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The point of this thread was not to talk about how many scammers there are, but to (if you are comfortable) call them out so others won't get scammed And before masseurs go off on me saying clients scam too - I AM NOT saying they don't. Instead of berating me with comments, create your own thread about it etc I love this site and have got and given great advise and recommendations. It just seems like so many of the legit posts i make the masseurs come out of the woods and pounce on me. Lighten up please. We get it y'all are the good ones.

Thanks, but those links are very old. Has anyone had any recent experiences with him?

Hey thanks I believe they are real just scammers Btw for a while you cannot imagine how hard I beat myself up over this. Not the money loss but that I should have caught this. Trust me I'm MUCH more aware. An expensive lesson But that is why I love this site - to help others and see what others have gone through

Thanks guys, yes FItfox was his partner when I saw him I saw Fitfox and not kitten bear. I never saw kitten so no comments My earlier comments were just for Fitfox. I wanted to clarify that Oh and I recall his pics not being quite accurate but its been a while

Here is 100000% perfect example of scammer: https://rentmasseur.com/zaneandmilaan Prior to the massage they talked the talk, said the right things etc. Then a day before they asked for a deposit $150). I STUPIDLY did that (they were giving off legit vibes). Then the day before or day of, they asked for the rest up frot to "avoid the money aspect and so we can just get started". I REALLY fought this one but ultimately caved and sent another $150. As i'm diving over they texted me with the most UN-BELIEVABLE excuse. I was like WTF. We had some more text exchanges about their "incident". When it was clear there was no massage I asked for a refund - CRICKETS. I reported them to venmo and company4men - neither of which did ANYTHING YES this 1000% falls on me and I felt so stupid i fell for it but hard lesson - won't give money ahead Anyways... as you would hopefully agree, this falls into SCAM category for sure p.s. their ad is expired - gee wonder why. I thought I saw it active at one point. Oh and I have (what I strongly believe) is their IG's (would have to dig them up)

Thanks it is NOT NikoLeto (who is patterned i believe) The guy used to have an ad on here. Reason I ask... i'm not sure which one I visitited kitten or the other one. I am not in agreement with most reviews here. There was pretty much NO massage He immediately went down on me. NOT saying that's bad. But if anyone knows me here, I really do like mostly a massage and sure some sensual stuff.

Does anyone know the name of his either current or ex massage partner

I've seen him a few times. Great massage, super nice guy, brings a table when he quotes you a price he does add "+tip" he does outcalls only so i get it, but to ask for it I don't recall him being nude with me. I just know the massage part was awesome Pics might be a tad outdated but still a handsome man

He used to do 4 hand with his either partner or roommate but can't place the name of the other guy

What about having a new section for known scammers?

If I recall it may have been wrestling but don't hold me to that I get that sensual can mean so many things. Erotic though is a little more focused and IMHO more than therapeutic for sure He was great. But no clothes came off, wore gloves and not even a HINT of anything sensual, But if you want an amazing therapeutic massage with stretching he is your man

SORRY guys I neglected to reply. While booking with him is not typical to what I have experienced here, he is worth it. I booked for mostly massage with a mix of some worship too. Man his massage skills and pressure are great I will say up front, he is straight and only goes down to undies. But if you want a GREAT massage with some muscle worship on the side, he is your man He is an incredibly nice guy too. I'm a gym rat too so we talked a lot about bodybuilding, workouts diet etc. In fact he texted me this am saying he was in town for today. I immediately booked and had another great experience

I finally managed to work this out with him. Will see him tomorrow

Is it me or is this an odd way to book. I dont seem to be able to pick a day or time. He keeps saying I will go where I'm booked. Maybe it's me, but I like to plan my activities. Not knowing a date or time is odd to me. Pics, profile and rates are all good

As his listed to be in my city tomorrow, I called him. I asked where he would be staying. He said I only go where I'm booked. I'm like yeah and you show you are coming here. He said no you dont understand, I will be where you want me to be just need a deposit. Something was just off about that. Has anyone had any experience or been with him?

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Without coming off rude, did you even try to search? There are SO MANY threads on him - everyone positive and recommending him

We actually talked on Grindr (before I knew he was here). He quoted me $150 (maybe he liked my pics )

NO offense but messages like this are so annoying and hard to follow. What happens is the thread gets confusing with people replying but not referencing which one. Also like in this post a new masseur gets referenced This site is GREAT for helping others . But for others to try and help, please try to be more specific - Just my thoughts/advise Asking about fewer guys along with separate posts is probably better IMHO

dammmm i was going to consider going with him. Need to re-think based on comments LOVE this site

I just started texting with him as well. So far he seems to be a super nice and amazing !!! Bummer we are not local 😞

Thanks for sharing your side. That helps A LOT Sorry if I put everyone in the same bucket. But we as clients have increased expenses as well - so every dime counts What about those who offer specific amenities and charge but yet on the road do not. I have had some masseurs advertise a rate on their site but when booking state its higher "travel cost". We are all faced with cost increases across the board. I do apologize if I made any assumptions that were in correct. Unlike you both here, there are many masseurs who are not respectful and try to get as much out of you as they can I get a massage frequently. I am always very respectful. I had one recently who said under NO circumstances touching ANY part of his (MUSCLED) body. I respected that and we got along fine - in fact I would see him again in a heartbeat. So again sorry about my post I should have thought it out better or not posted at all. I LOVE this site as it has saved me from some bad experiences and wasted costs.

The only point I will make about this is that the masseur is making 100% profile from whatever they charge. Let's put this into perspective assuming $200 price (which seems to be the norm), 3 massages day (on the low side) and 6 days a week (assuming one day off) and 50 weeks a year (assuming vacation). These are how the numbers land. So with all due respect masseurs are getting A LOT of money for this again 100% of the profit. You mention the heated table which is NICE. However, when they are on the road nice amenities are vernally not included yet the price stays the same. Please don't bash me. Ive been getting massages for a while now. This is just my opinion which I'm entitled to. The numbers below speak volumes for what they are making. Daily: $600 Weekly: $3,600 Monthly: $14,400 Yearly: $172,800 I'm an IT professional and don't; make near this

Has anyone actually booked with him who can validate