Review Format Suggestions (New)

[Guy Fawkes]

Layout Suggestion (P2)

 

(Originally from "random")

 

Photos should be at top left of review and the Name / City / Contact Info / Stats stacked to the right of the picture.

 

Recently, HooBoy has been verifying escort stats. I don't think they need to be restated in every review.

 

If someone notices a huge change from verified stats then he can mention that in his editorial comments.

 

Escort information will be seperate from review information. Escorts will be able to update their information, but not review information.

[Guy Fawkes]

Hair Color (p4)

 

(Orignally from "ncm2169")

Regarding hair color. Include something that allows for highlights. For example, I just submitted a Review for an escort who has brown hair with blond highlights. Lots of guys these days have highlights in their hair.

 

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]Hard to implement, and I want this to be one of fields used for searching. I'd rather to limit choices to a fewer selections to that end.[/font]

[Guy Fawkes]

Provide upload cability (p3)

 

(Originally from "ncm2169")

Specific suggestion: Provide instructions for how to include the escort's pic with the review.

 

When I submitted my newest review yesterday, I couldn't find any mention of this on the Review form, so I sent it in a separate email to HB. If it's in the FAQ's, I apologize, but it would be more user-friendly if it were somewhere on the Review form.

 

[font color="blue"

]An upload function is planned for the database version. Current system simply doesn't have the approriate security.[/font]

[Guy Fawkes]

Escorts can control their own information (p2)

 

(Orginally from "Tampa Yankee")

Tried to post down below but got error message repeatedly. <shrug>

 

 

>Recently, HooBoy has been verifying escort stats. I don't

>think they need to be restated in every review.

>

>If someone notices a huge change from verified stats then he

>can mention that in his editorial comments.

>

Stats are probably the most important aspect of a review or as important as services and performance.

Verified stats are not 'verified' by sight but through phone/email --thus not really verified but presented by the escort for his purposes, which may be honest and accurate or not.

Stats ought to be proactively provided by each reviewer. Provides for common format, location in review, and any number of other reasons.

I think is proposal is a nonstarter for the great many who read reviews. well, that's my opinion.

 

 

[font color="blue"

]But that's the point, I want the Escorts to be in control of their information. If there's a decrepency...It'll rapidly show up in the reviews, because people are prompted by the two specific quesions, and will put their thoughts in the "Experience" portion of the review. The concept is that the Escort updates if he wants, Hooboy approves the changes, and it goes up. Obviously, the Work Flow analysis needs to be done, and it'll have to be fine tuned (i.e. Not all escorts are on the internet).[/blue]

[Guy Fawkes]

Preview Capability before submit (P2)

 

(Originally from "Tampa Yankee")

Every time I submit I wish I had the option of previewing the review before submittal. On a couple of occasions I would have caught some screw ups. The submittal form is hard to scan for bugs.. for me anyway. :o

 

[font color="Blue"

]Agreed. This is major reason that we want to go the DB version. It gives us the ability in secure manner have the Escorts be able to update their information, The reviewers to update their Information and/or to update reviews that they've submitted. All would of course be subject to review by Hooboy before being published.

 

I'm considering a simplified version for the current email system. But I'm loath to put the work on it, as the plans are for the email version to go away.[/font]

[Guy Fawkes]

Rating Reviews (p3)

 

(Originally from "Tampa Yankee")

In line with a recent thread I initiated regarding reviews with little information content...

 

The capability to rate a review would be very welcome as would placing this quality indicator at the very top of the review.

 

Another 'nice-to-have' capability would be a 'skip-to-next-review' button to bypass poorly rated reviews.

 

[font color="Blue"

]I am considering something simular. I have enough information to create a "Objective" score for an escort instead "Subjective" rating that the Message Center uses.

 

My initial thoughts are "Positive" reviews from last year raise the rating. "Negative" reviews from the last 6 months lower the rating.

I think that biasing the time periods allows the occassional "We didn't click" reviews to factor out. This also creates an incentive (assuming that it's important to the escort) for Escorts to have a chance to respond/improve their performance.

 

By limiting the time period, we get a better view of their current performance and escorts that have dropped out of sight, tend to silently go away. Comments from all welcome on this one. This one requires a lot of thought to be fair and unbiased.

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[Guy Fawkes]

RE: Rating Reviews (p3)

 

(Orginally from "random")

daddy, I feel the best way to base a objective rating for each escort is as follows:

 

- the score should be reflective a a rolling 12 month period. older reviews need not be taken into consideration. people change for the worse AND the better.

 

- the score should be based on specific aspects of the review *including* the reviewers credibility.

 

- the score should also be built based on how many reviews each reviewer within the rolling 12 month period has done. example: an escort with 10 reviews 9 done by first time reviewers would have a lower rating than an escort with 10 reviews with 7 done by first time reviewers and 3 done by reviewers with more than one review.

 

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]I like the idea...But it may be difficult to implement the reviewer bias...Will think about it.[/font]

[Guy Fawkes]

RE: Rating Reviews (p3)

 

(Originally from "Tampa Yankee")

>- the score should be reflective a a rolling 12 month period.

>older reviews need not be taken into consideration. people

>change for the worse AND the better.

 

I think the 12 month time frame is too short -- 18 months would b e better. If I see an escort inactive for longer I view him as no longer in the business and wouldn't miss their reviews.

 

>- the score should also be built based on how many reviews

>each reviewer within the rolling 12 month period has done.

>example: an escort with 10 reviews 9 done by first time

>reviewers would have a lower rating than an escort with 10

>reviews with 7 done by first time reviewers and 3 done by

>reviewers with more than one review.

 

Don't think reviewer should be subjected to 12 month or any period for that matter. A 5 time reviewer that hasn't contributed for a year would not be considered. An activity period makes since for escorts since they are passive components to the reviews and it likely reflects they are no longer active in the community. Review submittals are proactive so the reviewer is, prima facie, active in the community. I don't think a period between reviews indicates that he needs to be 'vetted' again..

[Guy Fawkes]

RE: Rating Reviews (p3)

 

(Originally from "Rick Monroe")

>By limiting the time period, we get a better view of their

>current performance and escorts that have dropped out of

>sight, tend to silently go away. Comments from all welcome on

>this one. This one requires a lot of thought to be fair and

>unbiased.

 

What about those of us who have a zillion reviews, and no one submits a new one because they feel like it's all been said before? When, out of curiosity, I've asked guys who've hired me a few times why they never wrote a review, they usually say something like "because it would be the same as review #13, #22, #38...".

[Guy Fawkes]

Linking to other reviewer's reviews (p3)

 

(Originally from "JT")

At the end of a review, the reviewer is asked to indicate which other escorts he has written a review for. In the old format, those escorts' names were linked to their reviews that made it very easy for people to look them up. However, the new format so far does not seem to have this feature.

 

[font color="Blue"

]Actually that's a Hooboy function right now. For the DB version, it's apart of the plan.[/font]

[Guy Fawkes]

Font Colors (P4)

 

(Originally from "Huey")

Daddy a way to assist in highlighting the different sections might be font colors.

 

I suggest using one color for the question (i.e. Location) and another color for the answer.

 

[font color="Blue"

]What your currently seeing in the reviews is the email version, and I don't have control over the font colors. In the DB version the format will be much easier to read, and your suggestion will be an important part of the look.[/font]

[Guy Fawkes]

Phone Number Formats (P3)

 

(Originally from "trescho75")

It is tough for non US residents to post a phone number with the US format.

 

[font color="Blue"

]The problem is that there is no universal format for phone numbers so the current validator is a compromise. It allows an optional "+" at the front, digits, spaces, dashs, and parens. i.e.

 

(555) 555-5555 or

+01-555-55-5555

 

This is a tricky problem and we'll need to revisit it. I am very open to specific examples of how to clue people in. Comments (expecially people outside the USA/Canada) are welcome. [/font]

[Guy Fawkes]

Prompt for Review Date (Done)

 

(Orginally from "Deej")

Daddy,

 

The newest review form expects a date in the format "03/2003" (for example) but it doesn't tell you that until you try to submit.

 

Can you add some form of onscreen hint, as you've done with so many other fields?

 

Dates will be particularly problematic because 1) you're not really asking for a date -- just month/year, and 2) anyone outside the US will likely expect to input the year first.

 

An onscreen prompt would help a lot.

[Guy Fawkes]

Age Ranges (P1)

 

(Orginally from "ncm2169")

Daddy, I recently started a thread in the Lounge over the issue of the new age range by decade. From the reply posts, NO ONE likes it.

 

The best suggestion seems to be (a) giving the escort's stated age and (b) the reviewer giving his impression of the escort's age.

 

What's being done on this? Is there any hope of ending up with something besides the age-by-decade deal? If not, please tell us why.

 

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]The problem is that if you give people a free-form age field, you get the most amazing answers. A large percentage of which are not useful in the database (i.e. "about 25-27" or "I don't have the slightest idea"). I want to be able to use "age" as a search field so we need well defined ages.

 

Using a drop down forces a reasonable answer, even if its "Unknown". Then we have to balance being reasonable versus being easy to use. Putting 32 ages in the drop down won't fit in most people browsers, and scrolling them can become tedious.

 

Rearranging the ranges is fairly easy, and I've just finished an analysis of the existing reviews. Hoo and I are thrashing out the details.

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[Guy Fawkes]

RE: Age Ranges (P1)

 

(Originally from "bottomboykk")

The simplest solution is to use an open field, but use form validation to prevent answers that screw things up. With validation, somebody can enter 25, but not 25-27, nor any words at all.

 

Unfortunately a significant portion of the reviewers want to put in something along the lines of "about 25-27". Which indicates that they're unsure of the answer.

 

We're still debating this one. Current thougts are along the lines of changing the label to indicate "Best Estimate", require a specific age in the range 18-99. We're still banging out the details because of side issues.

[Uncle Bill]

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[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: Review Format Suggestions for Activity Info (P2)

 

My concern is not with the form per se but with how it translates into the formatted review. Currently if the specific activity is unknown or NA (I don't know for which of if both) then the activity category does not appear in the review. Thus I find my self searching to find the kissing or anal activity when it doesn't exist. I'd prefer to see the category listed with either unknown or NA next to it. It would save me time and a little aggrivation.

 

Agreed......Daddy

[Guy Fawkes]

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[Huey]

RE: Age Ranges (P1)

 

>(Orginally from "ncm2169")

>Daddy, I recently started a thread in the Lounge over the

>issue of the new age range by decade. From the reply posts,

>NO ONE likes it.

>

>Rearranging the ranges is fairly easy, and I've just finished

>an analysis of the existing reviews. Hoo and I are thrashing

>out the details.

>[/font]

 

HooBoy is seen in this rare photo placing Daddy in an arm-lock as they "thrash" things out

 

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[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: Font Colors (P4)

 

Before you pour any concrete, take into consideration that some are color impaired. I have a difficult time separating some colors from the background depending on the specific colors, eg. yellow against white. This will vary among those who are color impaired. Black against white seems to ba a universal solution.

 

Yes, Sir! The master plan is to have themes and one of them will be tailored for people with color problems.

[Guy Fawkes]

RE: Age Ranges (P1)

 

<Smile> Bitch! How dare you put something that causes me to ROTFL on my To-Do List! <Chuckle> Thanks, Sweetheart! It really made my day!.

 

<Blush> I'll even let it survive a week or so <Blush>

[Guy Fawkes]

Gentlemen,

 

Thank-you for your comments, I'm grateful for them. Do understand that I will be incorporating a lot of the changes as I have time.

 

The important thing is that I don't have the luxury of the time to respond to each of your comments in any other forum but this thread. This is the only place that I will respond and/or consider these type of comments. Doing it elsewhere, will be ignored and/or deleted.

 

I will track this thread, and will use it as a supplemental To-Do list. As such, I will delete and/or edit messages so that I can use it that way.

How can you help?[ul]

[li]Make Short Specific Suggestions. One suggestion per message. Make sure that the subject line reflects the suggestion.[/li][li]Don't flood the Thread. If something you like is already up, then leave it alone. I don't need or want a hundred comments of "I agree".[/li]

[li]Don't flame. If you don't agree, then put up your own suggestion.[/li]

[li]Don't Distract. Lose the barbs, Lose the humor, Take it somewhere else.[/li]

[li]Don't Amplify. If I ask a question, assume that it's for the author, unless I ask for more input.[/li]

[li]Don't Whine. If it's still on the thread, it's because I'm tracking it and only a crystal ball will useful for when it gets implemented. If it goes away, it's probably not going to happen.[/li]

[/ul]

In general, yes I know that it's currently ugly. That was the point of the entire project. I'm architecting a database version that will be secure, flexible, and much easier to use. Since this is a lengthy process, it has to be done in such a way that Hooboy can continue business as usual while the database development happens. As such, I'd rather put the development time on the database version than the nit-picks on the email based system.

 

The T-Shirt that I'm wearing today says:

"I can only please

one person each day.

TODAY IS NOT YOUR DAY.

Tommorrow doesn't look good either."

Thank-you for your patience and understanding.

[Guest YFSC]

Daddy: From a thread in the Lounge...

 

Regarding the format of the stats/data in the reviews, some of it leads to confusion and misinterpretation because of the spacing.

 

In this instance jack was confused and posted a question, and I responded. And it includes a suggestion for a formatting change.

 

#59914, "RE: ICQ ??/ and French Masturbation"

In response to Reply # 8

 

>Since we're talking shop, its a perfect place for me, who did

>not suck my first cock yesterday, to ask, in the Escort

>Description line of a review, what does French Masturbation

>mean (can you do that here or only in Paris or on Paris or

>does Paris do it to you?), and what are some of those other

>popular descriptions of kissing and anal etc., mean. Have I

>been missing a lot of fun with cum on my tongue anyway?

>

>Thanks in advance, trust me.

 

Sorry to pop the bubble of your fantasy, but happy to reassure you that you have not been missing out

on anything. "French Masturbation" in the reviews is not "French Masturbation," it's "Kissing: French"

"Masturbation: Xxxxxxx."

 

There are several such unintended combinations that develop in the "new" review format because of

the spacing in the final form of the review, wih the :-plus-space being much larger than the space

before the next item. For example, another review seems to be offering "Bi Masturbation," "Both Anal"

(how many assholes does the guy have?), and "Top Oral" (maybe a comment on the quality of the

oral). The powers that be should really do something about that.