ENOUGH ALREADY - Re Escort Rates - Cynic et al

[Guest Quinte]

Some dead President is quoted as saying:

"It is often wise to remain silent, and be thought a fool. Than to speak and remove all doubt"

 

This in mind, I followed this post, not with much interest as it has been addressed at least three times before (see archives). For the benefit of they who missed those posts one of the things I said was that for every good and professional escort, there will be clients. If the price tag does not fit MOVE ON. Nice Guy and many others sum it up by saying "...So i guess we have little recouse but to take a chance. And read the reviews."

 

It is impossible to have a "good" time with a guy you just tried to "bargain" with. It dampens things just a tad. Trust me on this one. Some escorts will and may offer deals/discounts to regular clients, but let them do this of their own accord. You really will be surprised what I and some of my friends will do for regulars or bonafide clients (Sean, Matt and Taylor where are you :-)). I surprised one client when I showed him my expense sheet for one month. I am sure you guys have similar stories and can concur with me. It takes more $$$ than clients realise to keep this boat afloat. Also, some of us choose to see no more than one or two guys in a day just so we can give our all. Is this not better than arriving at your abode or the session, at a cheaper rate but tired because you are John number four? Listen, some escorts charge less because they have a "I don't do list" that is longer than their dicks x10. I know escorts who advertise one rate and surprise you with "extras" (see certain escorts in Houston). Think about it.

 

Also dear clients, it is much better to inform your escort as soon as is possible that you do not wish to carry on with the session, rather than finish and then try to underpay him because the experience was disappointing. Let me say this, there are very "nice" guys in this industry -Alas, but a few. Is the confrontation or palava that may result worth it? So ok, you tried to save $50, but some of these boys will not leave quietly. Leaving more than $50 worth of damages and stress in their wake. Appointments may well have been cancelled to meet with you. Think about it and tread carefully.

 

Remember, there are escorts and then there are hustlers.

 

Most excellent escorts do not find themselves in this predicament, but it does happen, and you never know what demons may be unleashed.

 

Now, while I respect the issues raised by these fine gentlemen (you must believe me when I say that we as escorts, do not under value you nor the fact that you keep us in a style that we are accustomed to. We know only too well which side our bread is buttered) but I honestly think the point is over laboured. Even if the rates were $100, there still will be complaints. So at the risk of repeating myself:

 

IF AN ESCORTS RATE DOES NOT MATCH YOUR BUDGET, MOVE ON.

 

There are literally thousands of escorts out there, and more young men join the game than leave it. If you try (not even hard) you will find a guy within your price range. There are crack heads on street corners in every major city who will do anything for a buck.

 

On a recent trip to NYC, a rather cute (but dirty)guy offered to suck my dick in exchange for bed for the night. I declined. My point is any one can get off. Hang around a chat room long enough with a desperate handle, wear your best drags and jewelry then go stand at any bar and look available, for a last resort go to any bath house, rent yourself a booth and remember to leave the door slightly ajar with your ass up in the air. Some one is bound to walk in sooner or later. They may not be Brad Pitt, but they will come. It may take hours, but they will come. Alternatively, lounge aloof at the Hudson River Pier by Christopher Street some thieving young thing will be only too pleased to show you a "good" time. Hell, If you live in NYC go to Stellas, or venture into the Gaiety. You can haggle to your hearts content...

 

If on the other hand, what you seek is "beyond ordinary"; If you require fond momories that will last you the rest of your natural days; If you want a couple of hundred dollars well spent; If your wish is to hire an escort, a good one, then use great sites such as these wisely. You are bound to come up trumps. Do your home work, you will not go wrong.

 

Best of luck and happy hunk hunting.

 

SINcerely

Quinte DuSoleil

[Guest Sean]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-27-00 AT 10:54PM (EST)[p]Quinte you were a bit more polite than I would have been. I'm rather sick of the whining about rates as well. I under NO CIRCUMSTANCES negotiate my rates. They are clearly listed on my web site along with every ad I have on the net. When a client calls me or e-mails me and inquires about my rate I refer him to my website. If he responds with "that's not the price I was looking for" WELL DUH the rates were listed there to begin with. Why did you waste my time! If that price is too much for you DON'T CALL ME. Look for the guy that charges what you are willing or able to pay. PERIOD! ITS A SIMPLE PROCESS! There are hundreds of 100 dollar hookers out there. SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND

[Guest craigrc]

You guys don't like seeing clients complain about rates? So don't read the threads on that subject. We're going to talk about what we want to talk about, whether you approve or not.

[Guest Sean]

RE: ENOUGH ALREADY - Quinte

 

LAST EDITED ON Jun-27-00 AT 11:18PM (EST)[p]SEE WHAT YOU STARTED! Laughing my ass off!

[Guest Nice Guy]

Well, Quinte, since you quoted me I guess i should elaborate a little more. I have posted somewhere between 12-14 reviews on this site in the past 6 months, which is just the tip of the iceburg. I have just ended a 20 year relationship and the last thing on my mind is meeting Mr. Right at this point. The gentlemen i have seen, for the most part have been truely professional and all around good people. I think i have only given 1 "total waste" review, and the guy's other 6 or so reviews were glowing, just a personal thing. I expect to get what i contract for and if the escort doesn't or can't deliver i get pissed when they expect full compensation. I NEVER ask for a discount the first time. Its only if i tend to see them on a regular basis. After all, I didn't make my money by giving it away to the highest bidder. Don't get me wrong, I totally respect what these guys go through, we are not all "nice guys" and they have shared some real horror stories. They earn every dime if they are worth their salt. I have actually made a couple of friends this way and have therefore stoped seeing them professionally. One i am actually going into business with. So I DO respect them and their work, and they know it. Thats why i get the pricing structure i do. Everyone walks away satisfied, has a good time and I think that is important. So I hope i have made my position a little clearer on this subject

Respectfully

NG

[Guest Quinte]

RE: ENOUGH ALREADY - Quinte

 

OMG

 

LOL big time.

[Guest Quinte]

"...Pick your men wisely,,, the more reviews the better the chances of getting a good reading on the guy..."

 

Again, I borrow your words (what can I say, you make sense :-) and I pay attention). I always was clear on your stance in the matter. The fact the you end your post "respectfully" speaks volumes. It also says you are likely to get more out of an escort than the average client will.

 

Thank you for sharing; If only these sentiments were shared by a few more visitors to this site. It saddens me when stellar escorts are belittled by clients who have never hired them. It saddens me even more when good clients are ripped off.

Clients, make your expectations are clear as you legally can. Escorts, if you can not meet these expectations let some one who can do the job. Its ok to have above average or what some may consider high rates but only IF you are worth your salt and deliver the goods, and then some.

 

Seek and ye shall find. (Right Sean?)

 

Now, lets all a lesson learn and go back to the serious business of having FUN! (Ok paying bills and keeping one's benefactors happy, very happy).

 

Peace be,

Quinte

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-00 AT 08:25AM (EST)[p]Quinte,

 

Sadly, I have to agree with you and Sean. Sadly, because it seems that there has been a recent spate of hyper-inflation in some instances. (My own most recent lament, other than not having met Sean yet, is Michael Vincenzo. I wanted to engage him on my last trip to Orlando in March but there just wasn't enough time. Well, his $200 rate in March is now $300, beyond my self imposed limit -- a lost opportunity.)

 

As I recently posted in another thread:

 

'I don't haggle with escorts. I ask their rate and decide to sign up or not -- this is not some Mideast Bazaar. The last thing I want is to piss of or otherwise dampen the attitude of someone I want to have fun with -- seems counterproductive to me.'

 

If you are a regular and the escort wishes to offer a discount great but I won't ask -- you are right on about leaving that to the discretion of the escort.

 

Escorts have every right to set their rates as they see the market place (free market or not) and clients also have the right to lament the erosion in value taking place. Eventually things will even out, right now the bullish economy is putting money in all of our pockets and we are spending it, but as sure as night follows day the cycle will turn and it will probably hit the escort community hard as this is a luxury item. The question is, which of us clients will still be players and how many escorts will that restricted client base to able to support.

 

Well, enough Armageddon talk -- let's eat, drink, and be merry while we can.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-00 AT 08:23AM (EST)[p]Sean,

 

Quinte makes his solid points will polish and flare. A little polish softens the sharp edges and we all need a little of that from time to time.

 

I bet you and your elbows play a mean game of basketball too. :-)

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-00 AT 08:21AM (EST)[p]Duplicate post.

[Guest Quinte]

"...Well, enough Armageddon talk -- let's eat, drink, and be merry while we can."

 

Hear! hear!!

Well put, things will even out, and only the strong will be left standing.

[Guest Sean]

Tampa, I'm a no nonsense type of guy, I speak my mind. I'm direct and to the point. I don't believe in beating around the bush. I consider it a waste of time. As far as being tough in Basketball, YAWN! Any sport that has to do with a ball other than the ones hanging between a man's legs bores me to tears! I'm the Horseback, Jet Ski, Snow Ski, Water Ski type. Never got into "BALL" sports

[Guest Sean]

10 years ago my rates were between 100 and 150, its now 10 years later and my rates are now 200 250. 10 years ago you could buy a Corvette for 20 25k 10 years later a Corvette now cost 40k. Just a bit of food for thought And that car has gotten no where near as good as me with age!

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Hmmm?

 

I wonder what a 20 year old Sean must have been like?

[Guest Sean]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-00 AT 03:55PM (EST)[p]HELL ON WHEELS! AND IT WAS RED! I must have a thing for red cars, I still have a red one!

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-00 AT 04:05PM (EST)[p]I'm all for plain speaking too -- I think few are left in doubt about my position once stated.

 

As for you not being a 'ball' guy -- I'm a little surprised only because I concluded you were a tenacious competitor no matter what the arena. I'm still not sure I was wrong there.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-00 AT 04:06PM (EST)[p]Duplicate post.

[Guest Sean]

Tampa, I am a tenacious competitor. I play to win and I usually do. If you really knew me you'd understand

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-28-00 AT 04:14PM (EST)[p]I do understand, I think.

 

Your words and ways reveal a lot about you - not all, but a lot. As you point out you are plain spoken and don't beat around the bush.

[Guest Quinte]

Sean and Tampa

 

You two need to get together. I think a really good ball game played by the two of you at a venue of your choice will go a long ways.

 

Or to use Seans plain speak (nothing plain about him BTW) A good F**k.

 

Come on guys, what do you say?

[Guest jj]

Sean:

When are you getting your ass here to Chicago?

[Guest Sean]

JJ as soon as you call the airline Or if there's enough interest from the windy city that warrant's a trip there.

[Guest Sean]

RE: Sean and Tampa

 

We're working on it Quinte! I mean a boy is entitled to flirt a bit

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: Sean and Tampa

 

LAST EDITED ON Jun-29-00 AT 08:39AM (EST)[p]Duplicate post.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: Sean and Tampa

 

LAST EDITED ON Jun-29-00 AT 08:41AM (EST)[p]Coming at you from FLA today.

 

Courting is half the fun! -- well, maybe not half. :-)

 

And Sean is too interesting a character to just play bump and run with, even if it's a little work to get past the exterior -- interesting people are always worth the effort.