A word about dick pics....

[JoeyBryant]

I actually like that he doesn't show his dick in his photos. I feel the same way about most model shots too Id rather see a pic of a guy in some sexy undies too being fully nude.

 

I was glancing at another thread, and didn't feel like posting there but just felt like commenting on dick pics...

 

Having worked with several photographers and having delved into the modeling industry myself, the whole thing about showing or not showing really boils down to how its done. I questioned myself on the subject because for a year or so I refused to take any showing. But I've worked with photographers who've dealt with the debate on it, and most feel that as long as its presented in the right way...it can actually enhance the photo.

 

A person taking 15 camera shots of nothing but their dick or having photos of them ass up, wide open is alot different than something thats a bit more seductive that shows some ass, some cock.

 

The draw that actually made me go into doing nude shots was when a photographer showed me a 'chart' of hits to different photos ranging from fully clothed to completely nude...but of same person. You can only guess which photo got the most hits and attracted the most comments/attention.

 

Just felt like clearing the air, so none of us won't start throwing any art away...And Joseph thanks for allowing me to quote you as an example LOL.

[josephga]

for me its not how the dick or ass is shown art vrs trashy. I like somethings left to the imagination lol

[Guest IndyMedic2006]

I have a thing for a hot guy in sexy undies so I have to say I like to see a set of photos start out with sexy undies and maybe artfully lose the undies. One or two nudes is enough for me

[RockHard]

To show or not to show...

 

I've worked with photographers who've dealt with the debate on (showing dick), and most feel that as long as its presented in the right way...it can actually enhance the photo...You can only guess which photo got the most hits...Just felt like clearing the air.

There's no air to clear and photographers will always use the "presented in the right way" argument because photographers want to see your cock, too.

 

The show/don't show issue is about choice, not good/bad, right/wrong. In porn, or any of its sister industries, showing cock outsells all the other choices by a mile. So, from a business perspective, one simply can't argue with the cock-showing math. One must also consider that the vast majority of customers are bottoms looking to be plowed. One must not discount the importance of "feeding the fantasy" in advertising. If an escort shows a full-scale erection, no matter how artsy the photo, the escort provides an opportunity for the customer to "imagine" what it might feel like to have that torpedo plunged into his ass. Many customers will open their wallets based on imagined perceptions.

 

I love cock and ass, and I appreciate a good cock and ass photo. I will not dismiss an escort because he shows his cock but I will dismiss him if that's all he shows.

 

If an escort decides not to show his cock but I like everything else about him, no problem. Frankly, the profile writing is as important to me as all the stats. But I know I fall into a slim category on this one.

 

An escort who decides not to show his cock and hole, especially an escort who serves gay customers, is extremely brave. When I see such marketing, I automatically know the escort is not looking for just any old customer. Any he certainly isn't looking for size queens.

 

On the other hand, if an escort uses the "no show" marketing strategy, he better not be hiding something and the time with him better be above-and-beyond special. Gay customers who shop for "exclusive" WILL NOT TOLERATE a ripoff con artist. Which is why I say, any escort who doesn't show and sustains years and years of success, he MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT. Isn't that right Jon Ramsey?

[AdamATL77]

There's no air to clear and photographers will always use the "presented in the right way" argument because photographers want to see your cock, too.

 

The show/don't show issue is about choice, not good/bad, right/wrong. In porn, or any of its sister industries, showing cock outsells all the other choices by a mile. So, from a business perspective, one simply can't argue with the cock-showing math. One must also consider that the vast majority of customers are bottoms looking to be plowed. One must not discount the importance of "feeding the fantasy" in advertising. If an escort shows a full-scale erection, no matter how artsy the photo, the escort provides an opportunity for the customer to "imagine" what it might feel like to have that torpedo plunged into his ass. Many customers will open their wallets based on imagined perceptions.

 

I love cock and ass, and I appreciate a good cock and ass photo. I will not dismiss an escort because he shows his cock but I will dismiss him if that's all he shows.

 

If an escort decides not to show his cock but I like everything else about him, no problem. Frankly, the profile writing is as important to me as all the stats. But I know I fall into a slim category on this one.

 

An escort who decides not to show his cock and hole, especially an escort who serves gay customers, is extremely brave. When I see such marketing, I automatically know the escort is not looking for just any old customer. Any he certainly isn't looking for size queens.

 

On the other hand, if an escort uses the "no show" marketing strategy, he better not be hiding something and the time with him better be above-and-beyond special. Gay customers who shop for "exclusive" WILL NOT TOLERATE a ripoff con artist. Which is why I say, any escort who doesn't show and sustains years and years of success, he MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT. Isn't that right Jon Ramsey?

 

Although I usually don't agree with RockHard's views (what little I've seen since becoming active again), I have to agree on a couple of points he's mentioned here.

 

I don't deal with a lot of guys who offer me photography services because they do want to see my assets.

 

And I'm familiar with the ripoff tactic mentioned in the last paragraph but I don't know Jon Ramsey personally.

 

Having only 8 inches, I know I'm at the bare minimum for most size queens but I'm also on the large end for those who "rarely get fucked". However, one of the most commented photos of me is the one with me sitting in a lawn chair only 3/4 erect. It is the only old photo of me that I use because I don't take many dick pics and certain repeat clients voice their disapproval when I have taken it down. I know where my money is and I always maintain a couple of dick pics even if all of the rest are clothed. The rest of my advertising picture are kept current because if they aren't looking specifically for dick, they will insist on current pics and looking presentable.

[dapurplebear]

I find full-frontal shots - non-erect are more hot... personally.... :-) - Ass shots - they require a lot of artistry-but when they are....WOW....

[RockHard]

Please comprehend with care.

 

Although I usually don't agree with RockHard's views

Excuse me, but I have perfect vision.

 

And I'm familiar with the ripoff tactic mentioned in the last paragraph but I don't know Jon Ramsey personally.

Please don't misconstrue or misinterpret my words. Jon Ramsey is NO ripoff or con artist. He is a very successful escort with many years of experience who does not show cock and hole. I referenced him because his first-class reputation is well documented on this board, and it has nothing to do with "show the cock and hole" marketing.

[AdamATL77]

Please don't misconstrue or misinterpret my words. Jon Ramsey is NO ripoff or con artist. He is a very successful escort with many years of experience who does not show cock and hole. I referenced him because his first-class reputation is well documented on this board, and it has nothing to do with "show the cock and hole" marketing.

 

Sorry, I should have said only "I'm familiar with the ripoff tactic mentioned in the last paragraph; I've come a across a few." And as a separate point, I'm not familiar with Jon Ramsey. I'm also sorry for the poor choice of words that I started my previous post with. I would edit them out but the system has already locked the post from changes.

[Jaker27]

I personally like the artistic pics. My favorites are when a guy reclines say in a chair with it hanging down kind of soft/hard. You see his out stretched torso and a little of his face. Just taking a dik pic doesn't do anything for me though. I have to connect it. Plus, I'm a self admitted size queen. Anything under a certain size just doesn't do anything for me.

[RockHard]

Thank you!

 

Sorry...I'm also sorry...I would edit them out but the system has already locked the post from changes.

 

Yeah, I hate the timer thingy on the edit feature here but very few care what I think about this. Some sites don't permit any edits so a limited opportunity is certainly better than no opportunity.

 

I always accept apologies but, in this case, they weren't necessary. I do appreciate your clarification, though, because incorrect or misunderstood words on the internet can cause problems. Some escorts ask for a sullied reputation, others don't. I will always defend those escorts who treat their gay male customers in a professional manner. IMO, Jon Ramsey is a star.

 

As for not agreeing with my views most of the time: it's impossible to know what you mean since I seldom post. I prefer men who are more specific. Generalities are, well, too general for me.

 

I love a thoughtful difference of opinion so don't hesitate to offer me your opposing view in the future. A man with no opinion is the most boring of all.

[+ bigjoey]

As I have posted on other threads, I have been seeing Jon Ramsey for weekends for about 14 years; we see each other about 5 to 6 times a year. On his last visit, the subject came up and he wants to be appreciated for all his skills and not just for his dick. When a phone message or email starts off with a question like: "How big is your dick?" or "Send me a picture of your dick." he moves on to the next email or phone message. His feeling is those guys just want to get off and he will be treated just like a piece of meat.

 

Jon is more like the courtisan who offers a holistic experience. He is smart, funny and wants to completely please you. Guys with dicks are a dime a dozen but a special escort can offer so much more than just a dick. He wants someone who is looking for more than just a quickie and will appreciate him for all he offers. There is a reason why he is still so popular after all there years: he delivers a great service.

 

He stays very busy with those who appreciate him. By the way, he has a beautiful dick.

[dapurplebear]

ps. Jon does show it all on his current men4rentnow.com ad - I get to see it all Monday night!

[RockHard]

Holy smokes.

 

Jon does show it all on his current men4rentnow.com ad

Good catch. I rarely visit that site. Clearly Jon is changing his approach. The financial crisis in this country has caused many businesses to "get creative" in order to thrive and survive. Jon is smart. You do what you have to do to keep the register ringing. At least he has the good sense to present very good, straight-forward photography, and he shows cock and face, which, for me, is a win-win.

[+ bigjoey]

The top right hand picture on Men4rentnow.com was taken on my deck looking into my sunroom!!! I did not know Jon was using it on the internet. Jon has hundreds of nude pictures for private use and he has given me some, including a series shot on my deck.

 

While jon may be a handsome man from the outside (you should see the looks at my gym when he showers), his true beauty is the personal skills he has developed and how he treats people. If you hire him, you get a winner.

 

If you look carefully through my window, you can see a picture of a boy on the wall; it is an oil by Robert Bliss and part of my collection of art works by gay artists including Jared French, Paul Cadmus, Don Bacardy and others. However, when Jon is there, he is the most outstanding piece of art!

[AdamATL77]

you should see the looks at my gym when he showers

 

Dammit! You just reminded me why I should have joined the gay owned gym in town rather than the cheap, new, fully equipped one that will probably have mostly straight members.

[BaronArtz]

I have seen some amazing, yet artistic ass shots on the following site: http://www.StudBankImages.com The photographer is a fixture on the NY adam4adam rooms using the profile name ReadMyProfileGuy. He also published two (!) books about the male rear end, one of which became a best seller. What is really interesting is that he is not shy about highlighting the beauty of the male anus - most photographers in this genre focus on just the butt and shy away from ... what matters most. I recommend you take a look, and, if you are interested in having pictures of yourself taken by this thoroughly gay connoisseur of the male form, he is very reasonable.

 

 

 

I find full-frontal shots - non-erect are more hot... personally.... :-) - Ass shots - they require a lot of artistry-but when they are....WOW....