Since when did naming a price become popular?

[MiamiLooker]

If "Ask me" really is as simple as hearing a number and saying "yes" or "no", I agree that it shouldn't be much of a problem. But I've always figured it's the opening of a more detailed discussion festooned with "tongue or no tongue", "real or simulated orgasm", "eyes open or closed", and the like. More than a whiff of dickering, and my fantasies and interest are in a race out the door.

 

Somewhere there's an "Ask me" ad I'd respond to, but I haven't found it yet. http://www.maleescortreview.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif

 

Once the rate is published, however, I wouldn't consider haggling, for all the reasons mentioned. Just as I hope to enjoy the escort's company with a smile on my face, I want the very same for him. :)

 

 

Do you think it would be a legitimate response by an escort to a negative or so-so review to say "the client forced me to agree to such a low fee he shouldn't have expected my normally high standard?"

 

 

I don't haggle nor really even negotiate to any extent. However, I find that I'm paying a LOT LESS for sessions now than I did 10 to 15 years ago. I probably hire more often now, though. It must be a win-win situation because the escorts continue to call back.

[Lookin]

Do you think it would be a legitimate response by an escort to a negative or so-so review to say "the client forced me to agree to such a low fee he shouldn't have expected my normally high standard?"

 

No. In my opinion, an escort looking for a good income will always offer his best service, in order to build a loyal following of repeat clients. I understand that's where the money is.

 

Sometimes he may feel he needs to temporarily accept a lower rate because of financial necessity, and that's unfortunate. But I think it would be much worse to jeopardize his long-term prospects by offering an inferior service, and risking a poor review. Potential clients are likely to remember the poor review longer than they will remember the reason for it.

 

If I were an escort, I'd avoid, if at all possible, accepting a client who haggles. They're more likely to be demanding in other ways besides financially, and less likely to become valued repeat clients.

 

Of course, I don't know any of this from personal experience, other than twenty years in service-based commission sales, where I believe there are similarities. Except I never had a client ask if I was top or bottom. It was always assumed that I could be versatile for the right price.

[MiamiLooker]

Of course, I don't know any of this from personal experience, other than twenty years in service-based commission sales, where I believe there are similarities. Except I never had a client ask if I was top or bottom. It was always assumed that I could be versatile for the right price.

 

 

Was it always a one-sided transaction? Did the client always seek you out or did you sometime seek out the client? Were you always selling a service at a given price or were you sometimes faced with meeting the price the client was willing to pay for the service? I only ask because when discussing escort arrangements it's almost always assumed that the client is the one seeking out the escort.

[AdamSmith]

If "Ask me" really is as simple as hearing a number and saying "yes" or "no", I agree that it shouldn't be much of a problem. But I've always figured it's the opening of a more detailed discussion festooned with "tongue or no tongue", "real or simulated orgasm", "eyes open or closed", and the like. More than a whiff of dickering, and my fantasies and interest are in a race out the door.

No daylight between us on that. Whenever I get a whiff of fee-varies-by-act, I run away.

 

But I do hear some guys say they leave the rate unpublished in order to, for example, vary it by cost-of-living differences between one travel city and another. That seems legit.

 

Responding to a lot of "Ask me" ads, only two or three times over many years have I gotten the per-act upsell.

[Lookin]

Was it always a one-sided transaction? Did the client always seek you out or did you sometime seek out the client? Were you always selling a service at a given price or were you sometimes faced with meeting the price the client was willing to pay for the service? I only ask because when discussing escort arrangements it's almost always assumed that the client is the one seeking out the escort.

 

All of the above. It was a big industry, with lots of clients and lots of service providers. When I first started out, I was the one looking for clients, and sometimes had to offer a lower price to get the first transaction. Even then, I provided the highest level of service I could. I decided early on that my niche was going to be clients who appreciated a high level of personalized service and were willing to pay a premium for it. If a client wasn't willing to pay a little extra as time went on, I'd recommend another provider. There were plenty of other service providers who would take the cheap clients, although they were often unhappy with one another. As time went on, nearly all of my business came from long-term clients and referrals.

[Lookin]

But I do hear some guys say they leave the rate unpublished in order to, for example, vary it by cost-of-living differences between one travel city and another. That seems legit.

 

To me too. It's a good point and one I'll start taking into account for traveling escorts. Thanks.

[KinkyNEguy]

Dual Sided...

 

Was it always a one-sided transaction? Did the client always seek you out or did you sometime seek out the client? Were you always selling a service at a given price or were you sometimes faced with meeting the price the client was willing to pay for the service? I only ask because when discussing escort arrangements it's almost always assumed that the client is the one seeking out the escort.

 

While I hate dickering in 'any' arena...this question caught my eye...I hire several times a month, sometimes once a week...usually 50/50 regular versus new person.

 

In the last couple of years I often find several of the guys text me regularly with ... "hey what's up...wanna get togther soon?" This sorta seems two sided....I am typically very generous with my regulars...but I am often tempted to answer these texts with something along the lines of...."I would love to see you even more regularly!, but not for the same price" But my dislike of haggling and not wanting to seem cheap gets in the way. Are others confronted by this?

[JoeyBryant]

To me too. It's a good point and one I'll start taking into account for traveling escorts. Thanks.

 

Earlier this year I was in Tampa, FL as one of my 'stops' (alot of my friends live there, so wasn't really working)...but was due to Atlanta in 3 days. I lowered my price in Tampa by a few bucks, but then changed it the day I was due in ATL. A client noticed this and bought it up during the session. I flat out told him, I had to adjust it...as Tampa's economy back then was shit.

 

He still gave me the increase, but thats an example of how things can fluctuate. However, at this point I rather keep things the same simply so I wont have to explain.

 

In the last couple of years I often find several of the guys text me regularly but I am often tempted to answer these texts with something along the lines of but not for the same price" ?

 

Me personally (and this is just me) but I believe if an escort contacts you (unsolicited) then that automatically gives the client right of way to negotiate. Why? Because we shouldn't be cold-calling/texting/emailing clients in the first place. We aren't bill collectors. But bill collectors allow room for negotiation. If I was to contact you out of the blue, unless it's to return a call or confirm an arranged booking...I prolly should not expect the full fee to be paid.

[Txpaytoplay]

I've had escorts contact me before as well....especially the ones who travel in and out of the city. I have told them at times that I couldn't afford seeing them but would take them out to dinner and catch up. A few times after dinner and we got together for a lower rate because they didn't have an appointment set or one canceled. If just depends I suppose. Communication and timing are always an important factor in negotiating.

[Guest Merlin]

I see nothing wrong with a regular escort contacting the client and, to me, he would not seem like a bill collector.

[+ newatthis]

contacting clients

 

I see nothing wrong with a regular escort contacting the client ...

 

It depends a lot (to me) how I'm contacted and by whom. A personal message from someone I know and have enjoyed previously is always welcome.

 

But how about the escort whom I had seen on Tuesday who sent an email on Wednesday telling me he was in town and asking if I'd like to get together? That confirmed what I had already learned in our encounter, that, despite fabulous reviews, he was an unprofessional asshole.

 

I don't mind generic "I'm going to be in your town" messages if I've asked for notification of someone's travels to my city. I reacted badly, however, to an email that appeared, on first sight, to be personal -- only when I read it closely did I realize that it was a generic message trying to masquerade as personal.

[JoeyBryant]

I see nothing wrong with a regular escort contacting the client and, to me, he would not seem like a bill collector.

 

Well I dont mean simply contact, Im talking about contacting and trying to make a booking. I used to do it at one point but I dont anymore. Now, if its just to say "hey Im in town", then I dont see anything wrong with that either. But personally I wouldn't do that either, they know where Im at

[Guest LeoWalker]

To address one of the original questions about a movement in the industry: the whole M4RN allowing clients to post rates/activities that they want which are instantly sent out to the subscribing escorts. Almost functions like priceline, theoretically.

 

"Ask Me": I knew an escort who did this...and saw first hand why he did. We were sitting in his hotel and he got a call. The client asked his rate, he responded, "$220". The client said that was too much. Escort asked what he found reasonable, client said "$200". I've always viewed "Ask Me" as a way for the escort to increase their call volume with the hope of getting the ones who thought an extra $20-50 was unreasonable. Personally, accepting lower rates in my case depends on my mood.

[+ newatthis]

...Personally, accepting lower rates in my case depends on my mood.

 

Don't know you, but I'd guess from the way you write that if you lowered your rate, you would have made the decision to still provide your best service.

[JoeyBryant]

The client said that was too much. Escort asked what he found reasonable, client said "$200".

 

If someone ever said "thats too much" to me, I would automatically become irritated. When a client says "its too much", it implies 1 of 2 things; neither one being positive. That Im not worth (atleast what they think) whatever amount is on my ad and that they are going to call the shots during the transaction.

 

Its not the fact that the client may not have wanted to spend the extra that I'd be irritated, but just the phrase "thats too much" has all kinds of negative implications in it. I'd be more inclined to accept a lesser offer if that isnt said.

 

And think about it, imagine if every client pulled the same line that was said to your friend. All someone has to say is, "thats too much" and they get an instant discount? Although I can understand the meaning behind his 'ask me', I think it invites haggling. If it were me I'd either lower my rate or keep it as it and just see less clients.

[Guest LeoWalker]

If someone ever said "thats too much" to me, I would automatically become irritated. When a client says "its too much", it implies 1 of 2 things; neither one being positive. That Im not worth (atleast what they think) whatever amount is on my ad and that they are going to call the shots during the transaction.

 

I completely agree with you. I should have been more careful with my words: that was not the intention in this situation, the client did not devalue the escort...but simply said it was more than he was willing or comfortable to pay--irrelevant of the escort. The point was that sometimes $2.95 sounds better than $3.00 and that's why that particular escort put "Ask Me"...so he could charge $3.00 to most and yet still get the ones who wanted to be feeling they got a much better deal by saving $0.05

 

Otherwise, I do agree; to be told it's "too much" does imply a lowering of value of the person.

[Guest zipperzone]

Otherwise, I do agree; to be told it's "too much" does imply a

lowering of value of the person.

 

One could always say, "Sorry but that's more than I can afford". It achieves the same result and is probably not insulting to the escort.