Training Wheels

[doitb4ugo]

Like riding a bicycle, my experience level with escorts can best be described as being in my "training wheel" stage/phase. As a newbie, I am curious how different escorts react to inexperienced clients. I have had several sessions in the last few months and each escort has handled the situation with newbie me differently.

 

What kinds of adjustments do escorts make to accomodate a newbie? Do these sessions usually succeed for both escort and client?

 

What are the escorts thoughts or considerations regarding meeting and interacting with guys with training wheels.

 

Do longer or shorter bookings improve the experience?

 

I would really be interested in both escorts and client experiences with biking with trainers. Thanks.

[whipped guy]

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[Dave]

What kinds of adjustments do escorts make to accomodate a newbie?

i'll usually ask if they're nervous, and if so (typically they are) acknowledge that it's normal to feel that way at the onset. i try and let them know that we're going to go at THEIR pace, and they're not going to do anything they don't want to. and give them a chance to talk about how they're feeling, if they want that.

 

Do these sessions usually succeed for both escort and client?

mine do, yes. the only times they haven't - honestly - have been when the client was simply too nervous upon entering, and left within a few minutes. that has only happened, though, like twice, in my seven years of escorting. fyi: both were men, and both were extremely nervous - i could tell. these were not cases of "er, it's something about the way you look" - LOL

 

What are the escorts thoughts or considerations regarding meeting and interacting with guys with training wheels.

personally, i love it as much as i love sessions with very experienced clients. both bring something interesting to the table (i mean, bed.) for the newbies, well i definitely enjoy teaching people so it's a comfortable role for me to be in.

 

Do longer or shorter bookings improve the experience?

IMO shorter bookings (which for me start at 90 mins) are better for many clients. so i mean, 90 mins or 2 hrs. many ppl who've seen me before, or are more experienced with hiring, will book longer sessions, but i think when the whole thing is new, a shorter length keeps the amount to process afterwards more reasonable.

 

I would really be interested in both escorts and client experiences with biking with trainers. Thanks.

i biked with training wheels when i was, i guess, about 4 or 5? actually i can't recall exactly when that was. if you really need to know, i can ask my dad.

oh... you mean biking with trainers! my last trainer had me boxing with him, and running... but no biking. although i havent used a personal trainer for over a year now.

 

hope this helps!

[whipped guy]

After kidding doit... some serious thoughts

 

i'll usually ask if they're nervous, and if so (typically they are) acknowledge that it's normal to feel that way at the onset. i try and let them know that we're going to go at THEIR pace, and they're not going to do anything they don't want to. and give them a chance to talk about how they're feeling, if they want that.

BINGO! Actually it even helps during the pre-session communications to get across those concepts. Also, if on the phone just hearing a caring voice will also do it. I recall my first time. We had a nice chat and after determining where I was coming from and where I wanted to go the guy simply said, "Don't worry. You're in good hands." He then put his hand on my thigh, gave me a little tap, and said, "Let's go!". The rest is history... Perhaps at that point I wasn't quite ready to remove the training wheels, but I was able to raise them up quite a bit.

 

IMO shorter bookings (which for me start at 90 mins) are better for many clients. so i mean, 90 mins or 2 hrs. many ppl who've seen me before, or are more experienced with hiring, will book longer sessions, but i think when the whole thing is new, a shorter length keeps the amount to process afterwards more reasonable.

Well, for most guys 90 minutes to 2 hours is a longer appointment, but I agree. A quickie one hour appointment is really way too short to get into the guy's head and make him feel comfortable and anything longer would most likely be overkill.

 

Bottom line: the escort needs to spend a bit of time and have patience with a first-timer or any relative newbie, be as perceptive as hell, and make sure the client feels totally comfortable with what ever they are doing... and stay with in any agreed limits. It might be a good thing (if a certain rapport is quickly established) to tease and try and go right up to the line so as to give the impression that the line could be crossed... but only crossed at the express desire of the client. Actually, it should be that way anytime two individuals are hooking up no matter what their level of experience. After all, it is always is a good thing for all the parties involved to be on the exact same page.

[dapurplebear]

The hope is that us newbies find a good "first escort' who is understanding and willing to give the time to help us ease into it -- I did not find that escort the first time, but did better the second time - but i then was no longer a total newbie...

 

As a newbie -- I must say that the forum was a great help to me and continues to be and in this thread offers a lot of great insight and the escorts a lot of honestly -- which I know I speak for doit when I say - thanks to ALL!!

[Juan Vancouver]

How do I treat a newbie?

 

Hey Mr Doitb4,

 

I haven't posted in this board for a long time, for which reason I feel comfortable writing the same answer I always write for every single question. This joker card answer is:

 

"Well, it depends."

 

To be fully honest I do not treat newbies any different than I treat experienced men in the art of Hiring escorts. (Or in the art of interacting with men.) What I mean by this is not that I am jaded and cold with everyone, but the opposite; I mean that whenever the phone rings or whenever I get an email I put all my attention in trying to hear what this person say he needs, so that I can also try to hear what he doesn't know he needs and maybe I can suggest.

 

I have dealt with many men who were hiring for the first time and seemed as if they were the most experienced guys on earth, and vice versa, men who have been hiring for twenty years who still feel nervous and vulnerable and afraid every single time.

 

I believe that my job, much more than the "hands on" portion of the experience lies precisely in the communication leading and during the meeting. It is always my goal to try to make my client feel comfortable; for some it means laughing a little, joking and creating a light ambience, with other men this means focusing all my energy in a deep, concentrated and serious discussion.

 

The needs of the same man are a little different every single time, so "learning" and repeating what a client likes would be shortchanging him, in the sense that he may be needing something different today and I am not there to listen to his need. Of course, it is very fun and relaxing if I remember our past interactions and know what things he has liked in the past, because this creates a very reassuring sense of familiarity.

 

As for the length of the newbie session, again it depends. Some feel comfortable rushing in, fondling a little, trying things giving the head absolutely no time to think and then leave to digest the experience, and for some other men chatting for a couple hours, going to dinner and developing a bond of trust and relaxation would lead to a better exploration. I believe the client often has a very clear idea of what his preference is, so I have to -again- listen and only then suggest what my personal experiences thinks best.

 

The only thing that I would always try to convey, whether in words or with my attitude, is that when you visit your escort, there is absolutely no -ideal- outcome, no expectation, no set of criteria that you will be measured against. A lot of men visit escorts thinking that they have to measure up to some strange fantasy of what a man should be like, what a client should behave like, what he thinks his escort expects of him. There is no such thing; all you should try to focus on is listen to yourself, and gently go wherever and whenever you feel comfortable. You are in control at all times, so if you need to regroup, or take a break or go deeper, let your escort know, and if he is a professional he will very gladly comply.

 

I hope this is helpful and if you have any more question, please let me know. It is a real pleasure to engage in this kind of exchange in this board.

 

A tight hug and my best wishes.

 

Always hard and warm,

 

Juan

[Businessguy]

Great Answers!

 

Both Dave and Juan have given some great answers and advice. I have experienced Dave's talents first hand and he knows how to read clients very well and responds with a level of intensity that meets the client's needs. I haven't met Juan but from his great explanation, I can tell he is much like Dave in that reguard. They are both true "professionals".

Carefully read the reviews here, read between the lines and find escorts who have Dave's and Juan's qualities. Stay away from the guys whose main motivation is just a quick buck. When you've found a true "professional", kick off the training wheels and trust the escort to manage your "well-being". Remember, training wheels will keep you from properly leaning into the curves. It's a whole different experience when you shift gears, ride at a higher speed, and let the dynamics of the bike work like they are supposed to. Leaning into the curves is like a rush of fresh air and it's simply amazing! Try it - you'll like it!

[Dave]

Both Dave and Juan have given some great answers and advice. I have experienced Dave's talents first hand and he knows how to read clients very well and responds with a level of intensity that meets the client's needs. I haven't met Juan but from his great explanation, I can tell he is much like Dave in that reguard. They are both true "professionals".

Carefully read the reviews here, read between the lines and find escorts who have Dave's and Juan's qualities. Stay away from the guys whose main motivation is just a quick buck. When you've found a true "professional", kick off the training wheels and trust the escort to manage your "well-being". Remember, training wheels will keep you from properly leaning into the curves. It's a whole different experience when you shift gears, ride at a higher speed, and let the dynamics of the bike work like they are supposed to. Leaning into the curves is like a rush of fresh air and it's simply amazing! Try it - you'll like it!

 

well, thanks, BusinessGuy! i've no clue who you are by your moniker though - one of the bizarre aspects of this business. if you'd like to send me a private message and clue me in, that would be great.

 

i think you are right about letting go, once you've found someone who seems right. too often "letting go" becomes a skill we have to almost re-acquire - one that's lost as we move from being children into adulthood. it's a glorious feeling to do so - i know i've done it in other aspects of my life and the result is an immediate and intense feeling of being alive.

 

Juan, as usual, you are spot on. it DOES depend, and as i was writing my own comments on Doitb4ugo’s questions, i realized i was generalizing and thought that doing so might be helpful. i should have acknowledged it as such... regardless, i’m glad you made that point.

 

and Whipped Guy, thanks for pointing out the lengths. i specifically aim for my minimum appointment to be 90 mins, as i feel an hour is just not long enough to connect with someone. of course, there are always men and women out there who are specifically looking NOT to connect, and i get that, too. hell, i’ve even had some appointments booked for 90 mins that finish in 30. the “get your rocks off and go” sort of thing. ah, it’s a big world out there...

[Businessguy]

Mystery Solved?

 

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