Another fearful thing to ponder

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

I wonder if there are any escorts out there that actually are on some form of controlled substance when having sex with you? How would you know???

 

Would you feel comfortable enough just with the words, "no I dont use drugs." Is that enough?

 

Should we pee test our escorts when they walk in to make sure they are not on any controlled substances?

 

Should we do blood testing to make sure they are STD free? Or do we just accept a simple "I am std free". IS that enough?

 

Just trying to open some peoples minds is all

[Guest regulation]

I can certainly understand why clients would like to know whether an escort they hire has HIV or another STD. I am not sure why they would care whether an escort they hire uses drugs, unless it affects his performance.

 

I think the point you are making can be summed up by saying that anyone who hires an escort is taking some very serious risks and that he can't rely on the escort to be truthful with him about those risks. Is there anything else that needs to be said?

[Will]

Regulation is right that meeting an escort, especially for the first time, is a risk. But it's also a risk for the escort. And there are lots of other kinds of risks involved with meeting someone for the first time -- a psychotherapist or a physician, for example. That said, I do have some standards, for want of a better term, which is why I use this site.

 

First, there are all kinds of controlled substances. I take one myself, prescribed by my doctor for medical reasons; and, so far as I'm able to determine, it doesn't affect my behavior in any way at all. I think what you're talking about are mood- or mind-altering drugs whose specific purpose is to alter one's state of consciousness for the purpose of either heightened or dulled experience. You're talking about what is euphemistically called "recreational" drugs, aren't you?

 

I myself don't want anything to do with that kind of "controlled substance," and I do not want to be in the company of someone who is using them. By that, I mean that I don't even want to be in the same group with somebody who's on drugs, let alone in the same bed.

 

If an escort showed up who was obviously affected by drugs or alcohol -- obviously to me, that is -- I would terminate the appointment immediately. If I can't tell (and there is one occasion when I think the escort probably had snorted a little crystal meth, but I wasn't sure and therefore it didn't matter), that's another matter altogether.

 

The more complex question, for me, is what a non-using escort does when he turns out to be with a client who's big on "partying" (one of the most bizarre uses of that word I can imagine). The client, after all, can simply walk away. I suppose the escort can as well, but I imagine it would be more difficult.

 

For me, the bottom line is: no intoxication of any kind, for any reason, at any time.

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

I am making a point of this. It amazes me when a person in this industry is upfront open and honest about what his situation is, it becomes a moral issue for me to quit. If I or someone else was found out later, it was well what did you expect, he was an escort. Lets be frank boys. What moral issues or obligations does an escort, hustler or for that matter prostitute have to another person that is paying him for sex?

 

I choose to be honest with people about my status and get mowed down by people out of ignorance, fear and just plain stupidity. Please tell me the client that comes into town for 6 days and hires 8 boys is thinking of his health or if he will catch something from each and everytime he encounters a new sexual partner.

 

Lets cover the "standards" issue. YOUR HIRING A HOOKER. Yes you should get what you want for the money you spend, but as I have heard so many times here before. YOUR HIRING A HOOKER

[Guest tmbg]

>I can certainly understand why clients would like to know

>whether an escort they hire has HIV or another STD. I am

>not sure why they would care whether an escort they hire

>uses drugs, unless it affects his performance.

>

>I think the point you are making can be summed up by saying

>that anyone who hires an escort is taking some very serious

>risks and that he can't rely on the escort to be truthful

>with him about those risks. Is there anything else that

>needs to be said?

 

Regulation I feel you stated the above well. I would add the same can apply to clients.

 

People on both sides need to be honest. Sadly this is not the case. Therefore, clients and escorts must be alert to any red flags.

 

Cheers! Ritchie

[Guest tmbg]

>I am making a point of this. It amazes me when a person in

>this industry is upfront open and honest about what his

>situation is, it becomes a moral issue for me to quit. If I

>or someone else was found out later, it was well what did

>you expect, he was an escort. Lets be frank boys. What moral

>issues or obligations does an escort, hustler or for that

>matter prostitute have to another person that is paying him

>for sex?

>

 

Your question rings empty.

 

What morality should the kid at Burger King use when you ask if the fries have been in that bin for 2 hours? I see no difference if you use the assumption that the escort is not a street hustler and is in business. The obligation of any business is to honestly and appropriately serve its consumers.

 

Escorts on this site write often about what seperates them from a street hustler, I still see little difference. The moral street hustler will be just as honest as the moral escort.

 

Cheers! Ritchie

[Guest jeffOH]

I don't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes, but I do smoke pot. A hit or two off the bong is a great relaxer and always helps me get horned up for a client. Moderation is the key. Something I wasn't familiar with when I was drinking.

 

I do know an escort who does not drink, smoke or do any recreational drugs of any sort. He doesn't mind if a client is partying as long as they are not fucked up out of their mind.

 

It shouldn't be an issue as long as it's not affecting the escort's performance.

 

JEFF

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[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

Um I think I stated that two lines down from where you stopped reading

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

Oh well there you go,

 

We do have conservative, wholesome, straight laced boys you would want to meet your parents out there with ethics that are selling their bodies and sex for money.

 

How dumb of me not to have known

[Bilbo]

There are two reasons why a person might worry about whether his sex partner is on recreational drugs that haven't been mentioned. A. If this happens to be a leather scene, it has a bad effect on the safety of the situation, whether it is the top or the bottom whose perceptions are altered. But, for me, there's mostly B. There are some people, myself included, whose bodies have such trouble handling some of these drugs that just French kissing a person high on them can transfer enough in the saliva to adversely affect us. The first time that this happened to me I was taken so by surprise by it that I had to stop in a park and roll around some on the grass by myself to get rid of the disorientation enough to be able to safely drive myself home.

(And I can remember another time when I wish I had known what was happening when a client forgot to take his heart meds before a session and alarmed me with his physical reactions to my ministrations. He did tell me not to worry, and sent my paranoid butt home, and I have seen him aroung the community since, thank Goodness.)

[Will]

Michael, why are you acting like this? You started a thread that is timely and interesting; you asked for responses. Every response has, in one way or another, applauded you for introducing the topic.

 

Even so, you have taken offense at each reply, as though all of this were somehow about you. The same thing is going on in the other thread, in which you announce your return to escorting.

 

As far as I can see, everybody who has posted on these two threads has extended a hand of support and friendship to you. But you seem to regard them as threats or offenses. It makes me wonder if you really feel as well as you say you do, emotionally, anyhow.

 

Maybe you'd consider offering Jeff and others a sort of apology.

[Guest regulation]

>I am making a point of this. It amazes me when a person in

>this industry is upfront open and honest about what his

>situation is, it becomes a moral issue for me to quit. If I

>or someone else was found out later, it was well what did

>you expect, he was an escort. Lets be frank boys. What moral

>issues or obligations does an escort, hustler or for that

>matter prostitute have to another person that is paying him

>for sex?

 

 

The last time there was a thread about the issue of whether HIV+ escorts should disclose their status to clients, someone said the whole question is ridiculous -- since escorts can't be counted on to tell the truth about things like their age and dick size, he said, how realistic is it to expect them to be honest about their HIV status? Do you agree with this?

 

>I choose to be honest with people about my status and get

>mowed down by people out of ignorance, fear and just plain

>stupidity. Please tell me the client that comes into town

>for 6 days and hires 8 boys is thinking of his health or if

>he will catch something from each and everytime he

>encounters a new sexual partner.

 

When you say you choose to be honest, does that mean you make a point of disclosing your status to each client before you accept an appointment with him? If not, why not?

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

I dont mean to be obnoxious to the boys and please forgive me if I appear to be. This thread was more of a slap humor than anything. And I guess it is more of an issue than realised. Thanks for the response

[Guest Merlin]

I once hired a young escort whose eyes were very glassy although he acted normally. And I have hired two bodybuilder escorts who had an overall red flush. I asked one of the latter and he said he was using anabolic steroids, but I was not convinced. In all three instances I wondered if the symptoms indicated medications or some combination of meds and steroids for the treatment of HIV. I was careful to use "safer" sex but I would not knowingly have sex with someone I knew to be positive.

[bluenix]

I know what you mean. One time I was waiting for a bus, which was late. When it arrived, the driver acted normally, yet when I asked him why he was late he responded that he was just running a little behind schedule. But I wondered if he was late because the true bus driver had been stabbed to death and he was a replacement, trying to cover up the incident. I was careful to ride toward the back, near the door, because I would not knowingly ride a bus driven by a possible murderer.

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

Someone finally gets my humor in this post