Kyle in San Diego

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Anyone hire Kyle in San Diego?https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/42521/

[+ SK in SD]

No experience. Not sure if you saw this older thread from 2019. 

 

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1 hour ago, RubMeLongTime said:

No experience. Not sure if you saw this older thread from 2019. 

 

Haha. My own thread. Where I said I wouldn’t hire him. Thanks for the link. 

[Simon Suraci]

I collaborate with others on erotic stuff, HE, extras, escorting, etc. I reached out to Kyle recently to see if he would be interested in working together on 4-hand massage clients. It would be for therapeutic only, no HE or anything like that. I’m trying to accommodate a wide range of needs by working with different guys.

When I hired Kyle several years ago, I figured he was therapeutic only. In person, he was interested in much more than massage with me. And yes he asked for photos before meeting, which I sent. I was into him and how the session was escalating, but we did not continue further. I thanked him anyway for a good therapeutic session, paid him, and we parted ways.

When I reached out this time about working together, we eventually discussed the fact that I also do escort work. He clutched his pearls when I shared this and then did not want to collaborate because it would associate him with my other work. He said he doesn’t even do a HE. I respect that and was clear that I was interested in partnering for therapeutic only massage and that some of my clients would be the right fit.

Anyway, it just puzzles me that he privately does more than massage (according to my personal experience with him), and apparently cares a great deal about what his clients look like based on his ad content over the years, asking for photos, stats, etc, and yet he is uncomfortable working with me because I advertise as an escort.

All respect to him for keeping it therapeutic only, and that’s fine, but I find it unfortunate that he does the same work but only on his own personal preference terms. At least I’m upfront about what I do, and I serve everyone. Definitely dodged a bullet there.

 

[Guest Casual]

https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/42521/

Bump 

Edited May 17, 2024 by Casual

[Guest Casual]

I reached out to Kyle after my other provider fired me for mysterious reasons. I hadn’t given the first guy any details about why I wanted a massage and I let Kyle know what was going with my body (and after reading back over it realized I sounded like I needed medical attention) 😂

He said he couldn’t help with my issues but he was very nice and apologetic about it.  

I asked him for his specialties and he said, “I mainly do general relaxation with deep tissue with or without focus areas.” 

[Simon Suraci]

Update on Kyle. One of my friends sees him and told me Kyle wasn’t doing the charade of asking his prospective clients for photos/stats before deciding to see them any more. Good on him, sounds like he has evolved, at least in that way.

Good on Kyle for knowing the limits of his expertise and not over promising to fix your problems @Casual. Not knowing exactly what you asked for, in general it’s sometimes better to refer a client to a chiropractor, physical therapist, a provider skilled in other modalities such as Thai Massage, or a medical professional. Massage is a good compliment to other forms of treatment, but it can’t address everything a client might need.

[viewing ownly]

3 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

Update on Kyle. One of my friends sees him and told me Kyle wasn’t doing the charade of asking his prospective clients for photos/stats before deciding to see them any more. Good on him, sounds like he has evolved, at least in that way.

Good on Kyle for knowing the limits of his expertise and not over promising to fix your problems @Casual. Not knowing exactly what you asked for, in general it’s sometimes better to refer a client to a chiropractor, physical therapist, a provider skilled in other modalities such as Thai Massage, or a medical professional. Massage is a good compliment to other forms of treatment, but it can’t address everything a client might need.

Kyle really enjoyed you as a massage client and with you specifically, more, too. THAT would be the reason that working with you in a professional capacity wouldn't be his personal interest. I feel it doesn't have anything to do with you willing to go further with your clients, but his desire to want to have that same fun, which would potentially deprive the client of getting the attention. This in essence emphasizes how much people enjoy your company. 

[Simon Suraci]

11 hours ago, viewing ownly said:

THAT would be the reason that working with you in a professional capacity wouldn't be his personal interest.

I don’t think so. He was open to working together until I told him I also escort. We had even arranged a time to do an exchange to go over how we want to deliver our 4-hand sessions. I was clear with Kyle that we would only be doing therapeutic work together. I respect his professional boundaries. It was only a problem after I told him I escort. I clarified that my sex work offerings would have no overlap with our 4-hand sessions. We wouldn’t even do a happy ending. That wasn’t enough, apparently.

Kyle had a problem being associated with a sex worker. That was his hangup. I’m not saying it’s right, but on the one hand, I understand how he may not want to give people the impression that he also offers sex work services simply because he offers massage with someone who does advertise sex work services.

On the other hand, he does offer sex work services, but only for clients with whom he wants to have sex. He may not advertise sex work or quote an appropriate rate, but getting paid for a therapeutic massage and then proceeding to have sex with the client is a form of offering sex for money. It’s the classic “paid Grindr” approach. My friend confirmed that this is still the case, based on conversations he’s had with Kyle.

I respect doing therapeutic work only and not wanting to give the impression that more is on offer. What I don’t respect is the paid Grindr approach to massage work, and then having a holier-than-thou attitude toward someone like myself when I charge sex work rates for sex work and do it for a wide range of clients. He can’t be associated even though he does the same kind of work. The difference is he only does it when he feels like it, with people he is into.

[MassageCommunityMember]

Anyone experience an attitude change with Kyle?

[MassageCommunityMember]

Kyle

 

Bump - I noticed he added a bit to his profile.