How about this New Hottie in Philly

[CastAway]

And if my opinion is worth anything, I feel very strongly your affiliated with Premiere, and found this as a cheap avenue to bash your competition. :7

[LovesYng]

>And if my opinion is worth anything, I feel very strongly

>your affiliated with Premiere, and found this as a cheap

>avenue to bash your competition. :7

 

Not unless Premier has a branch office in NYC

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[Txpaytoplay]

Castaway,

 

If you use spell check before you post you may come across as someone with credibility and Joel may increase your score to at least a C-. ;-)

 

Seriously though,

 

If you have been around as long as you have stated, you should know that everyone has an opinion and everyone's experience is going to be different. I have never used an agency, I like contacting directly, so I have no interest in either agency. Hope you have more great experiences with whomever you choose. Now let me close, before I get a grade that I will be distraught over.:7

[LovesYng]

>If you have been around as long as you have stated, you should

>know that everyone has an opinion and everyone's experience is

>going to be different. I have never used an agency, I like

>contacting directly, so I have no interest in either agency.

>Hope you have more great experiences with whomever you choose.

> Now let me close, before I get a grade that I will be

>distraught over.:7

 

B-

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[Guest Fisher]

Paterson

 

joel,

 

I will give you a D in American Poetry. You should

know how to spell Paterson because of the famous poem

"Paterson" by William Carlos Williams, and Paterson

was the birthplace of poet Allen Ginsberg.

 

who let themselves be fucked in the ass by saintly

motorcyclists, and screamed with joy,

who blew and were blown by those human seraphim,

the sailors, caresses of Atlantic and Caribbean

love,

 

- excerpt from "Howl" by Allen Ginsberg

 

Cheers,

Fisher

[joel304]

IQ adjustment made at the principal's office.

 

>Sorry HONEY, you seem to think you are this old wise one.

 

33, 5'10, 185, 6c, br, bl, loves to take long walks. And, compared to you ... well, there really isn't a comparison.

 

>It's Paterson, NOT Patterson.

 

There's a Patterson, and Paterson, I guess? IQ raised to 67.

http://www.technology-schools.com/new-jersey-nj/west-patterson/

 

>This is exactly why I never get involved with people like you.

 

Get involved in what sense? You've responded three times, and seem very involved, no? I rarely involve myself with someone that lacks a basic grasp of the English language, unless, of course, I'm traveling abroad; but there are exceptions to every rule, I guess.

 

>God forbit you come on here amungst you old fags and say something nice about a very respectful young man.

 

That's no way to make friends. May I suggest a cursory read of "How to Make Friends and Influence People?" Please make spell check a priority as well.

 

>And if it floats your boat to think this is Chris, then go for it.

 

I don't have a boat. I used to have a Bayliner a few years back, but the expenses were through the roof.

 

>I'm sure he wouldn't enjoy spending his time with a pumpous old fag like you anyway.

 

Speaking about yourself in the third person is, well, just wrong.

[joel304]

>And if my opinion is worth anything

 

It really isn't

 

>I feel very strongly your affiliated with Premiere, and found this as a cheap avenue to bash your competition. :7

 

Read (if you can) some of my posts. I assure you that I'm not.

 

 

"They continue to bring us up over here when a thread dies down, because otherwise they are subjected to OneFinger's insidiously inane postings about sheep and ice cream scoops" Courtesy of BewareofNick

[luvtwink]

Hi Chris - or whoever.....

The boys are really cute on the site. Lets just see how the reviews go.

[CastAway]

Ok, now I see why you do this, it's actually very stimulating....

 

And it's West Paterson, NOT West Patterson.

 

Both are in Passaic County, NOT Pasaic County

 

And my Stats: 35 y/o, 170 lbs, Gay Male, retired!!!! With a 27 Y/O Husband, who is hot. (eat your hearts out ladies)

 

So why do I use Escorts? Cause I can efford to, and I enjoy diversity in my life, that's why our relationship works so well.

 

Can I type well, hell no!

[CastAway]

Also, I use Valley Boys because you can talk directly to the guys, right from the get go. From what I was told by Anthony, they only monitor the new guys emails for a month or so to ensure they do not get themselves in legal trouble, and mislead us (Clients).

[joel304]

>Also, I use Valley Boys because you can talk directly to the

>guys, right from the get go. From what I was told by Anthony,

>they only monitor the new guys emails for a month or so to

>ensure they do not get themselves in legal trouble, and

>mislead us (Clients).

 

Fist off, you've improved your writing composition to a C, and your grammar to a C-. Congratulations! The "small bus" often serves as motivation.

 

Secondly, it's more apparent than ever that you represent http://www.valleyboyescorts.com

 

"What on earth gave you the idea that I want to hear the story of your life?Save it for someone who cares -- if you can find such a person." All rights to Woodlawn

[joel304]

>Ok, now I see why you do this, it's actually very stimulating....

 

I think you meant to say entertaining? Minus 2 points.

 

>And it's West Paterson, NOT West Patterson

 

You're probably right there. I'm confused as to why there are two spellings out there though. Did your mother write your address on your undies? This could explain why Patterson is among the 10% of words that you spell correctly. That and "Bob" ... Works both ways though, so not really a test there.

 

>And my Stats: 35 y/o, 170 lbs, Gay Male, retired!!!! With a

27 Y/O Husband, who is hot. (eat your hearts out ladies)

 

Are your pants on fire? If he's so hot, why are you buying up the Valley Boys like blouses at a "one day sale" at Barney's? Retired? Liar!

 

>So why do I use Escorts? Cause I can efford to

 

I don't see how you can "efford" your morning Jack in the Box Bob. I can't imagine where you've found employment.

 

 

"What on earth gave you the idea that I want to hear the story of your life?Save it for someone who cares -- if you can find such a person." All rights to Woodlawn

[Guest rover]

ugh...nasty, vindictive thread here

 

Anyway, I've contacted and chatted online with Chris and my impression is that he's enthusiastic and a bit high on himself given all the attention he's rightfully getting. There were a few off-putting comments about things he won't do unless he's booked overnight. I'm not one for lists of do's and don'ts upfront so I probably won't be seeing him since I have other equally hot options back in the Philly area. He immediately offered to negotiate once he heard my stats so we'll see if my lust overcomes my logic, lol! He really is a hot boi, though, and I love that pic of him in the jeans with the white leather belt.

[joel304]

I asked about an overnight. He stated that NYC is a hassel (sic) and that he "NEVER" bottoms. His ad advertises the opposite on both subjects. I agree, he's cute; but he's presenting himself as an escort in his ad, and acting like a street hooker in his emails. Cuteness never overcomes lying and deceit, at least when you're talking about an overnight. The prospect of 8-12 hours with this gentleman makes me shudder.

 

"What on earth gave you the idea that I want to hear the story of your life? Save it for someone who cares -- if you can find such a person." All rights to Woodlawn

[skins1]

Great. now all this chit chat about him and he went and bumped his rate to $300/hour. "rates specific to chris" it says. well, for that, you can have him.

[LovesYng]

I guess Chris has been taking lessons from one of our famous (sick) escorts on here. Next he will charge $2000.00 for a weekend

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[joel304]

>Great. now all this chit chat about him and he went and

>bumped his rate to $300/hour. "rates specific to chris" it

>says. well, for that, you can have him.

 

What in this post suggests raising rates? He truly is misguided. http://www.craigslist.org

[CastAway]

Does anyone have an opinion on Premere Escorts?

 

I used one of their escorts, Kyle, and after our first meeting, he wanted me to contact him directly for appointments, I am assuming to prevent his bosses from getting their cut. Then all of the sudden he was off Premere and then showed up on Valley Boys, and now he is off that site. Anyone know what's up with all that?

[Txpaytoplay]

You have probably answered your own question. If this escort talked to you about contacting him directly he probably spoke with other clients as well and one of them might have spoken with the agencies. I don't have a chrystal ball....but it makes as good of sense as anything else.

[Guest YFSC]

RE: Give the kid his due...

 

I agree that this guy is obviously from that website. Maybe not Chris. Maybe one of the other guys or maybe the (one of the?) organizer(s)/proprietor(s) -- who may well be the guys themselves. The site gives me the feeling that a bunch of kids got together to organize an agency for themselves so they could charge more than what Premier or Paramount would give them, and Castaway sounds like one of them.

 

But the kid is right about one thing, joel: it's Paterson, with one t, and also West Paterson. There is no "Patterson" or "West Patterson" in New Jersey.

 

>>It's Paterson, NOT Patterson.

>

>There's a Patterson, and Paterson, I guess? IQ raised to 67.

>http://www.technology-schools.com/new-jersey-nj/west-patterson/

 

Apparently the vaunted http://www.technology-schools.com, which seems to be just a search engine for finding technology schools and clearly is not in Paterson, doesn't know how to spell (West) Paterson, either. After all, they are the ones who put that spelling into the URL and on their website, so it doesn't carry any official stamp of correctness. The state of New Jersey, the city of Paterson, and people and organizations in Paterson are all unanimous in using only one t. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=paterson+nj

[Guest YFSC]

RE: Can you see China yet?

 

>Ok, now I see why you do this, it's actually very

>stimulating....

>

>And it's West Paterson, NOT West Patterson.

>

>Both are in Passaic County, NOT Pasaic County

>

>And my Stats: 35 y/o, 170 lbs, Gay Male, retired!!!! With a

>27 Y/O Husband, who is hot. (eat your hearts out ladies)

>

>So why do I use Escorts? Cause I can efford to, and I enjoy

>diversity in my life, that's why our relationship works so

>well.

>

>Can I type well, hell no!

 

 

Kid, you're just digging the hole deeper. :+

 

Give it a rest.

[CastAway]

RE: Give the kid his due...

 

Well you're off base on thinking I'm one of the kids. I'm not... So Sorry

 

Also, a comment was made that they are run-a-ways from another agency or two in Philly, but I know the faces of the boys from these Philly site you referred to, and as far as I can see, none of them have ever been on them, beside the kid named Kyle. Although, I have seen some of them on the M4RN site from time to time. Plus, most of them are from the Allentown area going by the site info.

 

I had mentioned before that I spent time with Chris, and he was very hot, but NOT $300 hot. That's just too much money for around here. I am actually retired, mostly due to an inheritance I received last year.

 

I notice on the Valley Boy site though that there is a phone number, why don't you call them and ask them your questions yourself. I used it to talk to what I assume was the administrator, whom seemed to be an older gentleman, about his thought on two of the boys I was interested in. He seemed to be a nice of sorts, he was able to answer my questions although I felt a bit rushed when talking to him. I did forward this link to the info page on their site so they can see what is being said about them, just thought they should know. I personally have used them a few times, and enjoyed every moment. I will however reiterate, $300, way to much!!! Even I will not go there at that price.

 

I'll leave you all to your little group now, and sorry for interfering in your mundane lives. You all seem to be a close nit group, and I may have errored by voicing my lone opinion on here. I thought this was an open forum, I guess I was wrong. Boredom most have set in with me.

[Guest YFSC]

RE: Gimme, Gimme, Gimme...

 

>Great. now all this chit chat about him and he went and

>bumped his rate to $300/hour. "rates specific to chris" it

>says. well, for that, you can have him.

 

Yeah. I noticed that too.

The agency is overpriced to begin with, given its location and the surrounding competition. But then they (or Chris) go and increase his rate even more, just because he got noticed on this site. Bad move. An increase may be justified when a guy gets some experience and a track record with good reviews. But it's childish and unprofessional to do it after a couple of weeks and without any hard evidence, just because the kid got noticed here and is the subject of a thread. And it will turn out to be counterproductive.

 

Reminds me of several other cases that we saw here before. One in particular that I remember was a guy who eventually became very well known and well liked here, and had a top notch reputation. But this was when he was unknown and just getting started. He got a review on this site, not just a thread about him. His rate was originally listed on his website as $150. He was hot and then there was a second review 10 days or maybe 2 weeks later. The rate on his website immediately shot up to $250. And keep in mind that this was several years ago, and he was not in one of the high-rate major metropolitan areas. *That* provoked a thread here, and within a couple of days the rate on the website was back down to $175. Eventually, after a while and after he had some more solid reviews and had built up a reputation, the rate crept up to $200, where it stayed.

[Guest YFSC]

RE: Give the kid his due...

 

>Also, a comment was made that they are run-a-ways from another

>agency or two in Philly, but I know the faces of the boys from

>these Philly site you referred to, and as far as I can see,

>none of them have ever been on them, beside the kid named

>Kyle.

 

I didn't say that they were runaways from the other agencies. I too know who those agencies have, both now and in the past few years. But Kyle certainly did work at Premier, for more than one period of time. I can attest to that from personal experience.

 

I said

> > The site gives me the feeling that a bunch of kids got together to

> > organize an agency for themselves so they could charge more than

> > what Premier or Paramount would give them,

That could be guys who left Premier or Paramount, or it could be guys who never worked at P or P and just wanted to be able to charge more than what they would be able to get at P or P.

 

>Plus, most of them are from the Allentown area

>going by the site info.

 

That could well be. Though both P and P say they serve the Lehigh Valley and A-B-E area too, and Kyle is not from there.

 

>I had mentioned before that I spent time with Chris, and he

>was very hot, but NOT $300 hot. That's just too much money for

>around here.

 

You're right on with that. Too high for the area and too high for someone with no track record and credentials. Even their original $250 is too high for the area and no track record.

 

>I'll leave you all to your little group now, and sorry for

>interfering in your mundane lives. You all seem to be a close

>nit group, and I may have errored by voicing my lone opinion

>on here. I thought this was an open forum,

 

It is, but if you want to stay in the kitchen, you need to be able to stand the heat. (With credit to HST.)

[joel304]

>Does anyone have an opinion on Premere Escorts?

>

>I used one of their escorts, Kyle, and after our first

>meeting, he wanted me to contact him directly for

>appointments, I am assuming to prevent his bosses from getting

>their cut. Then all of the sudden he was off Premere and then

>showed up on Valley Boys, and now he is off that site. Anyone

>know what's up with all that?

 

Chris, please stop! It's obvious, to anyone over 7 years, what you're doing. You're doing nothing to help yourself here.