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And if you make a halfed assed attempt I'm sure you will get a flimsy reasoning that is full of lies. Only way to surface the truth is face to face..eye to eye. And I'm surely glad builder boy that you have a cadre of hookers that are now your genuine friends in life. You should be proud.

How dare you so flippantly say I know nothing of what I speak of. I was there..you were not! How the fuck would you know cheerleader if he stole anything or not? How? You werent there! I want my $400 back. Get a face to face meeting with me and the escort and see for yourself. Ain't gonna happen! You keep the escort shielded. And some on here are conflicting my story and mingling with the doctors. Mine is separate. So run along and contact him, tell him my requests and see what happens.

Ok Guys I made my viewpoint here. You gentleman that fawn all over these guys so much as to have them at your house for time on end, drive them all over the place etc need to step back and look at your situations. Lonely..maybe. putting way too much trust into a still stranger..absolutely. and if a come back of "oh we are really good friends now" get another life. Stop the money flowing and see what kind if friends you really are. Time will tell guys. Just remember these posts and when an escort seems to breach the line with requests that make you step back and say hmm... Then maybe you will pull back some and listen to your large head and not the small one. The cheerleaders on here couldn't wait to run to the said escort and tell them about the Dr's remarks here. Has anyone run to the said escort and told him that aa guy that you allegedly stole money from and never gave him what you got the money for wants to meet you face to face? Naw..I thought not. Never gonna happen. Character.

of course not.... if you are gay and a straight guy is hot most gays fall all over the escort and they can do know wrong....time will tell boys...time will tell

guys..... we all realize that the Dr should and could have done better...and he even said so. my question to all of you is this....isnt it a little sketchy that a person for any reason whatsoever that drives 45 minutes and texts "can i come now", doesnt send at least one more text in a 15 minute time span before turning around and driving another 45 minutes? Please dont defend this as well. you all know the answer would and should be a resounding "yes". if your boss gives you $75 to deliver the money to someone and says to you "if he doesnt respond then you keep the money", you drive, text "can i come over now" and then wait a few minutes and gleefully pack back up without sending another text that you are here. i am on both sides of this matter. please dont glorify the escorts efforts as back breaking to get into the session. it just didnt happen on his part as well.

i just want my money back for what i gave it to him for in the first place. cheerleaders here.... see if he will meet me and discuss this face to face. ill meet anytime and anywhere. aint gonna happen folks. again...character. the man has a chance to redeem himself on this issue.

one word...CHARACTER

not a moderator at all. just when one has an opinion i dont see why others cant have an opposing stance. and what does length of time have to do with anything? i've been on MSS for over 10 years

Caddy no disrespect but again this isn't a regime. This is a democracy that allows lively input. It's up to the reader to make an informed decision with the information put in front of them. I think the Dr and myself have given very good evidence. If it doesnt parallel your experiences that in no way allows you to shut down discussion. Turn it around... What if Dr. Said "enough already of the glowing reports. Mine sucked! Shut this down!"

Dr Marvin hold on there. You do not know what the said escort does or does not do with other clients do you? I'd refrain from that dialogue and just stick with facts about your situation.

Still makes no sense whatsoever that within that 15 minute time frame the escort would not text again..."where are you I'm here", " I'll give you 2 more minutes to come to the door or I will leave" having driven that time to get there.... and back. Guys if these were two friends and had the same texts we all know the person waiting would have text again. Now c'mon. Truth is it was easier and faster to pocket the money and leave otherwise a deposit would not have been in the picture... character.

it appears all miscommunication. "come now or should i wait" can be interpreted differently than "walking to your door now". The Dr. was wrong and admitted it. Yet there wasnt another text at all from the escort in the 15 minute time span waiting supposedly at the door but a text after he left. why on earth would one drive and be driven to take the time to get there, text you are there and not text again at the door within the 15 minute time span? "where are you?", "can you please come and open the door...im here"? that does not at all make sense. But after he leaves and the client texts he texts right back so he can leave and drive all the way back home with the $100 deposit. Again CHARACTER....

Builder boy I don't see how or why this should come down. It's a democracy of discussion not a regime here. Dr Marvin seemed to be in the wrong here and the truth has come to the surface so to speak. The doc needs to understand this, learn and move on. Now my issue is a whole nother story.... Everyone wants three sides to the story yet I am waiting to hear from the horses mouth just the second side...ain't gonna happen. The doc was wrong but again part of the story points to character not escorting. 15 minutes really isn't a big deal especially driving that far. Hell raise your hands here guys when you text an escort you are at the hotel on time in the lobby and he texts back to hold on I'm gonna jump in the shower. Do any of us leave waiting a few minutes and then block the escorts number? It's about character and Mr XL. I've stated very matter of fact that he is a good escort. His character as a person is another story. I'm glad that the cheerleaders here have seen a good side of this man.. I am. I for one of Mr XL have not.

JJ I think you are into something. I have a short term huge bodybuilder living with me. He has a girlfriend. He is the most effeminate "breeder" I have ever met! He also said he totally gets off on trannies and dated one once. I said " why would you put yourself out there like that to be rediculed when you say you like puss"? He can never give me a good abswer. I think it has to do with his strict upbringing and preacher father more than anything. I can totally see him at a white party drugged out of his mind with 50 men groveling over him and loving every minute of it!

pepper young... if you are a total top and love to fuck and fuck hard make sure once in your lifetime you hire Draven Navarro! OMFG!!! his body is close to being able to step right onto a bodybuilding contest stage, he moans and screams like a bitch getting fucked and he loves it as hard and as deep as you can give it! he said he really cant cum anymore if he doesnt have something up his ass fucking him hard! Super sweet guy and handsome if you like dark featured guys. what an ass on this guys...yowza!!!

here is my wish list! i have a regular blond bodybuilder that i am totally satisfied with but hey... if these guys happened to stroll into town...wouldn't throw them outta bed for eatin crackers! www.rentmen.eu/BrandonTaylor/ www.rentmen.eu/BrodieScott/ www.rentmen.eu/MUSCLEDREAM/ www.rentmen.eu/BrockMagnus/ www.rentmen.eu/Faneroberts/ www.rentmen.eu/Lucasstrom/ www.rent.men/JesseJaymes also my favorite doesnt seem to be advertising anymore...beautiful keith out of atlantic city. emailed him a few times and he said he was going to be in my city soon but never made it there. he does alot of video work as well. anyone know what happened to him? http://daddysreviews.com/cruise/newest/keith_atlanticcity www.thebestflex.com/profile/Beautiful-Keith

most of these breeders that wont touch a guy yet if they had a tranny in front of them they would be all over mister sister! what is it with hot straight bodybuilders and trannys? i dont get it whatsoever!

he use to dance for quite some time at piranha in Las Vegas. OMG what a body! smaller in stature and an ass that i swear even the breeder strippers would have wanted to get their hands on! always had a fantasy of hiring him with a straight muscle escort and give them 30 minutes. if dancer could fuck the cum outta him then dancer gets all the money. if the breeder muscle stud lasted then he would take home the prize...his ass was that hot!!...just a fantasy but hey...what the hell! On the flip side he gave off quite the airs. very stereotypical gay persona that "i am young, gorgeous and smokin' body so leave me alone...you are not". Maybe not that way in person but hey if what is mentioned above is true then i am spot on. He comes back to Vegas occasionally and will still dance a few nights when here. There was chatter from a few bartenders that he would stay in bed depressed a lot saying "i feel ugly today" and so on...have no proof this is just hearsay.

So DFL... its a negative to be a republican? Not to get political but ones values are ones values. I would never turn it around and state the opposite view in my assessment. Where is the party of "inclusion and tolerence"? Unless it is only of the mindset of the one making the statement. But then again you did qualify your statement at the end which is a good thing.

Ben Kiernan's add in "likes" says anal. If he doesn't do anal in some fashion as a top or bottom then isn't it deceptive to state this? That's why in text it's always good to state what your bare minimums are as a client. I always state to give a massage and give oral TO COMPLETION.. i have had many escorts that are mostly straight say "sure.. that's awesome" and since not really interested in men and you make them relaxed and comfortable... do much much more. And for the same price!

So what you are implying is that anyone(or at least most guys) that get into the sex trade are doing so to make a fast buck without learning a skill? I believe that. To steal is another story that I for one will never rationalize. I can't intertwine the two of them and seem that it's anyone fault. Stealing is stealing.

ive never hired vin marco. so as to me raving about him....nope. again you guys mention "3 sides" to every story. im fascinated to just hear the 2nd side. aint gonna happen. 5 star well as an escort..meh. good...yes. great looking...yes. took money from me and never produced what he was suppose to...yes. i hope your experiences were great builder boy...i really do. i am just stating the facts of my experiences with the person. moral character can go along ways.

Too many times these guys look at us gay men in disdain and we aren't even aware of it. They have what we WANT.. we have what they NEED. That makes them many times even more unsettled that they are dependent on us for their livelyhood. Try this to see if they are friends. Tell them that you are going thru hard times at the moment and can't hire them for the next month. Tell them you want to go to dinner with them and since you paid for so many dinners, you need to have them spot the dinner and you will pay them back in a month. Then see what "friends"they really are. It's easy to get caught up with the "I'm friends with a hot Uber stud that everyone stares at". But in the end there really is nothing. I see a regular very hot guy now. He states time and time again he loves talking with me and we are like friends. I correct him. We are friendly but not friends. He asked why do I say that. I said "no disrespect but if I called you to hang out one night as friends do with each other... Would you go"? He looked at me and quickly changed the subject. So there you go guys!!!

I would LOVE to even hear the second side of the story let alone the third!!!!

I'm glad your interactions have gone better than mine. I try to stay objective in all matters. I never put him down as an escort...just the character of the person. About one month after my last contact with him I saw him being hired at the Luxor gay pool party on Sundays. He saw me and never looked up or waved. Stayed in a Cabana the whole time That in itself shows character or lack there of. Since I can afford the loss I'm fine. Why someone would put themselves out there like that is beyond me..it's not like taking a million dollars or so. Just contact the person back, say you can't get xyz and return the money or trade out for sessions. Just scratching my head here....