attacking him, but they still got an objection from VaHawk. The original post was from Bruno himself saying only that he had new pics and a new email address and info on his site about when he was coming here. The original post about Bastian was from Bastian himself, explicitly advertising his availability for overnights and weekends, inviting people to check out his review, also his pics and website, and inviting people to send him email.

 

VaHawk from the thread about Bruno:

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VaHawk Thu Feb-27-03 06:55 PM

Member since Oct 26th 2002

732 posts, 10 votes, 16 points

 

#32215, "RE: GOOD NEWS OF BRUNO GAUCHO!!!!!"

In response to Reply #5

 

As much money as he makes escorting, and he can't afford to get a lap top?

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Since we already know that VaHawk does not approve of comments that are not based on personal knowledge, we must assume that he has personal knowledge of Bruno's finances. Perhaps he is Bruno's accountant.

 

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VaHawk Fri Feb-28-03 01:18 AM

Member since Oct 26th 2002

732 posts, 10 votes, 16 points

 

#32237, "RE: GOOD NEWS OF BRUNO GAUCHO!!!!!"

In response to Reply #9

 

No U STUFF IT!!!! Always, some self-serving, self-promoting, "kiss the ass of an escort I've never been with but damn he's cute", jerk out there!!!

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Apparently according to VaHawk you can't say an escort is cute if you haven't been with him. But apparently it's OK for him and others on the Bastian thread to say things like that about Bastian without knowing him personally. I guess it depends on whether or not VaHawk is turned on by the escort.

 

Bruno posts that he has new pics and contact info and he gets slammed by VaHawk for advertising. And accused of affronting other escorts.

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VaHawk Thu Feb-27-03 07:31 PM

Member since Oct 26th 2002

732 posts, 10 votes, 16 points

 

#32217, "RE: GOOD NEWS OF BRUNO GAUCHO!!!!!"

In response to Reply #4

 

I know one of the functions of this site is to allow escorts to advertise, but if their post is an advertisement only then it should be in the escort's travels section where it belongs, not in the other forums. IMO, to do otherwise, is an affront to those escorts here who post intelligent, helpful, informative posts relevant to the forums. These are the types of escorts I like, those with a brain, not just a dick/ass.

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Bastian posts a pretty blatant advertisement and VaHawk wets his pussy, fawning over "an escort he's never been with but damn he's cute". (I already gave two VaHawk posts about Bastian and won't repeat them here.) But it's apparently "OK" in VaHawk's eyes because Bruno doesn't turn him on and Bastian does, so it doesn't violate the rule. :+

[Guest YFSC]

>That's not what I remember reading on that thread. But it,

>like some others recently, seems to have disappeared, so we

>will not be able to check it out.

 

Well not exactly.

It hasn't disappeared. It's just in a different forum. See below.

[axebahia]

I don't think that you have to be with an escort to comment intelligently about him provided you can point to other surrounding circumstances. In the case of Bastian, he knowingly chose to launch his own ad campaign here wrapped in a confederate flag. That said a lot about him and his subsequent defense of the same said more.

 

I also think that just as an escort's responses to reviews often reveal points good and bad about their personality and attitude so too do responses here from escorts like Bruno. The same is true about Ben in San Antonio, Franco or Rick. They are each class acts and their posts I think show clearly their wit, intelligence and sexiness.

 

Furthermore, in this on-line community we get to know a lot about individual posters based on what and how they say and write, and I think to the extent they embrace certain escorts in certain ways, it is fair to infer some things about the escorts too uness the escort distances himself from them. I just can't imagine that I would be attracted to Bruno if he also tends to attract the kind of fawning desperate kinds of posts that we see here so regularly. (And as I often say, my own experience with a similar over-hyped escort was a disapointment. Now when I re-read his prior reviews, I realize that they said more about the authors than the escort.)

 

As for positive reviews or comments, as I often say, I find them so idiosyncratic to be of any use to me as a guide to whether I will find an escort attractive etc. However, negative comments and reviews almost always show red flag trends and reveal escorts to be avoided.

 

The bottom line is that I think that it's ok to see the plugs for particular escorts, as long as we can also take the butt plugs out of the assholes who post them from time to time.