Gadfly22

Yes! My anthem for trannies: Girl - you need a woman soon............ Soon............. you'll be a man!!!

I was walking down the street near Grand Central Station in NY a couple years back and saw a guy with a sign in a doorway. Don't recall exactly what it was about him that moved me but I really felt bad for him and decided to give him some $$. I went to the bank machine and by the time I returned there was a different guy sitting in the doorway - same sign! Didn't give him the money as I thought this clearly was a racket. Didn't feel bad about it at the time but looking back maybe I should have..........

Walnut Creek? Minnesota obviously! Say hi to "half pint" and Nellie Olson if you go! (Al Franken too - he might be moving out to the country shortly! )

Sounds like a good topic for a new thread: Any recommendations for good "last of the day" massage guys in NYC? Seriously I'm sure others besides me are interested. If you don't feel comfortable posting publicly feel free to PM me.

Wish I could agree but I trust my eyes and nose and some of your comments don't pass the sight and smell test. I admire volunteers who work at food banks and food rescue organizations, but I don't even believe that homeless panhandlers are their "target market" to misuse a phrase badly, but rather the working poor so they can have a little more disposable cash in their pockets. Not necessarily a bad thing but to solicit donations by spending large sums of money on crazy advertisements such as having celebrities weep and wail "AMERICA IS STARVING TO DEATH!!!!" is reprehensible in my opinion. If you cant raise money by honestly stating the facts just go do something else. And I don't mean to disparage your career (honestly, I don't know what you do) but in NYC we have a left wing (borderline communist) mayor just re-elected in a landslide who's only idea is to throw even more money at the problem than previous administrations and yet the homeless problem is worse than ever! I believe all these people hired to "reach out" to the homeless are nothing more than political patronage jobs handed out to loyal democrat supporters of hizzoner that do very little to help out these poor people. I am much more comfortable just giving them money out of my own pocket and hope they do the right thing with it. Sorry but that's how I feel.

You tend to speak in absolutes, but I will address your points individually Unfortunately escorting does not always include oral services, which I was chagrined to discover as a newbie to hiring escorts several years back. "Mileage may vary" as you say. For an erotic massage H/E is not an extra in my opinion but a requirement and not to do so or to ask for more $$ is dishonest, false advertising and insert whatever other pejorative terms you like. OK maybe not every customer, but if a guy is polite, punctual, clean, pays what you ask and isn't batshit crazy why not? Especially if giving oral is something the provider likes to do as part of his regular sexual practice? Seems like a good way to distinguish oneself in a very competitive market. I started this thread because guys who advertise as masseurs (even erotic masseurs) rarely discuss giving or receiving oral during the massage session in their public profiles (and understandably so) and I was just hoping some of the more experienced gentlemen on this blog or even the massage guys themselves would provide some information that would be otherwise difficult to obtain without long back and forth discussions between masseur and client or having to hire many times to find even a single guy who does this.

Wow what a great thread! I feel exactly the same way but never thought in a million years that there would be a thread that gets that deep into the minutiae of the subject! I hate when a guy waits till you are face down on the table to completely disrobe. Then I can't see the goods till like 3/4 of the time is over with and they ask you to turn over (unless I sneak a peek ). Remember guys - that's half the reason I came to see you!!

Understood and thanks. I thought this topic might be pushing the boundaries but as I said before I have seen it come up in other threads. If anyone is still reading this thread and has any info on the subject please PM me. I'll gladly share anything I learn with any interested parties (privately of course).

My take is a bit simpler than MasageAddict. When it comes to sensual pleasure sometimes I want to be active and sometimes I want to lie back and be serviced. When the former I hire an escort; when the latter I go for erotic massage. And if there are guys out there who are willing to go the "extra mile" I'd like to know about them and maybe give them a try. Reasonable?

You don't seem cynical at all but rather sweet. I wish I had the guts to do this, but I am so scared that something bad will happen that I usually lose my nerve. There are a bunch of guys who hang out at the intersection of Rte 1 and 440 in Jersey City who I'm tempted to give money to but if anyone knows the area you can be stuck at that intersection for a good 15 minutes if you are unlucky so the fact of being trapped there makes me a bit uncomfortable. Its a busy intersection so I take some solace in the fact that they get a lot of passers by. I have even seen 1 or 2 of them buying stuff at a nearby farmers market so the $$ doesn't all go to alcohol etc. There's another guy who is frequently at the Grove st. PATH station in JC. I've given him money a couple times. He is very respectful and always thanks his benefactors. Never have given money to anyone on the NYC subway. I find them aggressive/obnoxious. Plus I can't stand Deblasio. (Sorry I had to)

The topic has come up as an aside in several threads but sporadically and most often in passing so I'll ask: Can the good denizens of this forum name the massage providers (and link profiles if its not too much trouble) that they have had personal experience with who finish you off orally (not necessarily to completion) but as part of the build up to the H/E. I have had it happen to me only once (Eriss Rubio) and he is no longer advertising from what I can tell - and also more known for escorting - but I did get a massage from him in 2013. I have no problem thoroughly questioning a potential hire before I take the plunge, but asking if they do.........that seems very presumptuous to me so I think this could be a helpful topic for many of the more timid among us (and less wealthy who can't afford to take shots in the dark hoping to strike gold). Thanks. P.S. Sorry if I'm nitpicking (but I am a gadfly after all!!) but I'm looking for guys who do this as part of their routine, the first time you saw them, not because you and he have had many encounters and built up trust or that you and he had "good chemistry" or stuff like that. Thanks so much for understanding.

Dwayne from Whats happening. Hey hey hey! He had his own way of saying it. Not like fat Albert/Cosby.

Has the OP updated the list recently? Haven't had the pleasure of being with any of the "winners" but I can't believe Sean Xavier only got honorable mention. Of the couple, three dozen guys I have hired since I began this hobby several years back he is by so far and away the best kisser its hard for me to believe any of the winners are better than he is. He def gets my vote. In fact - Sean if you are following this thread please put it in your will that your tongue will be donated to science when your time comes (which is not for many many years I hope). Please Sean FOR THE SAKE OF ALL MANKIND! (at least gay-kind). Thanks so much.

Still says "profile recently expired". And, needless to say, no contact info provided. Anyone know what the deal is?

That may be the case for the guy in the pic but my experience is that, in general, if they give you the tip of the tongue to start they are very reluctant, even if asked, to go whole hog. And this is irrespective of whether you are paying or not.

Anyone remember Gabriel from NYC? Gorgeous Brazilian. Was on Massagem4m for a long time. Worked out of Chelsea till sometime in mid-late '13 then HK until he disappeared sometime in '15 or '16. He was my first erotic massage. At the time I thought the greatest thing since sliced bread. Knowing what I know now I'd say average massage skills and not very interactive, but a great choice for a first timer. Still get a chub picturing his naked body in my minds eye. Rates were reasonable too from what I remember. I'd probably try again if he ever resurfaces.

I'm glad someone posted this pic because they say a picture is worth a thousand words. I actually hate when a guy says he likes to french kiss and does this...... just gives you the tip of his tongue. What up with that? That's not a french kiss to me. I want full tongue - I SAID FULL TONGUE MR. SULU. NOTHING LESS. Anyone else feel the same? Anyways thanks for listening to my rant.

I’ll be waiting and hoping.

I think that factoid was absent from the mobile app version of the website. Now it says “profile recently expired “ so it looks like his career as an escort was really short.

Thanks pal! I have been checking every so often and I did again before I posted. For some reason the search function on RM returned 0 matches when I searched DraeAxtell (no space), Drae Axell (w space), Drae, & Axtell. Could I be doing something wrong? Can someone verify this? And if someone knows or communicates with Drae please ask him to come to NYC! Thanks (I know I can message him on RM but I'm too shy )

Anyone know if Drae Axtell escorts? Sorry I know I've asked before but I'm so infatuated with him. He is so perfect in every way. I figure the readers of this thread might be more informed on the subject. Thanks gents.

Ahh but has the reverse ever happened? Have you ever seen a guy you thought was totally hot and then later find out he was an escort? I did. This was back in 2010 - 2011 at the gym I was then working out at in Union City NJ. There was this really hot latin guy who would show up from time to time. No idea he was an escort or even that he was gay/bi. But sometime afterwards I was checking out rentboy and I saw a profile for a guy who looked a little like him - pics were not totally clear but he had a soul patch beard and bubble butt which the real life guy had, but profile listed his location as Manhattan, not NJ. It took a long time to work up the courage but I finally got in touch with him almost 2 years later! Turns out it was him. He's bi and a strict top but I did get with him for a massage. Those first few sessions were so amazing. It was like I had met my fantasy man and he was a down to earth, really nice guy to boot. Not great at massage but I didn't care; just having his naked body touching mine was enough. Still see him but only occasionally as I don't live in the area anymore. He's put on a little weight since our first get together, so not the total fantasy anymore, but hey no ones perfect. Just checked he's still on RM but his profile just expired. Goes by the screen name Brisco and is listed in Jersey City in case anyone is interested.

Anyone remember the LOGO movie about day laborers? One of the sub plots involved a gay guy who hires one of the brothers and I think they get married in the end. OR the episode of Noah's Arc where Ricky hires a (hot) Latino day laborer and ends up having sex with him? Loved both of these.

It's been a week now buddy. Anything happen?

Um hate to bring up the sordid topic of coin but this thread intrigues me. What I'm interested to know is how much are you guys paying for these massages - whether they are at a "legit" massage parlor or otherwise - where you do not know going in whether intimate touching is allowed or if a H/E is part of the deal? As for myself I will never pay $100 or more for a massage unless the masseur replies with an enthusiastic yes to the following 3 questions: 1. Are you nude? 2. Can I touch you? 3. Do I get a H/E? Now of course they lie sometimes but that's the chance you take.