Fin Fang Foom on Mark Dalton's Response

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

I'll cut to the chase - I don't buy it. Nope. Uh uh. Nah. Sorry Charlie. No way Jose.

 

Let's parse his response, shall we?

 

thank you hoo boy for the opportunity to respond. i find myself angry at having to defend something that never happened. i have never had a client leave me 50 bucks and walk out. i have never emailed someone and asked them for more money in a situation that is

described in this review.

 

First off, I'll ignore the fact that he never begins a sentence with a capital letter and move on to the meat of things. He doesn't say that he didn't meet this guy. Rather, he says that two of the events that the reviewer claimed occurred, didn't happen.

 

i have had a messy room,

 

This gibes with what the reviewer said.

 

i have had to take a call before with a

client but it has only been very very important calls and it has only

happened a few times.

 

We all know what constitutes an "important" call and we know how often those happen in the course our work day. Mr. Dalton has made a point in saying that he only takes "very very important calls" and it has happened "a few times". Now I ask you ladies and gentleman, what can possibly be going on in a prostitute's life that is so "very very important" that these "very very important calls" just HAPPEN to occur in that one-hour window that he's with a client?

 

Unless you're waiting to be notified that they've found a proper liver donor for you, you turn off your fucking cellphone while you're with a client. Period. I refuse to believe that Mark Dalton's life is going to crash and burn if he doesn't take one of his "very very important calls". At $250/hr, the client is more important that any fucking call.

 

For those of us out of our 20's, we've heard ALL the lines: "Let me call you right back", "I overslept", "I lost your number", "I didn't have your number with me", "I got called into a meeting", "I can't talk right now, I've got someone on the other line and it's very important", "I can't talk right now, I've got someone on the other line and it's very very important", etc. IMHO, Mr. Dalton, was using this "very very important" call as an excuse to get away from the guy who was paying him $4.16 A MINUTE for "his time".

 

lastly, my best friend in the entire world, the

person who i owe everything i have to....... is gay and i love him as

the best friend and best human i have ever known

 

This is the "even some of my best friends are black" defense. Try something new Mark, we've all heard this one. (Also, how does he differentiate between friends and humans?)

 

and i would never use the word queer or fag in a negative fashion as i would never want to hurt him.

 

He's asking us to believe that he's a straight guy from TEXAS who would never use the words "queer" or "fag" in a "negative fashion". I would like to ask Mr. Dalton: "Out of curiosity, as a 'straight' man who works as a prostitute for gay men, could you please give us three examples of how you personally use the words 'queer' and 'fag' in a POSITIVE fashion?" Inquiring minds would like to know.

 

the situation described in the email never happened.

 

Once again, the "situation" never happened. Very curious. Not "I don't know who the hell this guy is and it's all a bunch of lies" but rather some of what he says is correct but the "situation" isn't.

 

In my first post on this review, I said that the review "feels right" and it still does. I can just see it: he's lying there with the client and his phone rings and he jumps off the bed because he's expecting a "very very important" call, he goes into the bathroom, shuts the door, and it's one of his "straight" buddies who asks "what's up?" and he tells his buddy that he's "with a queer" and the buddy groans or laughs on the other end.

 

Let me tell you a little secret guys: most of these "straight" guys have both contempt for themselves because they aren't comfortable with their conflicting sexual urges and they have contempt for you. These "straight" queens who allow "muscle worship" (a big piece of snore pie with yawn sauce) don't like you because they don't like themselves. You may think it's "hot" but, deep down, it's not. These guys are pathetic and to them, you're just another "queer" who likes pawing them.

 

Think about that the next time you've got your pants around your ankles while you're jerking off and feeling up his arms as he's "posing" for you. I bet it'll make you feel really sexy.

 

Helpfully yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

I'll cut to the chase - I don't buy it. Nope. Uh uh. Nah. Sorry Charlie. No way Jose.

 

Let's parse his response, shall we?

 

thank you hoo boy for the opportunity to respond. i find myself angry at having to defend something that never happened. i have never had a client leave me 50 bucks and walk out. i have never emailed someone and asked them for more money in a situation that is

described in this review.

 

First off, I'll ignore the fact that he never begins a sentence with a capital letter and move on to the meat of things. He doesn't say that he didn't meet this guy. Rather, he says that two of the events that the reviewer claimed occurred, didn't happen.

 

i have had a messy room,

 

This gibes with what the reviewer said.

 

i have had to take a call before with a

client but it has only been very very important calls and it has only

happened a few times.

 

We all know what constitutes an "important" call and we know how often those happen in the course our work day. Mr. Dalton has made a point in saying that he only takes "very very important calls" and it has happened "a few times". Now I ask you ladies and gentleman, what can possibly be going on in a prostitute's life that is so "very very important" that these "very very important calls" just HAPPEN to occur in that one-hour window that he's with a client?

 

Unless you're waiting to be notified that they've found a proper liver donor for you, you turn off your fucking cellphone while you're with a client. Period. I refuse to believe that Mark Dalton's life is going to crash and burn if he doesn't take one of his "very very important calls". At $250/hr, the client is more important that any fucking call.

 

For those of us out of our 20's, we've heard ALL the lines: "Let me call you right back", "I overslept", "I lost your number", "I didn't have your number with me", "I got called into a meeting", "I can't talk right now, I've got someone on the other line and it's very important", "I can't talk right now, I've got someone on the other line and it's very very important", etc. IMHO, Mr. Dalton, was using this "very very important" call as an excuse to get away from the guy who was paying him $4.16 A MINUTE for "his time".

 

lastly, my best friend in the entire world, the

person who i owe everything i have to....... is gay and i love him as

the best friend and best human i have ever known

 

This is the "even some of my best friends are black" defense. Try something new Mark, we've all heard this one. (Also, how does he differentiate between friends and humans?)

 

and i would never use the word queer or fag in a negative fashion as i would never want to hurt him.

 

He's asking us to believe that he's a straight guy from TEXAS who would never use the words "queer" or "fag" in a "negative fashion". I would like to ask Mr. Dalton: "Out of curiosity, as a 'straight' man who works as a prostitute for gay men, could you please give us three examples of how you personally use the words 'queer' and 'fag' in a POSITIVE fashion?" Inquiring minds would like to know.

 

the situation described in the email never happened.

 

Once again, the "situation" never happened. Very curious. Not "I don't know who the hell this guy is and it's all a bunch of lies" but rather some of what he says is correct but the "situation" isn't.

 

In my first post on this review, I said that the review "feels right" and it still does. I can just see it: he's lying there with the client and his phone rings and he jumps off the bed because he's expecting a "very very important" call, he goes into the bathroom, shuts the door, and it's one of his "straight" buddies who asks "what's up?" and he tells his buddy that he's "with a queer" and the buddy groans or laughs on the other end.

 

Let me tell you a little secret guys: most of these "straight" guys have both contempt for themselves because they aren't comfortable with their conflicting sexual urges and they have contempt for you. These "straight" queens who allow "muscle worship" (a big piece of snore pie with yawn sauce) don't like you because they don't like themselves. You may think it's "hot" but, deep down, it's not. These guys are pathetic and to them, you're just another "queer" who likes pawing them.

 

Think about that the next time you've got your pants around your ankles while you're jerking off and feeling up his arms as he's "posing" for you. I bet it'll make you feel really sexy.

 

Helpfully yours,

 

FFF

[Guest JH]

I'm pretty much in agreement with your interpretation of the review and the response. Mr Dalton may look hot, but I think he's been sprung

 

>Let me tell you a little secret guys: most of these

>"straight" guys have both contempt for themselves because

>they aren't comfortable with their conflicting sexual urges

>and they have contempt for you. These "straight" queens who

>allow "muscle worship" (a big piece of snore pie with yawn

>sauce) don't like you because they don't like themselves.

>You may think it's "hot" but, deep down, it's not. These

>guys are pathetic and to them, you're just another "queer"

>who likes pawing them.

>

>Think about that the next time you've got your pants around

>your ankles while you're jerking off and feeling up his arms

>as he's "posing" for you. I bet it'll make you feel really

>sexy.

 

I've never really been able to understand muscle worship either, as I like far, far more interaction with my men. However, I am reminded of one escort I saw, who was strictly "no anal" whereas I usually like to fuck or be fucked. He had such an incredible body, pleasant attitude and was otherwise good in bed that I saw him a couple of times. Every time his mouth or hand was on my dick, I'd be fantasising about ploughing his butt. I guess we always want what he can't have.

 

Isn't being "used" by a straight guy for muscle worship just a different side of domination/submission? Maybe the contempt shown by the escort adds to the thrill, admittedly not in the reviewer's case?

[Guest JH]

I'm pretty much in agreement with your interpretation of the review and the response. Mr Dalton may look hot, but I think he's been sprung

 

>Let me tell you a little secret guys: most of these

>"straight" guys have both contempt for themselves because

>they aren't comfortable with their conflicting sexual urges

>and they have contempt for you. These "straight" queens who

>allow "muscle worship" (a big piece of snore pie with yawn

>sauce) don't like you because they don't like themselves.

>You may think it's "hot" but, deep down, it's not. These

>guys are pathetic and to them, you're just another "queer"

>who likes pawing them.

>

>Think about that the next time you've got your pants around

>your ankles while you're jerking off and feeling up his arms

>as he's "posing" for you. I bet it'll make you feel really

>sexy.

 

I've never really been able to understand muscle worship either, as I like far, far more interaction with my men. However, I am reminded of one escort I saw, who was strictly "no anal" whereas I usually like to fuck or be fucked. He had such an incredible body, pleasant attitude and was otherwise good in bed that I saw him a couple of times. Every time his mouth or hand was on my dick, I'd be fantasising about ploughing his butt. I guess we always want what he can't have.

 

Isn't being "used" by a straight guy for muscle worship just a different side of domination/submission? Maybe the contempt shown by the escort adds to the thrill, admittedly not in the reviewer's case?

[guyinsf]

For those interested who do not already know, there is a long thread on Muscle Service Station about this review and Mark Dalton's response. (Not that there can't be one here, too, but just in case anyone wants to read that one...)

 

The thing I find the strangest in Mark's response is his statement that he wouldn't use the word queer or fag because he wouldn't want to hurt his gay friend. So, he has only one gay friend in his line of work? He would use those words if he didn't have this one gay friend? He wouldn't care about hurting a client, only his one gay friend? He thinks like that but wants to spare his one gay friend's feelings?

 

As someone noted on Muscle Service Station, Mark may be his worst defense.

[guyinsf]

For those interested who do not already know, there is a long thread on Muscle Service Station about this review and Mark Dalton's response. (Not that there can't be one here, too, but just in case anyone wants to read that one...)

 

The thing I find the strangest in Mark's response is his statement that he wouldn't use the word queer or fag because he wouldn't want to hurt his gay friend. So, he has only one gay friend in his line of work? He would use those words if he didn't have this one gay friend? He wouldn't care about hurting a client, only his one gay friend? He thinks like that but wants to spare his one gay friend's feelings?

 

As someone noted on Muscle Service Station, Mark may be his worst defense.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

I love guys who have the balls to tell it the way it is, without the sugar coating and let the chips fall where they may.

 

FFF, you are a man after my own heart!

 

The best that could happen out of all this discussion (and on muscle service too) is to see Ms. Dalton's income wither up and die. Then, in the words of the immortal Connie Francis, we'll have a rousing chorus of "Who's Sorry Now?"

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Thunderbuns]

I love guys who have the balls to tell it the way it is, without the sugar coating and let the chips fall where they may.

 

FFF, you are a man after my own heart!

 

The best that could happen out of all this discussion (and on muscle service too) is to see Ms. Dalton's income wither up and die. Then, in the words of the immortal Connie Francis, we'll have a rousing chorus of "Who's Sorry Now?"

 

Thunderbuns

[Rod Hagen]

>Think about that the next time you've got your pants around

>your ankles while you're jerking off and feeling up his arms

>as he's "posing" for you. I bet it'll make you feel really

>sexy.

 

ROLL ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING MY ASS OFF. Goddamn, that was well delivered FFF. How come you can get away with saying cold -hearted shit like that, but I always get destroyed for doing so? Oh yeah, cuz I'm for sale. Duh. Anyway Fcubed, that was fucking funn y.

[Rod Hagen]

>Think about that the next time you've got your pants around

>your ankles while you're jerking off and feeling up his arms

>as he's "posing" for you. I bet it'll make you feel really

>sexy.

 

ROLL ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING MY ASS OFF. Goddamn, that was well delivered FFF. How come you can get away with saying cold -hearted shit like that, but I always get destroyed for doing so? Oh yeah, cuz I'm for sale. Duh. Anyway Fcubed, that was fucking funn y.

[Guest Kenny021]

I thoroughly agree with all the postings here. Dalton is trying to get out of bad behavior but we all see through it. I never could understand "muscle worship" but obviously many people love it. I figure that if all you can do is jerk off LOOKING at some hunk, rent a video for $3.00.

[Guest HenryK]

Let me act as a devil's advocate. FFF picks and chooses Mark's comments to find those that agree with his position. How about his

comments that he has neever just received $50 or e-mailed a client for the rest of the fee? Since FFF just assumes all the other comments are true, how about those comments? I agree that the reviewer's words have the ring of truth to them. Even Dalton admits that his room is messy and he does take calls while with a client. My guess is that some version of the event occurred. The reviewer is in a dificult position because it's his first. Also, I never liked his listening in on the conversation. But, FFF is 100% on the side of the

reviewer, the truth is more likely some where in the middle.

[Guest HenryK]

Let me act as a devil's advocate. FFF picks and chooses Mark's comments to find those that agree with his position. How about his

comments that he has neever just received $50 or e-mailed a client for the rest of the fee? Since FFF just assumes all the other comments are true, how about those comments? I agree that the reviewer's words have the ring of truth to them. Even Dalton admits that his room is messy and he does take calls while with a client. My guess is that some version of the event occurred. The reviewer is in a dificult position because it's his first. Also, I never liked his listening in on the conversation. But, FFF is 100% on the side of the

reviewer, the truth is more likely some where in the middle.

[Guest Kenny021]

I thoroughly agree with all the postings here. Dalton is trying to get out of bad behavior but we all see through it. I never could understand "muscle worship" but obviously many people love it. I figure that if all you can do is jerk off LOOKING at some hunk, rent a video for $3.00.

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>How about his

>comments that he has never just received $50 or e-mailed a

>client for the rest of the fee? Since FFF just assumes all

>the other comments are true, how about those comments?

 

I would put that assertion in the "Did-You-Really-Call-Me?-I-Never-Got-Your-Message!" column. Uh huh. Yeah. Right.

 

>the truth is more likely somewhere in the middle.

 

It isn't necessarily in the middle - that assumes that both side have equally "misremembered" the incident. IMHO, Mr. Dalton referred to the john as a "queer" - period. That's not open for interpretation.

 

And while I'm at it, I'd like to address the eavesdropping. Some of you have given the reviewer grief about listening in to his phone call. Let's keep this in context. The john has paid Mr. Dalton TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS for sixty minutes of his "time". If it were me, I'd be pretty pissed if he decided to spend some of my money by talking on the phone - I'd be very curious to know what was more important than me. Keep in mind that once the reviewer heard him say the "queer" remark, he grabbed his purse and sweater and left. It's not like he sat there making a transcript.

 

Continuously yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>How about his

>comments that he has never just received $50 or e-mailed a

>client for the rest of the fee? Since FFF just assumes all

>the other comments are true, how about those comments?

 

I would put that assertion in the "Did-You-Really-Call-Me?-I-Never-Got-Your-Message!" column. Uh huh. Yeah. Right.

 

>the truth is more likely somewhere in the middle.

 

It isn't necessarily in the middle - that assumes that both side have equally "misremembered" the incident. IMHO, Mr. Dalton referred to the john as a "queer" - period. That's not open for interpretation.

 

And while I'm at it, I'd like to address the eavesdropping. Some of you have given the reviewer grief about listening in to his phone call. Let's keep this in context. The john has paid Mr. Dalton TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS for sixty minutes of his "time". If it were me, I'd be pretty pissed if he decided to spend some of my money by talking on the phone - I'd be very curious to know what was more important than me. Keep in mind that once the reviewer heard him say the "queer" remark, he grabbed his purse and sweater and left. It's not like he sat there making a transcript.

 

Continuously yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>As someone noted on Muscle Service Station, Mark may be his

>worst defense.

 

I wanted to read the brouhaha over there so I signed up at MSS and got a password and all that jazz but when I tried to get into the topics it said:

 

You have requested access to a private forum.

Please enter the access password for this forum.

 

What the fuck is an "access password"?!?

 

Iritatedly yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>As someone noted on Muscle Service Station, Mark may be his

>worst defense.

 

I wanted to read the brouhaha over there so I signed up at MSS and got a password and all that jazz but when I tried to get into the topics it said:

 

You have requested access to a private forum.

Please enter the access password for this forum.

 

What the fuck is an "access password"?!?

 

Iritatedly yours,

 

FFF

[Justice]

>

>I wanted to read the brouhaha over there so I signed up at

>MSS and got a password and all that jazz but when I tried to

>get into the topics it said:

>

>You have requested access to a private forum.

>Please enter the access password for this forum.

>

>What the fuck is an "access password"?!?

 

It is my understanding that ezboard requires owners' of board's that are of an "adult" nature to use a special password to access the board's. In the case of MSS, that special password is lust. I can't remember if its all caps, all lower case, or a combination of the two. Send Ace Bannon (the owner of MSS) an e-mail (his e-mail address is on MSS' home page) if you still can't get in.

[Justice]

>

>I wanted to read the brouhaha over there so I signed up at

>MSS and got a password and all that jazz but when I tried to

>get into the topics it said:

>

>You have requested access to a private forum.

>Please enter the access password for this forum.

>

>What the fuck is an "access password"?!?

 

It is my understanding that ezboard requires owners' of board's that are of an "adult" nature to use a special password to access the board's. In the case of MSS, that special password is lust. I can't remember if its all caps, all lower case, or a combination of the two. Send Ace Bannon (the owner of MSS) an e-mail (his e-mail address is on MSS' home page) if you still can't get in.

[Guest alanm]

The response is very carefully worded, too carefully.

 

Mark Dalton has signed on as member. I would love to hear more from him.

 

I understand the appeal of hiring guys from the Gaiety, but unless the guy is reviewed a few times on this site I do not see much difference between hiring a Gaiety dancer and a street hustler.

At least at the fabled hustler bar Rounds, you got to talk to the guy from a good length of time before leaving with him. Also, the management kept the real con artists out of the place. Wish it was still around.

[Guest alanm]

The response is very carefully worded, too carefully.

 

Mark Dalton has signed on as member. I would love to hear more from him.

 

I understand the appeal of hiring guys from the Gaiety, but unless the guy is reviewed a few times on this site I do not see much difference between hiring a Gaiety dancer and a street hustler.

At least at the fabled hustler bar Rounds, you got to talk to the guy from a good length of time before leaving with him. Also, the management kept the real con artists out of the place. Wish it was still around.

[Guest Andre]

The access password to the forum you requested is slut

Cheers..A.

[Guest Andre]

The access password to the forum you requested is slut

Cheers..A.

[Guest tmbg]

I wonder if the pic of Mark is even real. It looks like Val Kilmers head pasted on some muscle stud's body -where is BON when I need him

Cheers! Ritchie