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[Guest ncm2169]

Knowing how much this place hates gossip ;-) , I should probably post this elsewhere but here goes. Anybody want to comment on the current tabloid front page allegation that TC recently "settled a gay lawsuit"?? :*

 

I'd have bought the issue when I saw it in the proverbial supermarket line, but I'd rather be caught dead than be found with one of those in my possession. x(

[Guest hotforjocks]

>Knowing how much this place hates gossip ;-) ,. . .

 

I have never found this venue to be particularly gossip-oriented, and I am simply baffled that you have insinuated otherwise. I believe yo owe the proprieter of this forum, and its participants, a sincere and humble apology, but I doubt one will be forthcoming.

 

> I should probably post this elsewhere. . . .

 

Indeed.

 

> but here goes.

 

TRANSLATION: "I know what I'm doing is wrong-headed and inconsiderate, but ultimately, I act in accordance with my basest and most self-regarding instincts, which means I will do it anyway."

 

>Anybody want to

>comment on the current tabloid front page allegation that TC

>recently "settled a gay lawsuit"??

 

Not only have you skewered this previously dignified Board with gossipy trash, but you did so in a way that was so vague and devoid of substance that one could not even reply to such filth even if one were so inclined. Settled which lawsuit? On what terms? What were the allegations which catalyzed the lawsuit? How can you expect to begin a conversation by puking out such worthless ambiguities?

 

>I'd have bought the issue when I saw it in the proverbial

>supermarket line, but I'd rather be caught dead than be

>found with one of those in my possession. x(

 

How sad that you are blocked from choosing what you want to do in your life due to a fear that others may perceive that you have done it and judge you negatively for it. This is how a slave lives, not a free man. A free man would have said: "I care not for the judgments of others, for I am free" and purchased the periodical. You slinked out of the store, having been intimidated from doing what you wish at your core you could have done.

 

That makes you sadder, and far more contemptible, than those who are courageous enough to purchase these journals when they CHOOSE.

[Guest fukamarine]

>Knowing how much this place hates gossip ;-) , I should

>probably post this elsewhere but here goes. Anybody want to

>comment on the current tabloid front page allegation that TC

>recently "settled a gay lawsuit"?? :*

 

My Prediction:

 

There will come the day - it may take years, but trust me, it will come - when TC is outed and exposed for the homo he is. The sad thing is that he is terrified of standing up and admiting the truth about his sexual orientation. I don't think it would affect his box office appeal one iota. He could then happily co-habit with Matt Damon or whoever else he pleased, rather than hiding behind the smokescreen of whatever big tits are the "boosum de jour"

 

fukamarine

[Guest ncm2169]

Nice to see we're on the same page finally, man. ;-) Did you ever read the Playboy interview with Mimi Rogers shortly after they divorced (was it back in, say, '87?) ? She made this incredibly subtle yet very telling reference to their situation as she saw it (to paraphrase it): "Our music wasn't in sync. He wanted to take his instrument and become a monk. My instrument?...it needed tuning." :+

 

Damn! Understatement RULES!! }>

[Guest ncm2169]

Truth be told, your not inconsiderable wit might have been of use in my, "Hooboy - The IPO" topic :7 , but I ought not confuse caustic humor with punnery ;-) . The former is practiced indiscriminately x( , the latter requires a modicum of skill. }>

 

Next Round? I'm always available. :+

[Flower]

>My Prediction:

>

>There will come the day - it may take years, but trust me,

>it will come - when TC is outed and exposed for the homo he

>is. The sad thing is that he is terrified of standing up and

>admiting the truth about his sexual orientation.

>fukamarine

 

Am I missing something here? I have NEVER seen anything to indicate that TC is gay--either on this board or anywhere else, other than the useless kind of speculation that is in these posts. Fuckamarine--I am NOT singling you out, btw--but many here are guilty of it.

 

I'd happily stand corrected if someone could demonstrate some semblance of evidence, but in lieu of that, it seems that many gay men are so desperate to find rich, famous and pretty ROLE models that they simply sink to the level of pure gossip and speculation as found here. You'al talk here as if it were your living room, but it isn't--it's a public forum, for all to read.

 

And what if TC were gay--what right do people here have to out him even if there were some evidence? It's not like he has gone on the attack against gays himself, in which case outing might be appropriate. He has not. As far as I know, he has done nothing but deny he is gay--how is that the business of anyone here?

 

The sad part and really damaging part of this type of idle gossip and "pseudo-outting", is that on a larger scale, it would certainly discourage many talented gay men from seeking any position that would bring them notoriety or publicity for fear of this kind of behavior by their fellow gay men who were either braver, had less to lose, or grew up in other circumstances that told them it was safe to come out sooner than later. I mean, isn't it a personal choice anymore as to when if ever to come out? When was that taken away from our famous gay brothers? I can see why homophobic str8s might want to out someone that was rich, famous and pretty, but why would a fellow gay man, who at some point in his life held on to the same secret in fear of outing?

 

On this board it is generally agreed (I think) that the rule here that prevents the identity of a client or escort from being revealed is a good rule and is abided by--yet just because someone is famous, rich and good looking, the corollaries to that rule go by the wayside. Outing to me is totally unjustified and horrific, except in special circumstances where the individual is outwardly attacking gays while being gay himself--very few if any other reasons justify it in my mind. But worse than outing, is what we are doing here--speculating, gossiping, and saying someone is gay without any factual evidence to back it up--basically a "smearing" of someone in the str8 world for no reason whatsoever, except for maybe the desperate desire to have a pretty, rich and famous movie star to point to and say--"look, he is one of us, so I guess we're OK after all."

 

This is simply more evidence that the gay man is his own worst enemy.

 

For shame :'(

 

Flower :*

[Guest ncm2169]

Two delicious observations about gossip and rules :9 , both paraphrased:

 

Alice Roosevelt Longworth: "If you have nothing good to say about anyone, come over here and sit by me and let's talk."

 

Katherine Hepburn: "If you play by all the rules, you miss all the fun." }>

[Guest fukamarine]

>>My Prediction:

>>

>>There will come the day - it may take years, but trust me,

>>it will come - when TC is outed and exposed for the homo he

>>is. The sad thing is that he is terrified of standing up and

>>admiting the truth about his sexual orientation.

>>fukamarine

>

> Am I missing something here? I have

>NEVER seen anything to indicate that TC is gay--either on

>this board or anywhere else, other than the useless kind of

>speculation that is in these posts.

 

YOU may not have seen anything - but rumors have been rife for years. Given you own personal circumstances, which you have appraised us of earlier, perhaps your exposure to this type of gossip is somewhat limited.

 

>Fuckamarine--I am NOT singling you out, btw--but many here are guilty of it.

 

Of course you're singling me out. I'm the one who made the statement so who else would you be referring to. But it doesn't bother me!

 

>And what if TC were gay--what right do people here have to

>out him even if there were some evidence? It's not like he

>has gone on the attack against gays himself, in which case

>outing might be appropriate. He has not. As far as I know,

>he has done nothing but deny he is gay

 

That's part of the speculation Flower. He doth protest FAR TO FUCKING MUCH. If he had no skeletons in his closet, he would laugh the rumors off but he goes bolistic and sues people for $10,000,000.

 

 

>how is that the business of anyone here?

 

Well if we all stuck to only talking about what was our business, it would be a pretty boring world. Over half the posts on this board about escorts, strictly speaking, could be classified as none of our business.

 

>The sad part and really damaging part of this type of idle

>gossip and "pseudo-outting", is that on a larger scale, it

>would certainly discourage many talented gay men from

>seeking any position that would bring them notoriety or

>publicity for fear of this kind of behavior by their fellow

>gay men who were either braver, had less to lose, or grew up

>in other circumstances that told them it was safe to come

>out sooner than later.

 

You think?

 

>I mean, isn't it a personal choice anymore as to when if ever to come out? When was that taken away from our famous gay brothers?

 

Our famous gay brothers, as you refer to them, are the target of the

present day media as are all other famous people, straight and gay whose lifestyles veer from what the Christian right have declared to be their "norm". Gary Condit didn't kill Sandra Levy but it didn't stop the media from outing him as to his sexual indiscretions. And Clinton's addiction to receiving blow jobs was certainly none of our business, but we spent over 40 million bucks looking into it.

 

The world has changed Flower. It ain't like it used to be. Get with the program.

 

>On this board it is generally agreed (I think) that the rule

>here that prevents the identity of a client or escort from

>being revealed is a good rule and is abided by--yet just

>because someone is famous, rich and good looking, the

>corollaries to that rule go by the wayside.

 

TC to the best of my knowledge is neither am escort or a client. So how do the rules of our message board apply to this situation?

 

>Outing to me is

>totally unjustified and horrific, except in special

>circumstances where the individual is outwardly attacking

>gays while being gay himself--very few if any other reasons

>justify it in my mind.

 

A mindset no doubt aided and abbeted by your own quasi-closet status.

 

>But worse than outing, is what we

>are doing here--speculating, gossiping, and saying someone

>is gay without any factual evidence to back it up--basically

>a "smearing" of someone in the str8 world for no reason

>whatsoever,

 

If you refer to it as "smearing" then you obviously view being gay as a reprehensible attribute, once again harking back to your own circumstances.

 

>except for maybe the desperate desire to have a

>pretty, rich and famous movie star to point to

 

This is the third time you have mentioned "pretty, rich and famous" What's with you on this thing. Isn't it the title of an old Jane Powell movie?

 

>This is simply more evidence that the gay man is his own

>worst enemy.

>

>For shame :'(

 

Flower - you're being "preachy" again. Tut Tut Tut

 

fukamarine

[Flower]

As usual fuckamarine, your responses lack even a scintilla of substance, and you have now even made invalid assumptions about me in the same speculative and irresponsible manner--but still no answers to the questions I asked. But then what would one expect from someone that defends the likes of kalifornia }>

 

While I felt the Clinton controversy was not justified to the extent it went on, at least he was an elected public official and employed by the citizens as a whole, and got caught with his hand in the cookie jar--unlike TC. But by your line of thinking, since TC protests too much, he is guilty as charged.

 

That's simply bullshit and you use it 'cause, as I originally stated, you have no evidence or facts whatsoever. Just a lot of wishful thinking on the part of some sad identity-seeking queens with way too much time on their hands.

Rumors, no matter how many years they are around, are not evidence, and your failure to provide any facts or evidence, as apparently someone in the know, certainly proves my statement. And your statement as fact that TC is gay adds nothing except illustrate your susceptability to accept and perpetuate unfounded rumors.

 

Mind you, TC may very well be gay--i'm not saying he is or isn't--just that I think it is irresponsible to make statements like you have without a basis other than conjecture, and of course that fail-proof litmus test of yours, his protestations.

 

Think what an up roar the gay community would be in if a str8 group started throwing around accusations or statements as you have made. As I said above, gays with your attitude are our worst enemies. I'm really not interested in "getting with that program."

 

I am Flower :*

[Guest 7Zach]

this is but the latest thread on tom cruise...as stated, rumors abound, but i have never seen or read anything concrete. mind you, i am out of the loop, don't go out in his circles, but i would like to fly non-commercial.

in college, i remember two girls who reviewed each and every girl in their group sorority picture, discussing why they didn't like each one.

gay life seems a lot like that. do you think Hoo ought to provide a like to Hello or the spanish equivalent?

[Guest fukamarine]

>Think what an up roar the gay community would be in if a

>str8 group started throwing around accusations or statements

>as you have made. As I said above, gays with your attitude

>are our worst enemies. I'm really not interested in "getting

>with that program."

 

Flower dearest:

 

I hate to tell you this, but you'll never make it as a card carrying fag. (And don't bother to tell me you don't want to)

 

You lack the sense of the absurd, you have no appreciation of gay gossip and you're so high up on the prissy factor scale that you break the fuckin' meter.

 

>I am Flower

 

You got that right!

 

fukamarine

[Spida]

>There will come the day - it may take years, but trust me,

>it will come - when TC is outed and exposed for the homo he

>is. The sad thing is that he is terrified of standing up and

>admiting the truth about his sexual orientation. I don't

>think it would affect his box office appeal one iota.

 

Hey what's this about Matt Damon being gay?? :-)

 

>He could then happily co-habit with Matt Damon

[Guest bottomboykk]

>Hey what's this about Matt Damon being gay?? :-)

 

All sorts of rumors have been going around about his sexuality, and whether he and Ben get it on. Wishful thinking, most likely, but count me among the wishers! }>

[+ Hoover42]

>

>I am Flower :*

 

Flower, please forgive the non sequitur, but your signature seems incomplete to me.

 

Every time I see "I am Flower" at the end of one of your posts, I finish the thought with "Tremble before me!" or "Resistance is Futile!"

 

Am I misreading the tone of the signature?

:-)

[Guest ncm2169]

Sigh. :-( All this breast-beating, fist-pounding, foot-stomping, and soul-searching is...umm...nice, I guess. :* What about the fucking allegations that he "settled" (as opposed to prosecuting, which he's done before) a "gay lawsuit"? :7 We all appreciate spleen-venting here, but, holy Jesus, do any of you have an answer for me "on topic" so I don't have to now go back to the supermarket and ask for last week's edition? x( (On the security cameras, no less?).

[+ deej]

The story is a yawner.

 

He "settled" (as in paid for legal fees) a side suit with the wife of the pornstar he sued last year. It's just the winding down of that whole sorry deal, but it's "settling" again, so the tabloids will pick up on the word AGAIN.

 

I only know this from reading websites, of course. ;-)

[Guest ncm2169]

Gossip hound. :9 May you incur the wrath of Flower.

[+ deej]

>Gossip hound. :9

 

Guilty as charged.

 

>May you incur the wrath of Flower.

 

I have his number. Err ... color. :9

[Flower]

>Every time I see "I am Flower" at the end of one of your

>posts, I finish the thought with "Tremble before me!" or

>"Resistance is Futile!"

>

>Am I misreading the tone of the signature?

>:-)

 

LMAO I like that--hmmm, nope, I think you got that right now that I think about it.

 

Sorta like "I am Woman" of many years ago. Actually however, only one person on here as guessed where I got "Flower", and it ain't close to making anyone tremble :+

 

I am Flower :*

[Flower]

>>Gossip hound. :9

>Guilty as charged.

>>May you incur the wrath of Flower.

>I have his number. Err ... color.

>:9

 

 

Better be careful , or I'll pull a "Kalifornia" or is it a "Nixon" -- and "you won't have Flower to kick around anymore" LOL :+

 

hmmm, Maybe I better not tempt you'al }>

 

But I will say this, as a gay man who was closeted most of his life and was fearful of exposure, I can see and painfully feel another side to this.

 

I wish I had had the courage to come out as early as many of you here did, but I didn't and I paid a price; but still I had to do it in my own time and on my own terms and did. I don't think any man deserves less, famous or not--except if he is closeted and at the same time trashing gays for political or other advantage or motive.

 

I like gossip as much as the next gay, but I save it for close friends and beer, or when we're doing facials and not the public boards--doesn't mean I am right or better, just the way I do it and believe, based on my value structure.

 

I am Flower :*

[+ deej]

It's a small world, but there's room for a lot of differences in it.

 

Remember that a large chunk of our society would be aghast at the idea of a website devoted to discussing m4m escorts. We're not exactly in a 'take the high road' position. ;-)

 

When it comes to gossip, there are entire websites dedicated to it so I generally prefer to leave it there. The Tom Cruise rumors, though, have been so pervasive and constant for the last 15 years I don't see any reason to squelch them. Even my mother asked me if he's gay. (Told her I hadn't seen him at the club meetings. ;-))