The New Craigslist

[+ Lucky]

Despite the fact that men have been willing to pay for sex since its invention, there are still those who insist that it is not okay to do so unless you have first wined and dined the partner. Then you can fuck away, because paying for dinner isn't the same as paying for sex.

 

It's hard to believe that the law was ever brought in to regulate such things, but it has, and they try. But, if you believe this SFGate article on the new Craigslist, a rose is still a rose.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/09/BUOP190BUC.DTL&tsp=1

[JoshAB]

It's hard to believe that the law was ever brought in to regulate such things..[/url]

 

Thanks Lucky for passing this on.

 

We've heard lots about Craigslist and this type of crackdown, but not once have I heard of a similar crackdown on rentboy, m4rn...and the (I'm guessing) multitude of Female escort sites out there.

 

I understand that Craigslist is much more in the public eye...but meanwhile the escort sites are 100% geared for selling 'illegal' services...and I've yet to hear news of any crackdowns there.

 

Have there been any - and I've just missed them?

 

J.

[+ Lucky]

Are you inviting them? Many law enforcement officers are devoted to enforcing prostitution laws, and they catch judges, lawyers, priests, and other cops among those willing to buy the services. Makes you wonder again why we have these laws. But in some cases, there is a true public problem involved. Street prostitution is often very annoying to the neighbors, involves many ancillary things such as loitering, littering, drugs, and pimping.

It's when the law goes after those who are not bothering anyone, just making decisions for their own lives that one wonders what the issue is. Some larger cities do not bother with this since juries will not convict. Others find that they have bigger fish to fry than men paying for sex and do not want to waste the resources. But, the fact is that many religious organizations keep the pressure on to enforce laws that most don't think are a problem.

No one can tell me why it is wrong for me to go to a bar and see guys dancing naked. But it's still against the law. I can buy a guy a fancy dinner with the idea that he will have sex with me, but I can't skip the dinner and get right to the sex. Unless it's for "free"...as if it ever is!

[josephga]

Here in Atlanta you can actually go down to city hall and get a permit too escort. I read recently that Atlanta vice has around 20 people on staff and they would rather spend their time on other things. that if a escort gets the permit and isn't hanging out in the streets or hitting up for clients in the bars they pretty much look the other way. I know of two guys that were busted in the last month of the cl. in both cases they were charged with massaging without a permit and escorting without a permit.

[AdamSmith]

Somewhat to the point about M4RN, rentboy, etc. being left largely alone, in contrast to CL: The Craigslist case had, to me, at least a dim silver lining in it. To wit, law enforcement in many if not most jurisdictions could muster only a halfhearted interest in prostitution on CL -- until violence entered the picture. Courtesy of our nutcase here in Boston, for instance. Then they sprang to.

 

In a misguided way, to be sure. At least to the thinking of many here. But still, serious large-scale law enforcement resources seem to get devoted to prostitution only when something more serious triggers it. Be it violent crime associated with sex work, or a publicly disruptive street scene.

 

Or crooked inside-baseball such as local prosecutorial politics. Which, oddly, can rebound the opposite way -- viz. the Duke U. lacrosse reverse-scandal a couple of years back.

[Bart]

I think if the issue were just prostitution, I think many of the issues would be put off to the side. The connecting issue is however, drugs. I do not believe the issue in localities is the independent worker, but the prostitution rings and the leaders of those rings who usually have connections to the local drug trade as well. The problem comes in that the sweeps will also bring the small fry with the big fish. If Craig's list was more forth coming on how these ads were paid for, that might lead them to some big fish. So I do not think the majority of the guys on the ads we look at are the key targets they may very well be part of a sting to get to the upper levels of crime.

[Guest zipperzone]

Here in Atlanta you can actually go down to city hall and get a permit too escort. I read recently that Atlanta vice has around 20 people on staff and they would rather spend their time on other things. that if a escort gets the permit and isn't hanging out in the streets or hitting up for clients in the bars they pretty much look the other way. I know of two guys that were busted in the last month of the cl. in both cases they were charged with massaging without a permit and escorting without a permit.

 

Same old, same old. As long as the authorities get their pay day (in this case the price of a permit) they are OK with it.

[josephga]

yup the 2 guys i know that didn't have permits were charged 750.00 each for escorting without a permit regardless if you mention sex and money or not. in the city of Atlanta they require a permit to escort even if donations are for time only.

[Guest zipperzone]

Despite the fact that men have been willing to pay for sex since its invention, there are still those who insist that it is not okay to do so unless you have first wined and dined the partner. Then you can fuck away, because paying for dinner isn't the same as paying for sex.

 

It's hard to believe that the law was ever brought in to regulate such things, but it has, and they try. But, if you believe this SFGate article on the new Craigslist, a rose is still a rose.

 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/09/BUOP190BUC.DTL&tsp=1

 

I read the article and was facinated with the name of Craigslist CEO. Jim Buckmaster.

Wonder what his game is?

[josephga]

I was reading all of the massage code sections the other day one of my charges is failure to keep proper records. the codes idea of proper records is that I keep a hard bound book containing first and last name of every client, every clients home address, phone number, and id every client by their drivers license. who in the hell does that? no one would every buy a massage based on that rule