Reactions to these veggie burgers?

[JTtorretto]

Again with the accusations of ignorance.

 

Did you know that male chicks ? are ground up alive OldNbusted?

 

Honestly, tho, do you even care?

 

Some of us do. And us that do, choose not to participate in these atrocities.

[JTtorretto]

Again with the accusations of ignorance.

 

Did you know that male chicks ? are ground up alive OldNbusted?

 

Honestly, tho, do you even care?

 

Some of us do. And us that do, choose not to participate in these atrocities.

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Did you know that male chicks ? are ground up alive OldNbusted?

 

Honestly, tho, do you even care?

 

Some of us do. And us that do, choose not to participate in these atrocities.

 

 

No one said you don't have the right to choose for yourself. The issue is you are attempting to impose your choice on everyone else, so you are saying they don't get to choose for themselves. That is fundamentalism and I will always push back on that.

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Did you know that male chicks ? are ground up alive OldNbusted?

 

Honestly, tho, do you even care?

 

Some of us do. And us that do, choose not to participate in these atrocities.

 

 

No one said you don't have the right to choose for yourself. The issue is you are attempting to impose your choice on everyone else, so you are saying they don't get to choose for themselves. That is fundamentalism and I will always push back on that.

[JTtorretto]

[JTtorretto]

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Again with the accusations of ignorance.

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Again with the accusations of ignorance.

[JTtorretto]

No one said you don't have the right to choose for yourself. The issue is you are attempting to impose your choice on everyone else, so you are saying they don't get to choose for themselves. That is fundamentalism and I will always push back on that.

 

Slavery in the United States was the legal institution of human chattel enslavement, primarily of Africans and African Americans, that existed in the United States of America from the birth of the nation in 1776 until passage of the 13th Amendment in 1865.

 

During this almost 100 year period it was socially acceptable to be a racist, & own slaves in America as it was legally bound.

 

Thankfully, public opinion eventually changed and racism became known as an evil mindset that is not fair and is hateful and totally wrong and slavery is a torrid piece of our history as a nation.

 

Currently, specism is legal. However, one day this antiquated, cruel way of thinking will ALSO be illegal, as racism did, just as the great genius Leonardo daVinci stated 500 years ago..

“the time will come when men will look upon the murder of an innocent animal as they look upon the murder of an innocent man”.

~ Leonardo da Vinci

[JTtorretto]

No one said you don't have the right to choose for yourself. The issue is you are attempting to impose your choice on everyone else, so you are saying they don't get to choose for themselves. That is fundamentalism and I will always push back on that.

 

Slavery in the United States was the legal institution of human chattel enslavement, primarily of Africans and African Americans, that existed in the United States of America from the birth of the nation in 1776 until passage of the 13th Amendment in 1865.

 

During this almost 100 year period it was socially acceptable to be a racist, & own slaves in America as it was legally bound.

 

Thankfully, public opinion eventually changed and racism became known as an evil mindset that is not fair and is hateful and totally wrong and slavery is a torrid piece of our history as a nation.

 

Currently, specism is legal. However, one day this antiquated, cruel way of thinking will ALSO be illegal, as racism did, just as the great genius Leonardo daVinci stated 500 years ago..

“the time will come when men will look upon the murder of an innocent animal as they look upon the murder of an innocent man”.

~ Leonardo da Vinci

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False equivalence.

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False equivalence.

[JTtorretto]

No one said you don't have the right to choose for yourself. The issue is you are attempting to impose your choice on everyone else, so you are saying they don't get to choose for themselves. That is fundamentalism and I will always push back on that.

 

Surely there were plantation owners who held your same opinion which is basically “that’s fine you don’t believe in owning slaves, but why don’t you keep your opinions to yourself”.

 

however, who was to speak up for the slaves owned by the plantation owners?

 

thus I speak up for those who don’t have a voice of their own.

[JTtorretto]

No one said you don't have the right to choose for yourself. The issue is you are attempting to impose your choice on everyone else, so you are saying they don't get to choose for themselves. That is fundamentalism and I will always push back on that.

 

Surely there were plantation owners who held your same opinion which is basically “that’s fine you don’t believe in owning slaves, but why don’t you keep your opinions to yourself”.

 

however, who was to speak up for the slaves owned by the plantation owners?

 

thus I speak up for those who don’t have a voice of their own.

[+ oldNbusted]

More false equivalence.

[+ oldNbusted]

More false equivalence.

[JTtorretto]

More false equivalence.

 

Curious your thoughts about the dog and cat meat trade in Asia?

 

[the dogs are boiled alive in large metal crates as it’s believed that the fear emotions the dogs are feeling while being confronted with the full knowledge of their impending murder, will add both flavor and added virility “vitamins” to the dog meat once eaten].

[JTtorretto]

More false equivalence.

 

Curious your thoughts about the dog and cat meat trade in Asia?

 

[the dogs are boiled alive in large metal crates as it’s believed that the fear emotions the dogs are feeling while being confronted with the full knowledge of their impending murder, will add both flavor and added virility “vitamins” to the dog meat once eaten].

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Curious your thoughts about the dog and cat meat trade in Asia?

 

[the dogs are boiled alive in large metal crates as it’s believed that the fear emotions the dogs are feeling while being confronted with the full knowledge of their impending murder, will add both flavor and added virility “vitamins” to the dog meat once eaten].

 

I don't believe you are interested in my thoughts. You've already demonstrated that you are not interested in engaging in good faith, just using insulting and salacious rhetoric to prop up your overweening moral superiority.

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Curious your thoughts about the dog and cat meat trade in Asia?

 

[the dogs are boiled alive in large metal crates as it’s believed that the fear emotions the dogs are feeling while being confronted with the full knowledge of their impending murder, will add both flavor and added virility “vitamins” to the dog meat once eaten].

 

I don't believe you are interested in my thoughts. You've already demonstrated that you are not interested in engaging in good faith, just using insulting and salacious rhetoric to prop up your overweening moral superiority.

[JTtorretto]

I don't believe you are interested in my thoughts. You've already demonstrated that you are not interested in engaging in good faith, just using insulting and salacious rhetoric to prop up your overweening moral superiority.

 

Incorrect, I do care about your thoughts and have enjoyed having this discussion (publicly) with you.

 

What are your thoughts about dog meat in China, Korea, Vietnam etc ?

[JTtorretto]

I don't believe you are interested in my thoughts. You've already demonstrated that you are not interested in engaging in good faith, just using insulting and salacious rhetoric to prop up your overweening moral superiority.

 

Incorrect, I do care about your thoughts and have enjoyed having this discussion (publicly) with you.

 

What are your thoughts about dog meat in China, Korea, Vietnam etc ?

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Incorrect, I do care about your thoughts and have enjoyed having this discussion (publicly) with you.

 

What are your thoughts about dog meat in China, Korea, Vietnam etc ?

 

You just compared me to a slaveholding plantation owner, your credibility is nowhere to be seen.

[+ oldNbusted]

Incorrect, I do care about your thoughts and have enjoyed having this discussion (publicly) with you.

 

What are your thoughts about dog meat in China, Korea, Vietnam etc ?

 

You just compared me to a slaveholding plantation owner, your credibility is nowhere to be seen.

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I eat meat because I enjoy eating meat, it's not any more complicated than that. It's certainly not because I'm stupid. It's never a good sign when people resort to logical fallacies like argument by assertion and straw men. The synthetics are not as good. Maybe they will get better, but I do doubt they will ever be the same.

 

This post was marked insulting by jtorretto. Now sticking up for straw men, I suppose.