Interpreting an Escort's AD?

[delg25]

I scheduled an appointment with a escort I found on Rentboy by the name of Riely Fox who will be arriving in Philadelphia this weekend. His ad profile however is open to interpretation. He mostly advertises exotic massages services with whatever else may interest you.

 

Should I assume that means "full service" is included? We have shared e-mails back n forth but mostly about appointment setting. I called and left a voice mssg yesterday because I had a few questions that I needed answered.

 

His original rate was 250.00 but I indicated that was above standard for a erotic massage and he lowered it down to 200.00 On his profile it list he is a non-drug user, however it also indicates further down he is into PNP. I always assumed that indicated drug use. He only has one review on this website which seems to be favorable.

 

I had more bad experiences than good with escorts not representing themselves and/or when the appointment is booked they think their only job is to lie back and be serviced.

 

Any help would be appreciated. Sorry for the long post.

thx

 

ps Steven Draker (if your reading this, the next time your in Philly I'm definetly booking you!) You seemed very professional and above standard than most.

[whipped guy]

Assumptions and more...

 

Should I assume that means "full service" is included?

As the saying goes never assume anything...

I always assumed that indicated drug use.

If you are going to assume anything always assume the worst...

I called and left a voice mssg yesterday because I had a few questions that I needed answered...

Better to get it in writting... as in an email... but you are on the right path. You have questions... he better have the right answers for your needs and expectations.

He only has one review on this website which seems to be favorable... I had more bad experiences than good with escorts not representing themselves

Hopefully someone who has had experience with this escort will be able to enlighten you regarding what type of service he will actually provide. As for myself I see too many red flags... and you don't need another bad experience.

 

Also, you post was not too long!!!!

[alanalt]

First the specific:

 

I don't usually recommend Canadianmale.com as a very reliable source, but Riley does have an ad on it as well that would seem to indicate that he's open to more than massage... But one of the site's reviewers (and they must be taken with especially LARGE grains of salt) also indicates that he doesn't kiss (or didn't kiss during their session) - so there's a potential 'heads up' if that matters to you. His CM profile with a link to his 2 reviews on that site can be found here: http://www.canadianmale.com/myad.asp?escort=riely_fox

 

Moving from the specific to the general:

 

There is no 'standard' for interpreting escort ads, in my opinion. Part of this is due to the usual confusion about what words 'mean' to different people. For instance, PNP on an escort's profile may mean that he will use drugs with the client or it may mean that he won't partake himself but will see clients who want to 'party' during the session. Another part is the understandable desire on an escort's part to avoid the direct linkage of performing sexual acts for money, which is illegal in many jurisdictions. And yet another part is that I've found a lot of what the escort will do is based on the chemistry/rapport they develop with the client. Meaning that often the escort will be intentionally vague about the nature of his 'limits' until he's had a chance to meet and assess aspects of the client that you can't get over the phone/e-mail (personal hygiene being an obvious case of something that can drastically contract/expand an escort's 'limits').

 

My way of getting around this potential communication gap is to be very clear about what I'm 'into' sexually and what I expect to do during a session. By establishing my expectations in writing during the initial contact (which is a reason why 'telephone contact-only escorts' will never hear from me), I can presume that if an escort responds to that contact favourably then the matter is largely settled. I've also found it puts the escort at ease by not putting the onus upon them by asking them the vaguely-worded, somewhat-loaded question of 'what are you into?' as well as allowing the escort the 'comfort' of avoiding the ramifications of linking certain sexual acts to his hourly rate. I've found that approach to be entirely successful at avoiding the kind of mishaps you've encountered with escorts misrepresenting themselves...

 

Hope this helps (and you thought your post was 'long') ,

 

Alan

[Racketjock]

Sage advice

 

Alanalt and Whipped Guy both gave sage advice. I was continually disappointed in my initial hiring because I did not heed this. I choose to communicate up front what I am into and wanting to do for confirmation that they agree to the same and have learned the even harder lesson of establishing the rate up front. I like surprises, but only in a good way, and ones that exceed my expectations, not fall short.

[Bart]

You seem like a straight up client who has no issues discussing rate, so if I were you I would do exactly the same with your interests. It seems you are interested in basically 1 hour appts., if that is the case try to keep the communications direct, short and to the point with a positive attitude and a good professional escort will respond in kind with probably a few questions.

 

If you get a lot well maybe's and "we can discuss it after you get here" I would immediately end the conversation and move on. You may get the reply "Provided there is good hygiene" and that is perfectly acceptable comment from them but the good ones know what they offer, what their limits and are perfectly capable of telling you those very politely.

 

Good Luck!

[whipped guy]

Never Interpret

 

I forgot to mention that an escort’s ad is simply a starting point… that is you are attracted to his pictures, or the ad copy seems to indicate something that would be of interest to you. It should not be something you need to interpret… You are purchasing a product… and you should know exactly what you are getting… and sometimes that takes a bit of effort… analogous to reading Consumer Reports.

 

Interpretations are best left to those in the arts… and remember that in the world of music, for example, the interpretation of a Haydn symphony by an old school conductor in front of the New York Philharmonic will be diametrically opposed to a reading by a period performance practitioner leading an ensemble of original instruments… the exact same music… but boy will it sound different!

 

Simply thinking you are both singing or playing the same tune is definitely no guarantee! Plus remember that you will be paying more... much more than the price of a concert ticket... that should be incentive enough!

 

So get the facts… all the facts or as many as you can reasonably acquire.You deserve no less!

[Guest Musclestudoh]

I forgot to mention that an escort’s ad is simply a starting point… that is you are attracted to his pictures, or the ad copy seems to indicate something that would be of interest to you. It should not be something you need to interpret… You are purchasing a product… and you should know exactly what you are getting… and sometimes that takes a bit of effort… analogous to reading Consumer Reports.

 

I couldn't agree more. An effective ad should pique your interest and set the tone. Just like any marketing strategy, it should leave you wanting to know more, not clueless to what lies beneath.

 

I can tell you that there are several standards that I adhere to for every session, especially new clients.

 

I never agree to a session without first knowing the clients expectations, likes, and interests as well as sharing my own. This really sets the tone and comfort level and lets each person know EXACTLY what to expect. It also shows professionalism and the desire to please, which should create a great connection. They should encourage you to ask questions to make you feel at ease.

Being vague or unsure of the specifics is a tell-tale sign of trouble, or at the very least, feelings of dissatisfaction. There should be an understanding between both people otherwise someone's interpretation could be misread leading to an awkward and disappointing session. Nothing can kill the mood faster than an unexpected surprise.

 

If a client is unsure or vague about what they want then I will lead off by what I am open to and what I enjoy to see if we are aligned. This happens often with those that are "new" to hiring or "new" to man-to-man encounters.

 

An escort worth hiring is one that wants to make sure you get what you are looking for.

Unfortunately for some escorts, money is worth more than integrity.

[JT Brooklyn]

The RATE Includes What?

 

I scheduled an appointment with a escort I found on Rentboy by the name of Riely Fox who will be arriving in Philadelphia this weekend. His ad profile however is open to interpretation. He mostly advertises exotic massages services with whatever else may interest you.

 

Should I assume that means "full service" is included? We have shared e-mails back n forth but mostly about appointment setting. I called and left a voice mssg yesterday because I had a few questions that I needed answered.

 

His original rate was 250.00 but I indicated that was above standard for a erotic massage and he lowered it down to 200.00 On his profile it list he is a non-drug user, however it also indicates further down he is into PNP. I always assumed that indicated drug use. He only has one review on this website which seems to be favorable.

 

I had more bad experiences than good with escorts not representing themselves and/or when the appointment is booked they think their only job is to lie back and be serviced.

 

Any help would be appreciated. Sorry for the long post.

thx

 

ps Steven Draker (if your reading this, the next time your in Philly I'm definetly booking you!) You seemed very professional and above standard than most.

 

 

First of all ..Rarely do we STATE the Working Guys NAME..It does show a little disrespect to him. Then turn around and PLUG someone else's Name

 

You discussed Rate as being High for what allegedly will take place..OK your Choice..He lowered it by $50 He advertises IN CALL $200 so go to him for $150 LOL

 

BUT when you start Tagging things on to just about the point of ANAL..Don't think for a minute the Rate shouldn't or wouldn't go up!

 

So in Closing...You like "Massages with a Happy Ending" stick to the Massage Sites Our New Friend on Daddys!

[Steven_Draker]

I had more bad experiences than good with escorts not representing themselves and/or when the appointment is booked they think their only job is to lie back and be serviced.

 

Delg25, welcome to the Board.

You make a good point above. Nobody wants a 'dead fish' just laying there. Do your homework.

 

ps Steven Draker (if your reading this, the next time your in Philly I'm definetly booking you!) You seemed very professional and above standard than most.

 

Thank you for your consideration and kind words. I'd be glad to meet you next time I'm in Philadelphia.

 

My best, Steven ~

[whipped guy]

Knight is Right!

 

An effective ad should pique your interest and set the tone. Just like any marketing strategy, it should leave you wanting to know more, not clueless to what lies beneath.... An escort worth hiring is one that wants to make sure you get what you are looking for. Unfortunately for some escorts, money is worth more than integrity.

 

Sir Sean... the muscle stud from Ohio is right on target with this one. My all time favorite... now retired escort... was a marketing director and said as much... add integrity into the equation and you have a winner indeed!

[Guest RianB]

Should I assume that means "full service" is included? We have shared e-mails back n forth but mostly about appointment setting. I called and left a voice mssg yesterday because I had a few questions that I needed answered.

 

Not much to ad with what the others have said, but yeah with me I always like to know what Im getting into, or atleast an idea of. Of course desires may and do change during the session which is why I no longer charge per act, prefer an all around time-fee. I even ask them what it is in particular they want, so that Im prepared for that.

 

Also, if you OP, ever use men4rent realize that no matter how much an escort wants to describe what they do, the site admin will gleefully take out or edit anything thats too 'suggestive' which could be something as simply saying "likes to kiss and give erotic massages to completion"...So you may find yourself analyzing what they're into more than it could be analyzed. Only way to know for sure is to just ask.

[delg25]

Update!

 

Thank you to everyone who provided constructive feedback. My appointment with the escort went very well. I was a little apprehensive as all of the communication was done mostly via text messinging. I decided to continue with the appt and when I arrived it was by far the best experience I have had with an escort.

 

We talked about 30min or so and then he began the massage which was very sensual/erotic. Afterwards, we had some fun and he was very engaged throughout the session. He was not a clock watcher and it did not feel like I was with a hourly escort as past experiences would have it.

 

I will definetly book him for an overnight the next time I see him.

[Guest paulbier]

Somehow Hope This Gets Seen in SF

 

The words here are very true and hopefully will help a novice make peace with an overnight that he has left him more screwed up than prior when it was hoped it would be a helpful experience but led to more sexual confusion and insecurity than he could have imagined...$700.00 and barely a kiss. And we don't believe the escort feels a thing. Just an honest reason would have been so less humiliating, and the outcome was infatuation by the hireor to boot.. unreal. Sorry for the sadness..but the scenario is real, no reason to be one sided. Right, Mr. Fantastic?

[alanalt]

The words here are very true and hopefully will help a novice make peace with an overnight that he has left him more screwed up than prior when it was hoped it would be a helpful experience but led to more sexual confusion and insecurity than he could have imagined...$700.00 and barely a kiss. And we don't believe the escort feels a thing. Just an honest reason would have been so less humiliating, and the outcome was infatuation by the hireor to boot.. unreal. Sorry for the sadness..but the scenario is real, no reason to be one sided. Right, Mr. Fantastic?

 

:confused:

 

Are you posting in the right thread??? Because your comment makes absolutely no sense at all (to me anyway) regarding the topic at hand...

[alanalt]

I will definetly book him for an overnight the next time I see him.

 

And write a review!!!