WARNING !!!! KIRK/VOLTAIRE now MATT in NYC

[Guest jimmy]

Just to warn you guys, this con is now operating under the name of Matt at Stella's and the Townhouse in N.Y. Yesterday he ripped off one client at Stella's. He still looks tremendous, is charming , but don't get fooled. This criminal should be banned from any gay venue worldwide.

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

OK, please refresh out collective memories......why is he the devil incarnate?

[Michael]

LAST EDITED ON Mar-28-01 AT 09:01PM (EST)[p]Kirk/Voltaire/Matt and his brother Darren/Markus are expensive muscle-boy hustlers from Toronto who promise a great deal and (almost invariably) don't deliver.

 

I do have to say "almost invariably" because I know that some people have managed to have a good (but probably very expensive) time with Kirk and I personally have had a perfectly OK (but by no means 'great') experience with Darren, but I have good reason to believe that these occasions are far outnumbered by the ones on which people have been ripped off by these guys.

 

Kirk is by far the more handsome and charming of the two - he is very intelligent and articulate, and he can talk at great length (*endlessly* in fact ...) about subjects that really interest him - unfortuately the only subject that *really* interests him is himself ...

 

I once experimented with giving Kirk tips while he was performing on stage at Remingtons in Toronto. It was rather like feeding a goldfish - and just about as satisfying - he would come up, take the tip, the money would disappear instantly and he was ready for more ;-)

 

Darren is younger than Kirk but is bigger, more muscular and usually very defined - he's quite a serious bodybuilder and has a *very* nice body - unfortunately his personality really doesn't match up to his looks.

 

Oh, and just for the record, since I'm sure you will want to know ...

 

Kirk has a reasonably large dick - about 8" I would guess (although I'm sure he claims that it's at least 9") and average thickness

 

Darren is really rather small - I think he might make 6" on a good day, but his good days are few and far between, and he usually seems to have a lot of trouble getting it up, so if you set your expectations at 3" - 4" soft you won't be too disappointed :-(

 

If I remember correctly they are both uncut.

[johnnysneakers]

Do you know of any photos of these guys.

 

I remember meeting a BB named Darren at Remington's about 2 years ago and saw him (and only that) at Gaiety about a year ago. My private with him in Toronto was very disappointing as it was "rush, rush, do it fast and now, I am a busy boy" routine that we all hate. There was zero passion or interest other than for his fee. His body was smooth and extremely cut, and his tool was nothing exceptional so it might fall into the category you mentioned above. If you are satisfied with lookie only, he may be your type, but for any interaction, avoid this guy.

 

Kirk, I do not know.

 

If anyone has photos it would be a great service to post them so we could all swing wide on this lot.

[Michael]

They both have reviews with pictures on this site:

 

This is Darren / Markus:

 

http://www.male4malescorts.com/images/markusnyc.jpg

 

and his reviews are at:

 

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/darrennyc.html

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/markusnyc.html

 

and this is Kirk/Voltaire/Matt:

(in a rather bad picture that must be about 4 years old)

 

http://www.male4malescorts.com/images/kirknw.jpg

 

and his reviews are at:

 

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/kirknw.html

[ready4boi]

Just a reminder both this Kirk and Darren character were both fired from The Gaiety for their antics. In my opinion they are a pair of sociopaths far more trouble than they are worth. Kirk is an egomaniac but probably something to be more aware of is the fact he is very emotionally disturbed. Now of course a lot of escorts tend to be and a lot of johns obviously don't care and just want to have a good time sexually but with Kirk you are most likely guaranteed to have an ugly situation. All we can do is warn enough people til they both leave the business.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

>...very emotionally disturbed......of course a lot of escorts tend to be and a lot of johns obviously don't care and just want to have a good time......<

 

I am by no means trying to be contentious, but am honestly curious if very many clients feel this way. I'm certain there's a good number of maladjusted individuals working as escorts, and it would be easy enough for a client to hire a string of kooks unwittingly, hence casting us all in a disturbed light. But it couldn't be true that a lot of clients just don't care, could it? Most I've met are kind to a fault. Of course I've also met a butthole or two, but those are everywhere. Sorry if this query strays too far from the original post, but this is where the subject was raised.

[Michael]

Well, as a client I certainly *do* care ...

 

Maybe I have just been lucky, or maybe I am very particular about the escorts that I hire (or, perhaps it's a bit of both) but, of the hundred or so escorts that I have hired over the part 15 years I can only think of one or two who *might* qualify for the description 'emotionally disturbed' ...

 

(and Kirk is not one of them)

[ready4boi]

Obviously you don't know him then. Anyboy who can't do anything better than rip off gay men like he's been has problems.

[Guest hungrybottom]

I am almost embarrassed to admit that I got taken by both of these guys as well. They are both very good looking, but refused to do anything that they had agreed to on the phone. I would avoid at all costs.