Fellow escorts, a logistics question: North Carolina

[Guest PatrickBogan]

Hey fellow traveling escorts: guys has anyone worked in Charlotte, Raleigh, or anywhere in that region; and how were your sales results generally? Any noted preferences for the region?

 

Any suggestions as to which market in that region would be the best for late June? Also Virginia Beach was on my radar, any suggestions about that for late June?

 

 

Patrick Bogan

patrick@patrickbogan.com

[Guest zipperzone]

>and how were

>your sales results generally?

 

Don't you just love it when an escort refers to appointments with clients as "sales"? We all know it's a business and they are in it for the $$$ but it would be nice if they could come up with a less mercenary term.

 

They make it sound like a marketing seminar at Macys

[lookin4hotties]

I think that asking about sales

results is a professional way to

discuss money. It beats talking

about how many morons they've

bagged. It's not a bad thing to

me that we contribute financially

to help keep their lights turned on,

that is, unless the escort is

a bit fugly. Escorts, you can

refer to me as your cute little

cash receivable from now on.

 

Lookin4hotties

[seaboy4hire]

>>and how were

>>your sales results generally?

>

>Don't you just love it when an escort refers to appointments

>with clients as "sales"? We all know it's a business

>and they are in it for the $$$ but it would be nice if they

>could come up with a less mercenary term.

>

>They make it sound like a marketing seminar at Macys

 

I was thinking along the same line as the "sales" thing Zip. Heck I don't even like to refer to you guys as clients. To me even that seems cold.

 

Hugs,

Greg

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[Guest zipperzone]

>I think that asking about sales

>results is a professional way to

>discuss money. It beats talking

>about how many morons they've

>bagged. It's not a bad thing to

>me that we contribute financially

>to help keep their lights turned on,

>that is, unless the escort is

>a bit fugly. Escorts, you can

>refer to me as your cute little

>cash receivable from now on.

>

>Lookin4hotties

 

What they probably really think of you is "mark"

[lookin4hotties]

No wonder escorts like me more

than my ex-boyfriends do....

Darn, thought it was my smile! :O)

 

Lookin4hotties

[Philly Guy]

>

>What they probably really think of you is "mark"

 

Not to be confused with "testy" Mark rgar has been conspicuously absent

[Philly Guy]

>>

>>What they probably really think of you is

>"mark"

>

>Not to be confused with "testy" Mark rgar has been

>conspicuously absent

>

no; "rgar" in not a word, i meant "who" (sorry}

[Guest Michaelnc]

Maybe it's because I work in sales, but this seems like a perfectly OK way for Patrick to talk about how much business he might expect to do. It's hard to strike the right balance. I don't want to be treated like an annoying or unpleasant customer; but I also don't like it when an escort or masseur or stripper is exaggeratedly affectionate. It's a business transaction that has very intimate aspects, and it's not everyone - either clients or working guys - who can handle it successfully and gracefully.

 

On a slightly different note, I hope Patrick does decide to bring his very attractive self down to Raleigh. We need some hot new blood down here.

 

Michaelnc

[AdamSmith]

Speaking as a client/trick/sale/meal ticket/cash machine, I feel like there must be a riff here along the lines of Steve Martin's SNL monologue:

 

"I believe it's derogatory to refer to a woman's breasts as 'boobs,' 'jugs,' 'Winnebagos' or 'Golden Bozos.' You should only refer to them as 'hooters.'"

 

:+

[Scorpio]

>>and how were

>>your sales results generally?

>

>Don't you just love it when an escort refers to appointments

>with clients as "sales"? We all know it's a business

>and they are in it for the $$$ but it would be nice if they

>could come up with a less mercenary term.

>

>They make it sound like a marketing seminar at Macys

 

I'm not sure what you would call it. It may sound a little cold but that's what is "sales". It's better than some of the more derogatory options, such as how can I "turn more tricks".

 

Plus the question wasn't directed at clients, it was directed a fellow escorts. I'm not sure that clients can even objectively provide the type of information Patrick was looking for.

 

That being said, the last term in the world that should be associated with Patrick Bogan is mercenary. Having had the pleasure of his company this past weekend, I can assure you that he's very service oriented. He was totally focused on my needs and desires. Not only did he live up to my expectations, he far surpassed them. He was very generous with both his time and his talents and making sure that I was satisfied in every way. He's definitely not a clock watcher and by his own choosing ended up staying well BEYOND the appointed time. And I got the distinct impression that he would have stayed even longer if he hadn't had other commitments, but when he finally left he was already over an hour late in meeting friends. We seemed to share a special connection, so I don't know if the bonus time was an exception rather than a rule. But I would imagine that he is just as service oriented in all appointments regardless of the time spent. He even checked in several times over the next few days to either thank me or make sure that I had a good time...again that may be an exception rather than a rule.

[Guest zipperzone]

>I'm not sure what you would call it. It may sound a little

>cold but that's what is "sales". It's better than

>some of the more derogatory options, such as how can I

>"turn more tricks".

 

He could have asked for other escorts opinions as to the possibility of contacting new clients in that area. That IMO would have been less crass than talking about sales. I could almost hear the cash register ring.

 

Glad you had a good time with him - and he can chalk up one more sale now :-)

[Bart]

zip

First I am a Patrick Bogan client as well as client of his current traveling partners Jaimie and Milos. Business is my background and any escorts who know me well, know I love to talk about the business side of escorting, I think it is an extremely interesting subject. Patrick and I talk regularly and I can assure you when you are with him or his partners, business is the furthest thing from your mind. In fact I am the one that brings it up, especially during our meals together and they will bounce things off of me and get my opinion. I am glad when I can help guys out.

 

I know it is difficult to look at the reality of what this is, a person selling a fantasy to us. There is a business component to this. Reading this tells me I will be dealing with a person who is level headed and I can talk to with some intelligence. We are quick to jump on escorts when they come off as having no clue to what they are doing in handling the transaction.

 

Now this does not tell me if he is a good fantasy provider, as that is the second component. My turn to research his background, he has many reviews and a great website http://www.patrickbogan.com/

 

Knowing he is traveling with two other people the marketing question, what are the region's preferences. It also shows a person who is checking rates for the area. Again that only makes sense, I am always amazed when NY escorts come to Midwest thinking they can get $300 - $400 per hour, their NY rate. There is the novelty factor and the big names have a shot at that, but less likely to get the $1,500 for an overnight.

 

Zip you are correct when you feel "the escort is looking at me as a sale" sort of ruins the mood. That is why I find it best to know the business and terms of the meeting are done before hitting the room. As long as the escort business out of the bed I am totally cool with it. But I do understand where you are coming from.

[Guest CURIOUS35]

:-) :-) :-) :-)

 

I strongly suggest the word P A T RO N .... IT is pointing to a source of income or money. But it is also very flattering to the ego of the person who hires...much akin to an artist; who has a patron! The escort also has a patron (hopefully numerous ones!

When escorts use the word patron, it sounds like I am a special benefactor or special person to the escort.

 

:-) :-) :-) :-)

[AdamSmith]

Also not sufficiently special is "ATM." I have a role-play where the escort must refer to me at all times as the "Bureau of Engraving and Printing."

[seeker630]

I second Michael's comment - the choices are currently somewhat limited in the Raleigh/Durham area.

 

 

As for the 'sales' wording...didn't bother me at all because traveling escorts *have to have some assurance they'll get enough business to more than cover travel expenses. (Notice that I unconsciously used the word 'business' - the likely earnings *has to be a primary consideration.)

[+ Gar1eth]

>>>and how were

>>>your sales results generally?

>>

>>Don't you just love it when an escort refers to

>appointments

>>with clients as "sales"? We all know it's a

>business

>>and they are in it for the $$$ but it would be nice if

>they

>>could come up with a less mercenary term.

>>

>>They make it sound like a marketing seminar at Macys

>

>I'm not sure what you would call it. It may sound a little

>cold but that's what is "sales". It's better than

>some of the more derogatory options, such as how can I

>"turn more tricks".

>

>Plus the question wasn't directed at clients, it was directed

>a fellow escorts. I'm not sure that clients can even

>objectively provide the type of information Patrick was

>looking for.

>

>That being said, the last term in the world that should be

>associated with Patrick Bogan is mercenary. Having had the

>pleasure of his company this past weekend, I can assure you

>that he's very service oriented. He was totally focused on my

>needs and desires. Not only did he live up to my expectations,

>he far surpassed them. He was very generous with both his

>time and his talents and making sure that I was satisfied in

>every way. He's definitely not a clock watcher and by his own

>choosing ended up staying well BEYOND the appointed time. And

>I got the distinct impression that he would have stayed even

>longer if he hadn't had other commitments, but when he finally

>left he was already over an hour late in meeting friends. We

>seemed to share a special connection, so I don't know if the

>bonus time was an exception rather than a rule. But I would

>imagine that he is just as service oriented in all

>appointments regardless of the time spent. He even checked in

>several times over the next few days to either thank me or

>make sure that I had a good time...again that may be an

>exception rather than a rule.

 

 

I had car trouble on my way to meeting him--was able to meet with him--but afterward he walked with me to a nearby drugstore where I bought some antifreeze and he helped me carry it back to my car.

 

Gman

[Guest PatrickBogan]

Guys,

 

Thanks for all the comments that were posted about my query. I did receive several personal replies with good information, and to those who emailed me, I thank all of you for taking the time to offer your suggestions.

 

Next I want to thank the many here who expressed their opinions in my defense. All of you were very kind for putting forth the effort to do so. If you own your own business or are in sales (as some of you mentioned), I guess the kind of thinking and terminology that I used would be considered pretty much standard.

 

As many of you know, I travel in a group of five guys, and for the most part it's me who decided who goes where and when. A single logistics mistake can cause a very big loss for the group, so that's why I do a lot of research. Perhaps this was not be best venue to seek the information I was looking for; I will be more careful in the future about that.

 

But again my main reason for this post was to thank all of those who privately emailed me or came to my defense on the forum. All of you are great. By the way, check out the newest member of the group, Jason Savu, on my website.

 

 

Best to all of you.

 

Patrick

[Guest PWIT]

Patrick, glad you followed up to this post and it is good to hear you got feedback on the information you were seeking. After reading some of the initial comments I new it would probably discourage other escorts from responding publicly. That is ashame since many of us are very curious about the business aspect. If you get a chance, I hope you will enlighten us in a future post on some issues you encounter as a traveling group.

 

It is sad that you feel you may have to self censor your questions or comments in the future. This is the 'Ask An Escort' forum - so you should feel free to make the most of the forum's intent.

[seeker630]

Be sure & let us know your plans!