Overnight and Hygiene Question

[leigh.bess.toad]

Doctors rarely, if ever, want fecal samples these days, which is why at-home FOBT tests are available via prescription at your local pharmacy. Even if you're doctor wants to test for Amebiasis, chances are he'll give you a kit to take home so you can handle your own shit. The bottom line: nobody wants to deal with your shit.

 

If you're turning 50, there are other anal tests your doctor will want to do and none of them require the presence of fecal matter.

 

My NYC doctor is gay and he asks his patients; gay, straight, male, female, and transgendered, to come prepared for rectal exams. He realizes that some people don't go anywhere near their assholes no matter what. Some people are so oblivious, you actually have to tell them to clean their ass.

 

Rock maybe they do things differently in NYC but down here the FOBTs (are there are 2 different types of tests) are still done routinely and are still part of the recommended standard of care. I know that there are special occaisons (reported blood in stool by the patient) where the doc will send the 3 card sample kit home but the normal FOBT test is still done in the office, at least around here it is. I've never been to a doctor who didn't. I've worked in a primary care medical office, I've hung out with doctors and pharm reps for the last 10 plus years. Trust me, they are still routinely done and are in fact one of the most frequently billed CPT codes to insurance companies and Medicare. The newest test, the immunoassay version, is one reason why I don't think it will be dropped. It's highly accurate, but more importantly, it's a big profit margin for the doc's offices. It costs about $10-12 wholesale to buy the test, and most insurance companies and medicare pay something line $24-26 for the test. And for no more work than for the old test which only costs a dollar or two to buy put reimburses less than $5.

 

Just been my experience hanging around the field (as well as giving the doctor my ass once a year) for a number of years that these tests are still, and will still routinely be done in most primary care offices.

 

Maybe they do things different in NYC but out in the rest of the country, I don't think so. And in case you're wondering, this is not some backwater little area. We have a major medical college in town. So the docs have to stay up to date on the latest tests and testing regimens.

[RockHard]

Backwater medicine.

 

Health care is rarely the same across America. My brother is an infectious disease researcher for the CDC. The notion that any doctor requires a patient to visit the office with stool in his or her asshole is silly. That's all I'm saying.

[JT Brooklyn]

Totally Agree with RH.."Backwater Medicine" at its Finast!

[leigh.bess.toad]

Health care is rarely the same across America. My brother is an infectious disease researcher for the CDC. The notion that any doctor requires a patient to visit the office with stool in his or her asshole is silly. That's all I'm saying.

 

I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one Rock -- amiably I hope. Unfortunately, I don't believe that even 10% the American patient base would be able to collect a valid, usable sample for diagnostic purposes. And they sure as hell wouldn't be able to clean their ass before going to the doctor either. As a general rule, most patients are idiots. Sorry, but I've seen too many patients come in because their teeth itch or the diabetic who keeps losing digit after digit because they refuse to care for themselves or the , well you know the stories.

 

Because when it comes to health care, the vast majority of people know nothing about their own healthcare.

 

However, as fascinating as this discussion is, it certainly is off the topic at hand. So what say you and I drop this and return to the subject of morning sex?

[leigh.bess.toad]

Totally Agree with RH.."Backwater Medicine" at its Finast!

 

BG -- you call this backwater and you spell it finast??? roflmao. Sorry man, just couldn't help it. No harm intended. But it is kind of funny.

[RockHard]

Sucks to be you.

 

As a general rule, most patients are idiots.

My, my, what cynicism, laced with contempt. Maybe that backwater is causing some dysentery. From my perspective, a vast majority of educated adults take a pro-active attitude towards their health care. Given the current state of things in America, it is the smart thing for everyone to do.

 

So what say you and I drop this...

You're free to drop anything you wish to drop, even a #2 in your doctor's office. Nobody controls me.

 

you call this backwater and you spell it finast??? roflmao

Laughing at someone's spelling typo or possibly his spelling mistake is remarkably juvenile, especially on the internet in the company of adults who did not grow up working on computers. To laugh with such gusto in the face of a complete stranger illustrates really cheap behavior and a very unflattering personality.

[leigh.bess.toad]

My, my, what cynicism, laced with contempt. Maybe that backwater is causing some dysentery. From my perspective, a vast majority of educated adults take a pro-active attitude towards their health care. Given the current state of things in America, it is the smart thing for everyone to do.

 

I plead guilty to cynicism. And probably contempt. You try living in Jeff Foxworthy and Larry the Cable Guy land for 25 years and see if doesn't affect you. And it's also called being on the front lines of the battle, seeing patients day after day. Not living in some theoretical white tower or in NYC where the medical habits of patient populations would certainly be different than in my neck of the country or most necks I would assume. And while I agre the vast majority of "educated" adults do take a pro-active attitude towards their health care, not all do, and the great majority of patients are not "educated" about health care matters through no fault of their own. In an ideal world would everybody be actively participating in their healthcare? Is that what we DESPARATELY need in this country if we are going to get out of the health care mess? ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY. Unfortunately, from my first hand experience it isn't the case. I wish it were, and I wish my cynicism didn't exist. I didn't before I started seeing up close and personal. But experience can be a bitter teacher.

 

You're free to drop anything you wish to drop, even a #2 in your doctor's office. Nobody controls me.

I was trying simply to be curteous to the OP to get back to his topic. That's all. I was not trying to dictate anyone else's actions.

 

Laughing at someone's spelling typo or possibly his spelling mistake is remarkably juvenile, especially on the internet in the company of adults who did not grow up working on computers. To laugh with such gusto in the face of a complete stranger illustrates really cheap behavior and a very unflattering personality.

 

First, I normally do not comment on "typos". It was just in the context it was made that struck me as funny. Second, I don't consider BG a complete stranger. I consider him a friend, and that is why I was proud and honored when he accepted my friendship request a few weeks ago. I am thrilled when anyone accepts or extends an offer of friendship to me because I value friendship so highly. Third, shortly after I posted that, long, before your post this time, I had sent BG a PM personally apologizing in case he did take any offense, telling him that it was meant in good fun, no maliciousness was intended. I would not have poked fun at what was clearly a type to someone I did not know and I had never interacted with. And I do feel unfairly protrayed by your depiction.

 

I think my record on these forums of trying to be kind and generous to everyone here will stand on it's own. I will let other posters make their decision on me on that. I've never had even the slightest disagreement with anyone on these boards, until now. And if I've offended you, I am sorry, that certainly was not my intent. I've said over and over my whole purpose of being here is to share what little I know but mainly to learn from others. Sometimes people just disagree. As I said you and I would on this subject. But I also said I hoped it would be amicably. I was trying to have some silly banter with someone I consider a friend. If it was misconstrued by you, or even by BG, I apologize again. That was not my intent.

 

And so if you would like to keep criticizing me and picking at this, please go ahead. I will no longer defend myself I will withdraw my colors from the field. The field is yours, sir.

[Okliehomo]

Since we are sharing.....

 

As you all know, I only do overnights because of location, location, location... so, I have had more than my share of ... um... surprises.... and given my sexual act of choice..... well, that can be a real mood killer.

 

Back in the old days, I used to just get a King Suite... that is, a living room with a bedroom and one bath attached. These days, I get the same King Suite (and I do mean the same one) plus an adjourning room with another bathroom (!!!) plus two queen beds... yeah, I know if I am sleeping in there, it's three queens. I get it...

 

But the way that these rooms are designed... please.. in the King suite, the headboard is right against the bathroom wall.... so, you can hear the toilet flush... you can hear the toilet paper dispenser... so, sequence becomes a HUGE deal... as in, flush, dispenser, shower....sigh of relief, hot time.... or shower, dispenser, flush.... gag, Hepatitis C..... That's a real deal breaker for me, boys. That's the difference between true love and true grit.... and believe me, I am NO FAN of that movie..

 

And to be fair, it does go both ways... I remember way back with Jim Slade, who, by the way, was the biggest hygiene freak of all time..... well, he wanted to fuck me and I was like, "My stomach hurts".... (my usual out with boyfriends) ...so, I had some "shower" time and when I came back to bed, I said, "I feel better." and he said, "Yow, I heard." So sexy... don't you think?

 

The bottom (!) line here is that you are sharing a bathroom with another guy (or in my case of late, guys) for an extended period... so, the thing to remember is.... if you feed them, they will shit... at some point.. (hopefully, not when they are positioned for take off...) So, avoid Mexican buffets and eggs... and remember that there is a bathroom in the lobby.

 

I take all my guests to a Cajun place for dinner and then to breakfast in the morning and believe me, these boys can eat.... and no bad results as yet from that... nope... only bad results have arrived with them:

 

There is sickness.....One of the hottest guys that I have ever met ate fajitas at the airport (seriously?) and we both lived to regret that choice. Another porn star got the stomach flu around 11:30pm so I slept on the couch and got up early to go buy him Imodium AD for the flight home.

 

And there is stupidity....A newbie quite literally exploded and still lead me into the very bedroom attached to the scene of the crime and acted like it smelled like roses.... I couldn't even breathe, much less wax romantic about the point of origin. We retired instead to my room and it still took some doing to clear my head, so to speak and concentrate on the ass at hand.

 

I am reminded of Kent Larsen.... so fucking hot, one of my all time faves and clean as fuck.... who made the mistake one time of ordering corn beef hash with breakfast.... and by the time we got back to the room and I wanted another round before his departure, he just shook his head, sadly no, not possible... and on the way to the airport, trying to make him feel better, I told him about another porn star who hadn't been quite as... um.. special back there as I had hoped and he just looked at me and again, shook his head and said, about the porn star, "Dude, just clean your butt."

 

Words to live by, for sure.

 

Okie

[leigh.bess.toad]

Okie -- You have a great storytelling ability that I find very charming and hysterical. "Yow, I heard". But some very good points on some things to avoid as far as dining. Me, I've always had a fear of broccoli and cauliflower with dinner for the consequences. Yet it seems like every dinner is served with "fresh steamed broccolil" like there's no other vegetable in existience.

 

But thanks for the funny and smart post. I'll remember some of that on my next sleepover.

[runthemhoes]

Isn't one of the reasons we pay big bucks to hire escorts that we don't have to worry about being judged about "surprises"? In my mind, an escort's job is to show you a good time despite any imperfections you may have. Not that you should intentionally do anything gross, but you're presumably spending good money, and should not have to worry about "what he might think."

 

NO. people shouldn't have to deal with shit. that's not what they're paid for. Jesus.

[runthemhoes]

I say take an imodium the night before. slows down your bowels and digestion.