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Not that many years ago, every gay male was classified as a TOP or BOTTOM, and then we added a group that many described themselves as--VERSATILE. Fine, but now we have 7 groups and I'm starting to get confused what they REALLY mean:

 

BOTTOM------Bottom/versatile *

VERSATILE--------Versatile/Bottom * Versatile/Top **

TOP----------Top/Versatile **

 

Anybody have a clarification of this?

 

This is a question for both hiring guys and working guys. Would be nice to know what we can both expect

 

Boston Bill

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Not that many years ago, every gay male was classified as a TOP or BOTTOM, and then we added a group that many described themselves as--VERSATILE. Fine, but now we have 7 groups and I'm starting to get confused what they REALLY mean:

 

BOTTOM------Bottom/versatile *

VERSATILE--------Versatile/Bottom * Versatile/Top **

TOP----------Top/Versatile **

 

Anybody have a clarification of this?

 

This is a question for both hiring guys and working guys. Would be nice to know what we can both expect

 

Boston Bill

 

In my opinion (based on experiece and previous discussions), there are no reliable, 'standard' definitions for 'top/versatile', etc. - you should always ASK the escort what HE means by it.

 

I have met 'top/versatile' guys who were willing to bottom (with varying degrees of enthusiasm), and others who would give head but not bottom.

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In my opinion (based on experiece and previous discussions), there are no reliable, 'standard' definitions for 'top/versatile', etc. - you should always ASK the escort what HE means by it.

 

Yep.

 

At times like this, I miss Franco DiSantis. In his definition, anyone who isn't strictly a top is a bottom. Of course, some of our less-enlightened advertisers think "versatile" means fucking in many positions. The only way to know for sure is to ask. (Or try! :cool:)

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Would be nice to know what we can both expect.

 

Hey Bill,

 

My personal opinion about this, whether you are hiring an escort, meeting with a client or having a hook up, is that there is only one thing you should expect: you are going to meet a complex human being, with many personal preferences but who is also vulnerable to many different elements that may alter his present preference, desire, availability or range.

 

I find that more and more the top-bottom paradigm is becoming somewhat antiquated as more people are willing to honour a broader range of their appetites, and as with all appetites, cravings and the ability to digest some things changes from time to time.

 

I for one I don't classify myself as a versatile. Sometimes I am an aggressive, demanding, controlling top, sometimes I am a greedy, enduring, grateful bottom, sometimes I am both, sometimes I switch in the middle of the session, and in the top-bottom paradigm this doesn't make sense. I have so often been told: "I never thought a vers guy could fuck like this!" But one has to check a box, so I will check the vers one.

 

When meeting a sexual partner I think we have to be open minded and aware that regardless of how well planned out our session may be in our mind, we must allow for the present moment to give us the experience it will. We may communicate, politely ask, suggest, try to get things to certain places, but in the end I believe that the success of a session for me will be determined by my ability to accept and celebrate what is.

 

"Yeah, but I am paying for it!" Many will say, to which I will have to respond that you are not. You are paying for the space and time to be in touch with a human being, in the hope that -if you both correctly assessed your mutual compatibility, things will result in a satisfactory experience for both. But in the end, we must remember we are dealing with human beings.

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I think versatile means a guy who is not closed minded sexually and who is willing to try something new or different to please the guy he is with. For years I was a strict top meaning I only fucked guys and never got fucked. I advertised that way. It did not mean I did not like to give head . I always was the kind of top that wanted my bottom pleased which means do not ignore their cock so I was not selfish. Now...there are many who feel that a top is a guy that dresses in leather, ties people up and pees all over them. I always had to clarify that what i mean by top is that I want you feel good with me -not abused or tortured or hurt. I want my cock to feel so good deep inside my bottom that he cums harder, longer than ever before. I go slow and tender at first with alot of foreplay to make it feel good. Now in more recent times I have discovered the joy of bottoming (safely of course) and so while I remain mostly a top I am open and willing to try and please my client in other ways. It is rare (very rare) that I get that request since my dick is so big but it does happen and I gotta tell yall it FEELS AMAZING!!!!! http://www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop or http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

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I think versatile means a guy who is not closed minded sexually and who is willing to try something new or different to please the guy he is with. For years I was a strict top meaning I only fucked guys and never got fucked. I advertised that way. It did not mean I did not like to give head . I always was the kind of top that wanted my bottom pleased which means do not ignore their cock so I was not selfish. Now...there are many who feel that a top is a guy that dresses in leather, ties people up and pees all over them. I always had to clarify that what i mean by top is that I want you feel good with me -not abused or tortured or hurt. I want my cock to feel so good deep inside my bottom that he cums harder, longer than ever before. I go slow and tender at first with alot of foreplay to make it feel good. Now in more recent times I have discovered the joy of bottoming (safely of course) and so while I remain mostly a top I am open and willing to try and please my client in other ways. It is rare (very rare) that I get that request since my dick is so big but it does happen and I gotta tell yall it FEELS AMAZING!!!!! http://www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop or http://www.rentboy.com/mikey9nola1

 

I guess your response is just another irrefutable argument for the "you better ask" case.

 

Yes, I have had a couple guys who are dumbfounded when they arrive and they don't see whips and chains. "But I wanted to be topped!" They complain, meaning they wanted a S/M domination scene. When I tell them that I always assume that topping means anal insertion they say "no, that's fucking!". I find that very interesting.

 

The only way of communicating clearly is, (duh!) to communicate clearly. Avoid all sorts of euphemisms, codes, veiled references, lingo, as they are never precise and they are open for interpretation. If you want to ensure that you and your partner are compatible, ask.

 

Thank DD. Thor and I had a riot in Chicago and can't wait to be back. Be well, take good care of yourself and hope to connect soon.

 

Big hug!

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