TMBG, Jizzhead et al, these hustlers are prey, you are predators

[Guest WorldEscrt Sean]

RE: these hustlers are prey, you are predators

 

Rod dear, I never said I was on your side sweetie. I was just agreeing with you. My personal opnion of why some of these fucks can't get laid for free has nothing to do with you sweetie. Enjoy QAF!

[Rod Hagen]

Thank you Phage for getting to the heart of the REAL problem here. Ok, it's a given that one can obtain equal or better services from "hustlers" for less money compared to Escorts. Ok? Continuing to argue that point is nothing less than maintaining a smokescreen.

 

Yes these (legal) teenagers, 17-19 year olds, and near-teenagers (20-23...) are going to be more accommodating for less money. The important question is why? Is it because they are more ethical than high price escorts who reportedly ask more and do less? Maybe, so let's take a closer look where their high ethics have landed them.

 

In order to stay on the same page, I'm going to agree that perhaps Hustlers are not any more likely to be drug-addicted than escorts. After all Drugs is a huge problem at all levels of the economic spectrum. I've made my position on even casual drug use clear: It's fucked. But nobody's pointing to solid research that Hustlers are mostly strung out, so most of what we read about here is anecdotal stuff: "I've been hiring escorts and hustlers for years, and the Escorts have more money to spend on drugs, and I find them to be nothing but tweekers" "I've been hiring escorts and Hustlers for years, and I find that the desperation of the streets pushes them to drugs more often than the cushier lives led by your typical Call Guy” But no evidence, so let's assume drug abuse is equitable until we get some solid studies cited, ok?

 

OK, here's where we are so far:

 

1. Hustlers will perhaps, more often than not, do more than escorts are willing to do and for less money.

2. Nobody here has produced evidence that Hustlers are statistically more likely to be on drugs.

 

So this sounds like a win win situation. The client gets to violate the anus of a young, but legal, "street urchin" for very little money (NYTimes monthly subscription rates aren't much more than the hustler fee of $40) and will be treated with even more respect and complacency than escorts will likely offer. On TOP of all this clover, the client doesn't need to feel guilty about giving him cash for drugs, because the hustler isn't anymore likely to buy drugs than a high priced escort.

 

Wrong, you dumb motherfucker. The hustler is going to put that $40 toward his $55/night hotel room.

 

He's going to tell the client all the things he wants to hear, when they converse, just like an escort would. What does that mean? He's not going to tell you that he hasn't been able to get his shit together enough since he arrived in LA to actually have a deposit for a real home/apartment. He's not going to tell you that he's afraid to even try to purchase basic health insurance, the few times a year he actually saves enough to afford it, because he doesn't even have a real address. He's not going to tell you about any drug problem he may have that's keeping him from getting a place of his own. He's not going to tell you that he never believed he could feel so desperate, so alone. Nope, he's going to smile and do what you want, and tell you, if you bother to ask, that everything is fine.

 

Why? Because of pride, for sure-same reason I'd never tell a new client of my concerns for my Father after his recent heart attack, if and when he asks me about my family and home. Most men downplay the shitty stuff, we typically don't like pitty.

 

But also because he doesn't want to scare you off. Like I said, he needs that $40 to put toward the Hotel room he's living in. He may tell you he's staying with a friend, but did you confirm that? Is it your responsibility to confirm that? No. But did you even bother to pry?

 

You can tell all sorts of stories about hustlers who have told you that they have a nice apartment, or are living with a great friend, and just CHOOSE to work on the streets because of the "freedom", maybe you've even visited a couple of these places. But I still maintain that you can’t know even 1/2 of their story, and can't deny that the quality of their lives would MUCH be improved by NOT WORKING ON THE STREETS.

 

No, I can't read minds, so none of this is confirmed. But, think about it for a minute. Is it more likely that they live in a safe environment, have health insurance, and are charging rates 25% of what they could get, simply out of the goodness of their hearts. Or that they simply can't "keep it together" long enough to obtain what they would need to do so?

 

Of course $300/200 is a rip-off compared to $40 for more. FUCKING DUH. I'm the first one to say how amazed I am at the amount of money we make, and I'm not about to try to defend it. It's a lot of cash, too much. That's not the point. The point is you are taking advantage of other men's desperation, and then FUCKING BRAGGING about it. BRAGGING about it you arrogant shithead.

 

I give Marc Anthony a really hard time for "preying" on the young, and I stand by it. But at least the too-young-for-my-personal-comfort-level escorts he hires are more likely to have a home and health insurance, basic western necessities (let's face it, an escort pulling in the money we pull in would have to be a fucking moron, beyond pity, to not have a home or health insurance) instead of the hotel rooms Hustlers inefficiently live in and the health insurance they could not afford or obtain.

 

Hiring men for sex is not an unalienable right.

 

TMBG, Jizzhead et al, these young men are prey, you are predators. BACK THE FUCK OFF.

[Guest alanm]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al, these hustlers are prey

 

The best posting that I have ever read on the Message Center. It points out how even the best of us can be so self involved that we miss basic emotions and facts concerning another person. In this case, a person who may be very much in trouble.

[Guest jizzdepapi]

in my little world

 

Dear Rod:

 

on another thread you decided that any man who wanted to have sex with a 'straight man' was self-deprecating. on this one you've decided that anyone who wants to cross acceptable (to you) age/social barriers is a predator.

 

your post has many words, fancy analysis and sweeping assumptions. sadly, it has little to do with the reality of cavorting with hustlers. it also, typically, does not question anyone else's motivation but restricts them to your pre-conceived notions.

 

if it's okay with you, i will absent myself from your faulty analysis. i don't think you are a particularly malicious individual but i do think you have vastly overrated opinions of your uninformed and narrow-minded value system.

[Guest JustStarting]

Rod's Post

 

Rod--

I've thought a long time about your post--I think you're right but you don't go far enough in your reasoning. Some months ago, I hired my first male escort and had a lovely and memorable time. I wrote a review about it as well and, at the time, was pleased that my review even helped generate a lot of business for this man. I found my time with him fulfilled a life long dream and I wanted to make sure he understood how grateful I was.

As I think back on it, however, this client/escort relationship is not healthy (emotionally, I mean--leave physically to the side for this discussion) for either of us. Whatever the age of the escort (18 or 30), a weathier man is hiring someone to engage in some intimate acts that the escort would never dream of doing if it weren't for the money. (Yes I hear the resounding chorus of "duh's".) Some weeks ago, an escort made a long post saying the same thing--he was criticized and suggestions made he should seek work at McDonalds if he couldn't handle the situation and see how much less he would earn that way.

Yes Rod and Rick Munroe and others (the "older", more experienced) escords may claim to be immune from the emotional toll the work takes, but I doubt it. Gay or straight sex involves more than a physical act. Rod wants to protect the 18 year old escort and I would agree. Yes the review of Aaron of Florida is intriguing and beguiling--but look again at his picture and you tell me: is he really emotionally ready to accept that 50 year old, 40 lb overweight man and pretend to really like it?

Oh the escorts say how they really like sex, like men, and have a professional attitude about it. And we clients really like the fantasy that for a few hours, that handsome, perfect man is in our arms. Yet what is left when we close the door and leave? There's more to clean up than some bodily fluids--tears are a body fluid too.

Read Rod's post again at the beginning of this thread. Shouldn't we all acknowledge the intense emotional force behind his words. Rod may likely deny it, but I think some of his emotion comes from wanting to protect the 18 year old, but some of the emotion comes from his own hurt.

I've read the numerous posts on this site about escorting and "victimless crimes." Are we really so sure that both the client and escort are not harmed?

[Guest WorldEscrt Sean]

RE: these hustlers are prey, you are predators

 

Talk about hitting the nail DIRECTLY on the fucking head! This is why most of these fucks HAVE to pay for sex. Who the fuck in their right mind would want to be with them for free LOL!!!!!!!!!

[Rod Hagen]

RE: these hustlers are prey, you are predators

 

OK, just because the controversial SEAN is posting my within my thread doesn't mean he speaks for me! LOL :-)

 

Sean, stay off my side, YOU'RE POISON HERE! :+

 

JustStarting, you've a big heart. I can't respond to you now as QAF is going to start soon, and I need to go get a Latte for my boyfriend and a QuadTallNonFatCap for myself before the show starts. And I may simply let your post stand on its own, especially since you said I'd probably deny it. But, for what it's worth, thank you for your concern. You're a great guy. Hire me! :*

 

Jizzlips, I don't have time before QAF to say anything other than, "no, you're wrong. I am a malicious person"

 

Let's get back to YOUNG HUSTLERS.

[Guest tmbg]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>Thank you Phage for getting to the heart of the REAL problem

>here. Ok, it's a given that one can obtain equal or better

>services from "hustlers" for less money compared to Escorts.

> Ok? Continuing to argue that point is nothing less than

>maintaining a smokescreen.

>

>Yes these (legal) teenagers, 17-19 year olds, and

>near-teenagers (20-23...) are going to be more accommodating

>for less money. The important question is why? Is it

>because they are more ethical than high price escorts who

>reportedly ask more and do less? Maybe, so let's take a

>closer look where their high ethics have landed them.

>

>In order to stay on the same page, I'm going to agree that

>perhaps Hustlers are not any more likely to be drug-addicted

>than escorts. After all Drugs is a huge problem at all

>levels of the economic spectrum. I've made my position on

>even casual drug use clear: It's fucked. But nobody's

>pointing to solid research that Hustlers are mostly strung

>out, so most of what we read about here is anecdotal stuff:

>"I've been hiring escorts and hustlers for years, and the

>Escorts have more money to spend on drugs, and I find them

>to be nothing but tweekers" "I've been hiring escorts and

>Hustlers for years, and I find that the desperation of the

>streets pushes them to drugs more often than the cushier

>lives led by your typical Call Guy” But no evidence, so

>let's assume drug abuse is equitable until we get some solid

>studies cited, ok?

>

>OK, here's where we are so far:

>

>1. Hustlers will perhaps, more often than not, do more than

>escorts are willing to do and for less money.

>2. Nobody here has produced evidence that Hustlers are

>statistically more likely to be on drugs.

>

>So this sounds like a win win situation. The client gets to

>violate the anus of a young, but legal, "street urchin" for

>very little money (NYTimes monthly subscription rates aren't

>much more than the hustler fee of $40) and will be treated

>with even more respect and complacency than escorts will

>likely offer. On TOP of all this clover, the client doesn't

>need to feel guilty about giving him cash for drugs, because

>the hustler isn't anymore likely to buy drugs than a high

>priced escort.

>

>Wrong, you dumb motherfucker. The hustler is going to put

>that $40 toward his $55/night hotel room.

>

>He's going to tell the client all the things he wants to

>hear, when they converse, just like an escort would. What

>does that mean? He's not going to tell you that he hasn't

>been able to get his shit together enough since he arrived

>in LA to actually have a deposit for a real home/apartment.

>He's not going to tell you that he's afraid to even try to

>purchase basic health insurance, the few times a year he

>actually saves enough to afford it, because he doesn't even

>have a real address. He's not going to tell you about any

>drug problem he may have that's keeping him from getting a

>place of his own. He's not going to tell you that he never

>believed he could feel so desperate, so alone. Nope, he's

>going to smile and do what you want, and tell you, if you

>bother to ask, that everything is fine.

>

>Why? Because of pride, for sure-same reason I'd never tell

>a new client of my concerns for my Father after his recent

>heart attack, if and when he asks me about my family and

>home. Most men downplay the shitty stuff, we typically

>don't like pitty.

>

>But also because he doesn't want to scare you off. Like I

>said, he needs that $40 to put toward the Hotel room he's

>living in. He may tell you he's staying with a friend, but

>did you confirm that? Is it your responsibility to confirm

>that? No. But did you even bother to pry?

>

>You can tell all sorts of stories about hustlers who have

>told you that they have a nice apartment, or are living with

>a great friend, and just CHOOSE to work on the streets

>because of the "freedom", maybe you've even visited a couple

>of these places. But I still maintain that you can’t know

>even 1/2 of their story, and can't deny that the quality of

>their lives would MUCH be improved by NOT WORKING ON THE

>STREETS.

>

>No, I can't read minds, so none of this is confirmed. But,

>think about it for a minute. Is it more likely that they

>live in a safe environment, have health insurance, and are

>charging rates 25% of what they could get, simply out of the

>goodness of their hearts. Or that they simply can't "keep

>it together" long enough to obtain what they would need to

>do so?

>

>Of course $300/200 is a rip-off compared to $40 for more.

>FUCKING DUH. I'm the first one to say how amazed I am at

>the amount of money we make, and I'm not about to try to

>defend it. It's a lot of cash, too much. That's not the

>point. The point is you are taking advantage of other men's

>desperation, and then FUCKING BRAGGING about it. BRAGGING

>about it you arrogant shithead.

>

>I give Marc Anthony a really hard time for "preying" on the

>young, and I stand by it. But at least the

>too-young-for-my-personal-comfort-level escorts he hires are

>more likely to have a home and health insurance, basic

>western necessities (let's face it, an escort pulling in the

>money we pull in would have to be a fucking moron, beyond

>pity, to not have a home or health insurance) instead of the

>hotel rooms Hustlers inefficiently live in and the health

>insurance they could not afford or obtain.

>

>Hiring men for sex is not an unalienable right.

>

>TMBG, Jizzhead et al, these young men are prey, you are

>predators. BACK THE FUCK OFF.

 

Odd, I didn't see you out there helping these "poor" street urchins. You were too busy to be bothered that night?

 

Where oh where to start. Well, you know that forum that Deej keeps telling me I do not have access to anymore, ok lets start there. Without detials I will simply say you should re-read the thread about health insurance. Did most escorts use their cash to buy health insurance as noted in that thread?

 

Do I care about your comfort level? Let me think, NO!

 

Is my other post more of concern to you because the young man I picked up works down the street from you? Let me see I am on my way to WEHO to meet Rod. On my way I meet this really cool, ego free kid, what should I do? A little too close to home for comfort I guess. I know, next time I meet him I'll bring him by so we can have a threesome Or would you feel better if I take a pic of him, get him a hotmail email address then write a proper review?

 

Rod I don't want to hear the kids problems, anymore, than I want to hear about your father. I pay for a stress free time, not to be your shrink.

 

Except for your personal attacks I agree more or less with your entire post. You won't find any argument from me.

 

I know you're a top but maybe you need a good fuck, as you are a bit uptight

Cheers! Ritchie

[Guest tmbg]

RE: these hustlers are prey, you are predators

 

>

>Jizzlips, I don't have time before QAF to say anything other

>than, "no, you're wrong. I am a malicious person"

>

>Let's get back to YOUNG HUSTLERS.

 

How can we Rod, you are too busy watching QAF -shouldn't you be spending your time in a more productive manner? Oh and I do believe you are a malicious person, so do most the posters here.

 

Cheers! Ritchie

[Guest Charon]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

If you make "too much" money, are you not, in some sense, preying upon your clients? At what price point does it become the client preying upon the escort/hustler?

 

Would these youths lives be better for receiving no money from tricks?

 

I agree that I would not chose to be in their position, but that doesn't mean that they don't get to make their own choices. Many escorts seem to make a good living at what they do. Perhaps these kids standards of living are lower, and they are satisfied. Perhaps they are hell bent on self-destruction and all you can do is admire the glow as they flame out.

 

I wouldn't hire them, but it's not because it's immoral. It's because I don't want to face these things.

 

I hired one once, and he whipped out the crack pipe in the hotel room. I was younger, and more naive then. I didn't throw him out, but the whole thing was surreal and disturbing. His life was fucked, in my mind. Whether I paid him or not, he was messed up, and going to stay that way. I can't see that my engagement with him was likely to alter the course of his life in any meaningful way. But it disturbed me, and I don't care to look into such dark, desolate places of the heart so I haven't gone there again.

 

Lastly, I'm not big on moral relativism, but I find it ironic that a high priced ho is telling somebody it's immoral to hire a cheap ho.

[Guest tmbg]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>Lastly, I'm not big on moral relativism, but I find it

>ironic that a high priced ho is telling somebody it's

>immoral to hire a cheap ho.

 

Very well written charon.

 

Cheers! Ritchie

[Rod Hagen]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>Odd, I didn't see you out there helping these "poor" street

>urchins. You were too busy to be bothered that night?

 

And I'm not going to. I don't contribute to many charitable causes (apart from contributing here, of course). But just because I'm not going to make the effort to help others, doesn't mean I think its Really Cool that users like you make their circumstances worse, AND THEN FUCKING BRAG ABOUT IT.

 

>Where oh where to start. Well, you know that forum that

>Deej keeps telling me I do not have access to anymore, ok

>lets start there. Without detials I will simply say you

>should re-read the thread about health insurance. Did most

>escorts use their cash to buy health insurance as noted in

>that thread?

 

Who taught you how to read? Whoever they were they suck at it. I SAID THAT

1. I don't hold any illusions that escorts are better than Hustlers or vice versa. In fact I said they offer what can be viewed as a better service.

2. I also said that escorts who don't bother to secure a good home and health insurance are idiotic.

 

Were you sleeping during that part Mr. Low Attention Span, or, in greater likelihood, are you just unwilling to address the real problem: you're a chicken hawk and you're making a bad situation worse for some very confused and desperate young men.

 

>

>Do I care about your comfort level? Let me think, NO!

 

and this is relevant, why? I mentioned my comfort level in an entirely differnt context. Again, you're just stalling methinks.

 

 

>Is my other post more of concern to you because the young

>man I picked up works down the street from you? Let me see I

>am on my way to WEHO to meet Rod. On my way I meet this

>really cool, ego free kid, what should I do? A little too

 

It's too bad the "KID" doesn't have a bit of an ego. He'd most likely be doing much better for himself if he did.

 

>close to home for comfort I guess. I know, next time I meet

>him I'll bring him by so we can have a threesome Or would

>you feel better if I take a pic of him, get him a hotmail

>email address then write a proper review?

 

If you do, don't tell me who you are.

 

>Rod I don't want to hear the kids problems, anymore, than I

>want to hear about your father. I pay for a stress free

>time, not to be your shrink.

 

That's exactly what I said, dumbass. And since you aren't going to bother to ask about his life, good or bad, don't presume to tell us how "Lucky" you are to take advantage of someone who's so unlucky. It's just fucked.

 

>Except for your personal attacks I agree more or less with

 

Like this one: Child Molester Wannabe Fucktwit?

 

>your entire post. You won't find any argument from me.

>I know you're a top but maybe you need a good fuck, as you

>are a bit uptight

 

Dude, I get fucked just fine in my personal life, thanks anyway.

 

>Cheers! Ritchie

 

Jeers, Rod.

[guyinsf]

RE: these hustlers are prey, you are predators

 

I don't think Rod is a malicious person. It does seem like his posts have become more argumentative in the past several months, though.

 

I can't remember who posted the comment above about clients preying on escorts because the clients have more money, but that is not a true generalization. I'm sure that I have more money than some of the guys I've hired, but I know I have less money than the guy I hire regularly. I'm not saying that I'm poor, but it isn't only the rich who hire escorts.

[Rod Hagen]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>If you make "too much" money, are you not, in some sense,

>preying upon your clients? At what price point does it

>become the client preying upon the escort/hustler?

 

Well Sharon, I offer discounts to those 25 and under, and almost always have. It's on my webpage, you should do some research before you open your big blowjobGiving mouth, ok?

 

>Would these youths lives be better for receiving no money

>from tricks?

 

YES!

 

>I agree that I would not chose to be in their position, but

>that doesn't mean that they don't get to make their own

>choices.

 

Uh, what bullshit. What you're saying by a careful extension is that if I feel sorry for the housekeepers at the Peninsula because their job sucks, and I do, then I should either make up the room myself, OR get off my highHorse and deal with the fact that not everyone is a millionaire, or even well offf, or even financially secure. NOT. These men are turning their not-yet-ripe rectum's to you because they feel they have to, not because they want to. No, there's no way I can know this with anything near 100% certainty, but I've already laid out why it's more reasonable to assume this than the client's fantasy.

 

>Many escorts seem to make a good living at what

>they do.

 

Very good. Probably too good, as I've said before. Again, do your research dumbshit.

 

>Perhaps these kids standards of living are lower,

>and they are satisfied. Perhaps they are hell bent on

>self-destruction and all you can do is admire the glow as

>they flame out.

 

I can't know for sure. I've never bothered to ask. Have you?

 

>

>I wouldn't hire them, but it's not because it's immoral.

>It's because I don't want to face these things.

>

>I hired one once, and he whipped out the crack pipe in the

>hotel room. I was younger, and more naive then. I didn't

>throw him out, but the whole thing was surreal and

>disturbing. His life was fucked, in my mind. Whether I

>paid him or not, he was messed up, and going to stay that

>way. I can't see that my engagement with him was likely to

>alter the course of his life in any meaningful way. But it

>disturbed me, and I don't care to look into such dark,

>desolate places of the heart so I haven't gone there again.

 

Good for you, and I mean that.

 

>Lastly, I'm not big on moral relativism, but I find it

>ironic that a high priced ho is telling somebody it's

>immoral to hire a cheap ho.

 

I've already run through this. You must have really sucked in college.

[Guest Charon]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>do your research dumbshit.

 

Is this in any way helpful? Do you honestly believe that this is likely to provoke intelligent or useful debate? Do think such witty commentary will cut me to the quick?

 

No, you don't. You're just hoping conversational brutality will win the point for you. Pathetic.

[Rod Hagen]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>Is this in any way helpful? Do you honestly believe that

>this is likely to provoke intelligent or useful debate? Do

>think such witty commentary will cut me to the quick?

 

I'm not trying to be helpful. I've pointed out that you shot your mouth off too quickly, and therefore I want you to be a big man and apologize for being pathetically dim.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: Rod's Post

 

>Whatever the age of the escort (18 or 30), a weathier

>man is hiring someone to engage in some intimate acts that

>the escort would never dream of doing if it weren't for the

>money.

 

I know of many situations where the escort/hooker/pro/ho/whatever

who is providing the sex, is considerably more affluent than the client. Would you then consider that the client is being preyed upon just because he is lonely and starved for a little sexual interaction.

Or would that be considered to be OK in your cut and dried world?

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>Lastly, I'm not big on moral relativism, but I find it

>ironic that a high priced ho is telling somebody it's

>immoral to hire a cheap ho.

 

Thank God somebody finally said it. That's what the whole thread is really about. Rod Hagan is nothing but a fucking hypocrite!

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>Well Sharon, I offer discounts to those 25 and under, and

>almost always have. It's on my webpage, you should do some

>research before you open your big blowjobGiving mouth, ok?

 

I have never read your webpage and don't have the inclination to waste my time as it is probably as convoluted as your original post on this thread.

 

If you offer a discount to guys under 25 it's probably because as an "over the hill hooker" you get your rocks off with younger men. I'm sure it's not out of respect for their limited ability to pay.

 

And what kind of discount is it. Like I said, I haven't read your page but I would bet it probably offers your normal $250. service for a mere $175 or something along those lines. It sure as hell doesn't offer it for $40.

 

You should stop trying to make yourself sound so magnanimous.

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>Were you sleeping during that part Mr. Low Attention Span,

 

>Like this one: Child Molester Wannabe Fucktwit?

 

Wow - you sure know how to prove you are one class act - NOT

 

I wonder why there is a forum you are denied access to?

 

Thunderbuns

[Rod Hagen]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>Wow - you sure know how to prove you are one class act - NOT

 

Never claimed to be.

 

>

>I wonder why there is a forum you are denied access to?

 

No there is not.

[Rod Hagen]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>I have never read your webpage and don't have the

>inclination to waste my time as it is probably as convoluted

>as your original post on this thread.

 

And yet you comment on it. Idiot.

 

>If you offer a discount to guys under 25 it's probably

>because as an "over the hill hooker" you get your rocks off

>with younger men. I'm sure it's not out of respect for their

>limited ability to pay.

 

I do it because I love Fucking Virgins' butts. Often times its the reduced rate that is the clincher they need to go through with it.

 

>And what kind of discount is it.

 

I assume that was a question? My normal rate is $220/hour and $1000/overnight and $1500/24hour. For those 25 and under it's $130/hour and $700/overnight.

 

>You should stop trying to make yourself sound so

>magnanimous.

 

I can't stop what I never started. I am by no means, magnanimous. I am a horny businessman.

[+ deej]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>>I wonder why there is a forum you are denied access to?

>

>No there is not.

 

Yes, there is, technically speaking. The moderators' forum is off limits to you last time I checked. :*

[Rod Hagen]

RE: Rod's Post

 

>I know of many situations where the

>escort/hooker/pro/ho/whatever

>who is providing the sex, is considerably more affluent than

>the client. Would you then consider that the client is

>being preyed upon just because he is lonely and starved for

>a little sexual interaction.

>Or would that be considered to be OK in your cut and dried

>world?

 

Thunderbuns, obviously "JustStarting" is looking at the ESCORT-CLIENT interaction from the usual perspective of a rich guy hiring a poor guy (pretty woman) perspective. He is, afterall, "JustStarting".

 

You are of course, correct, often times the escorts are doing just as well financially, and sometimes even better, than the clients themselves. But how likely is it that the boys on the streets, the boys I'm addressing in this thread, are making more than the men hiring them? Possible, yes, but likely? Nope.

 

it's a given that escorts make a lot for doing little, so let's stop beating that dead horse, ok?

 

But that's really neither here nor their since I think we all agree that the Street Hustlers are being paid a pissy wages for doing lots. So the question is Is it ok to take advantage of lonely desperate almost-children simply because you feel like it?

[Rod Hagen]

RE: TMBG, Jizzhead et al,

 

>Yes, there is, technically speaking. The moderators' forum

>is off limits to you last time I checked. :*

 

Yes yes of course, but that's not what he was refering to.