College Rock

[Rod Hagen]

Was the College Rock of the early 90s actually good? I don't mean the earlier and overtly gay stuff like Joy Division or The Cure. I mean the pseuodo-intellectual stuff that was neverthess suitable for keg parties: Too Much Joy, Echo and The Bunny Men, The Primitives, Big Pig, Sugarcubes, The Replacements, The Smithereens, the THE (remember them?). ALT music as it was called then. I've been listening to some of the stuff yesterday and today and I'm like uhmmmmm......? Whaddya think?

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>I've been listening to some of the stuff yesterday and today and I'm >like uhmmmmm......? Whaddya think?

 

I'm like uhmmmmm......? WaddaI care?

 

To my ears, none if this qualifies as music.

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest BigSquirt]

>Was the College Rock of the early 90s actually good? I

>don't mean the earlier and overtly gay stuff like Joy

>Division or The Cure. I mean the pseuodo-intellectual stuff

>that was neverthess suitable for keg parties: Too Much Joy,

>Echo and The Bunny Men, The Primitives, Big Pig, Sugarcubes,

>The Replacements, The Smithereens, the THE (remember them?).

 

I can't imagine any of this music playing at any keg party I've ever been to...everyone would have bolted for the exits. But then again, a keg party in the midwest is likely much different than one in LA!

[taylorky]

smashing pumpkins and bjork rule,older stuff would be anything that metalica does,shirly manson,is cool,and more old stuff the beastie boys.........

[Huey]

>Was the College Rock of the early 90s actually good? I

>don't mean the earlier and overtly gay stuff like Joy

>Division or The Cure. I mean the pseuodo-intellectual stuff

>that was neverthess suitable for keg parties: Too Much Joy,

>Echo and The Bunny Men, The Primitives, Big Pig, Sugarcubes,

>The Replacements, The Smithereens, the THE (remember them?).

> ALT music as it was called then. I've been listening to

>some of the stuff yesterday and today and I'm like

>uhmmmmm......? Whaddya think?

 

Ok since you asked, Sugarcubes were OK not really sensational and hardly a party band. The Smithereens were a lame pop band that had no impact on me whatsoever. the The sure I rememebr them though not for their music more so because I found Matt Johnson to be as boring as he looked . I do feel the odd song that Johnny Marr co-wrote and played on are amazing.

 

The band that really strikes a raw chord with me, The Replacements. Let It Be and Hootenanny were brilliant records. The perfect band to party or chill with. I cannot speak highly enough about their Twintone era just prior to signing to Warner brothers.

 

RH do you really feel the Cure are overtly Gay? I don't think of them in that sense at all. While some of the music had suggestive overtones I feel it was far more subtle than you apparently do.

 

I also don't know if I would call the bands you list above as "alt.music" When I hear that term I think more about Sonic Youth or The Flaming Lips (from the 90's) as being considered alternative. Now it is Jimmy Eat World, Blink 182 and Popa Roach that fits the alt handle and none would make my Top Ten list

 

To answer your question I guess it depends on what college radio station you were listening to

 

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WAR IS OVER

if you want it

GIVE PEACE A CHANCE

[chrismac]

OMD all the way bay-bee.

[Matt_Vancouver]

I am a Music snob.

 

"overtly gay stuff like Joy Division or The Cure".

didn't know music could have a sexual preference: ) BUT HERE'S ONE TO PONDER...Why is it that no matter where you go in north america, if you are in a 'goth' type club, there will always be some overwieght closet case Robert Smith wannabee dancing like a bat by himself?

 

Now the authority speaks......

 

 

>Echo and The Bunny Men........ OVERATED!!!!!!!!!!

>The Primitives..................EH!...

> Big Pig........................Not even worth the bits wasted typing thier name

> Sugarcubes......................Iclandic quirkiness that spawned bjork on the unsuspecting planet(methinks a wormhole meets our solar system at Reykjavik

>The Replacements.................THE COOLEST MOST INFLUENTIAL BAND EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> The Smithereens..................lOVE....BUT NO REPLACEMENTS

> the THE ..........................Mind Bomb....brilliant

 

matt (has spoken)

[Matt_Vancouver]

now if there ever was a GAY band.... : ) just teasing...

matt(orgasmic male dicks)

[Matt_Vancouver]

The talent that time forgot.

 

One cannot forget the second British Invasion, late 80's early 90's with band like Stone Roses, blur, Charlatans, Neds Atomic Dustbin, the dreaded Jesus Jones, Candy skins, Suede, Pulp (fronted by one of the most arrogant men since a young cocky Mick JAGGER appeared many years ago).....

the list of great 'britpop' or 'indie' bands to come out of that scene is long, and many of these bands can be credited with bringing guitars back.

did anyone catch the Hives vs Vines thing... on mtv awards? two fucking great rock n roll bands... but I kept expecting the strokes to shuffle on, followed by white stripes, who'd be carrying the corpses of the Rolling Stones and Iggy Pop (who they've obviously picked clean of everything they know)....But who cares... woohoo crunchy guitars are back.... where is ted nugent... oh yeah. out huntin' buffalo or something... never mind...

oh he does go on.

matt(digging out his old jesus and mary chain vinyl)....ah nobody does feedback quite like em: )

[Huey]

RE: The talent that time forgot.

 

Time also seems to have forgotten Morphine, Red House Painters, Television, That Petrol Emotion, Richard Hell and a host of other indie style bands

 

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WAR IS OVER

if you want it

GIVE PEACE A CHANCE

[Matt_Vancouver]

: ) : ) : )

 

huey... are you single, cuz I wanna sweep you into a dark gloomy place... I think I'm in love.

Matt(aka dark cloud of doom....ALL GOTH.... ALL THE TIME: ) hardly: ()

[Rod Hagen]

RE: I am a Music snob.

 

I think we are all agreed that the Replacements, born from my college town, was genius. Anybody here have "Stink", their best album? "Hello, this is the Minneapolis police, the party is OVER!" "Fuck School" was my Jr. High fav. I'd play it over and over and over while getting ready in the morning, putting me in a perfect mindset for a full day of attempted brainwashing and spirit breaking, "He teacher! FUCK YOU!".

 

Any "Screaming Blue Messiah" fans here?

 

And how about that Mind Bomb, eh Matt? Freshman year I turned Mind Bomb to 10 and then passed out, sober but exhausted. When I woke in the morning the Stereo was off and there was a note from the Dormitory security that they'd let themselves into the room in the middle of the night to shut the stereo off as they were receiving complaints. And I managed to sleep through that. Truly hypontic, trance before there was a word for Trance I guess. Pre-Trance.

[Rod Hagen]

RE: The talent that time forgot.

 

"Ned's Atomic" was garage enough to make you wanna get hammered, yet in a sober setting the lyrics seemed thoughtful: "When she looks at me in that tone of voice, she don't need to make a noise. I can read her thoughts, in capital letters." "She'll break some hearts when she grows up, she'll break some hearts when she owns up. Mine is one, mine is one." Etc I still enjoy that CD once everyother week.

 

Speaking of Jesus bands, wasn't there also a Jesus Lizard? If I remember correctly The Jesus And Mary Chain was sparky, yet brooding. I'm going to Limewire now and see if that was actually the case. Hold please.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Pop Will Eat Itself

 

The second Brit invasion? Hmmm.

 

I remember when both Meloday Maker and NME gave rave reviews to the PWEI album, so I spent my then hard earned HO cash (as a simple $100 an hour fuck) on a $23 cd, I loved about four of the songs and it was something I quickly gave up. But then, I went from "Love Will Tear You Apart" to Head Hunter. And while I loved clever covers, I thought Ministry was the far over-rated band versus Front 242 or even Nitzer Eb, including "Let's Get Physical."

 

My idea of clever was Claudia Bracken covering "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" (sublime, especially the Louis Armstrong sound alike scatting) over the far more popular and disgusting Hippie Chick with the sample of "How Soon Is Now." Another sublime piece of heaven is Fraziar Chorus' cover of "Anarchy In The U.K." Kitchenof Distinction's first album is good. PiL stadium rock album is brilliant, I cannot remember any of the songs know but I do recall being stopped by a cop in San Francisco with headphones on who said he could hear from across the street and that I was causing ear damage to myself. I said, "thank you officer."

 

I think the Pet Shops Boys were underrated at this same time frame, the The's only decent album was Mind Bomb, yes on the Replacements, absolutely not on the Smithereens or Big Pig (Black Flag for keg parties over either) but somewhere around 1991, I got very much into ambient music and everything I owned that I kept is in a banker. Once a year or twice, I pull it out and go through it, last time I listened to Beauty and the Beat, some early Marc Almond, Coldcut's first CD, the Jesus and Mary Chain and a few other nameless show grazers.

 

Everyone loves rock but no one wants to dance to it.

 

UPDATED 09/04/2002 - http://www.gaydar.co.ukfrancodisantis

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

ah yes

 

That Petrol Emotion were great and Television. My best friend, who unbeknownst to me was shooting up speed and heroin at the same time we were listening to live music, had all this stuff, so I have it on tape. I do not even own a "walkman" type device anymore and who listens to That Petrol Emotion in their car in Los Angeles. It is bad enough I do not shave my arms....

[Rod Hagen]

RE: Pop Will Eat Itself

 

Ich bin ein Auslander.

 

And I gotta disagree with all of you on Too Much Joy. There shit's flippantly wanky, but in a really gratifying way, you know?

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Too Much Joy

 

I saw them in concert. In a small club setting, with about 10 employees, my three friends (the speed freaks and the heroin/speed freak addict) and about 25 customers. It was pleasant enough, but three weeks later, one building up (I forget all these names, too much Rolling Rock will do that to you), the significant other dragged me to Jesus and Mary Chain, and for a band that did not move much and did honestly spend all their time looking downward, they had far more charisma and presence.

 

Happy Mondays and the Sugar Cubes both sucked (also seen in person at the Warfield) and I would take them over Too Much Joy any day.

[Matt_Vancouver]

RE: Pop Will Eat Itself

 

. >I remember when both Meloday Maker and NME gave rave reviews

>to the PWEI album, so I spent my then hard earned HO cash

>(as a simple $100 an hour fuck) on a $23 cd,

 

Pwei...still around...??? been sooo long. P W E I...PWE I....P W E I...PWE I

YEAH they did some rather shite stuff, but some of it was amazing... sampling betty rubble and wilma flinstone...: ) who else could pull it off.....

 

>I thought Ministry

>was the far over-rated band versus Front 242 or even Nitzer

>Eb, including "Let's Get Physical."

 

ACCCCCCCCCCCK.... Ministry over rated... not. ok the first album... sad, but EVERYTHING after that... there would have been no Chicago industo scene without Al jorgensen(sp?) ....REvolting Cocks, 1000 homo dj's, noise unit, my life with the thrill kill kult, NIN... even skinny puppy ripped em off on Rabies....Wax Trax(rip) was Ministry.

don't forget Frontline Assembly... another canadian kickass noise fest.

 

>. PiL stadium rock album is brilliant,

 

better than most of the crap put out by sex pistols...

 

>the The's only decent album was Mind Bomb,

 

nope Infected

 

 

 

>(Black Flag for keg parties )

 

what fucking keg parties did you go to? (side note... henry rollins.... phwooooar!)

 

last time I

>listened to Beauty and the Beat, some early Marc Almond,

>Coldcut's first CD, the Jesus and Mary Chain and a few other

>nameless show grazers.

 

Slowdive, my bloody valentine, lush.... swervdriver(soooooo underated)

 

Matt(sounds off)