spacecowboy

He's hot

I disagree [mostly] with you. I will focus on Ivo and Ian since you called them out by name. If asked, they will both tell you upfront that they will not be nude, do not allow mutual touch, and do not provide release. Yes Ivo (and his partner Petar) may be flirty to entice you to come back, but...

 
They are business men and looking to attract clients. When I was a good looking and strapping young buck in my 20s, my boss at the software company where I worked...used to drag me along to conferences to work the sales booth. Tactics to bring in the customers that might otherwise had passed our booth by. It's the business way.
 
...and a response to your 4 points...
 
1) Both Ivo and Ian do advertise on massagefinder. They advertise elsewhere as well. It seems that they welcome male customers...and they advertise where the male customers shop. I see nothing wrong with that.
2) Ivo does work in a spa (Revive DC) and Ian is outcall only (like Zeel or Soothe)
3) Ivo has never posed shirtless. Ian does violate this....so i will give you this one. In addition, his RentMasseur Ad also says sensual...which he does not deliver. I spoke with him about this about 5 years ago when I had my first massage with him. He seemed to think that a softer "Swedish" style massage was sensual. I told him no, asked him to get onto the table and proceeded to show him what a sensual massage would be like. However, he did not change his style of massage or his indicator on his profile.
4) Ivo does have his own website for Revive. Ian does as well called Revitalize.

Hey guys. Just went on a couple of trips to DC recently and want to add some massage comments for the masseurs I met while there:
 
Ian: https://rentmasseur.com/MasseurIan
This cute Bulgarian guy with the sexy pecs performed an outstanding therapeutic massage session. He came over to my place equipped with a full massage table as well as a heating pad and cushion for it. Totally professional! He was quite skilled and I might say one of the best massages I've had in the site. Very knowledgeable about the human body and it showed in his techniques and how he isolated and manipulated my joints and body during the session. I can confirm that he is therapeutic but you can be undraped if you wanted. For someone who does therapeutic, he had no qualms whatsoever with where his hands, arms and elbows were going in the service of offering an outstanding massage. I do agree however his pics on RM were a bit misleading. He has such a sexy body and one should definitely text your expectations beforehand. I think he gets so many questions about it that his responses to the texts are a bit nonchalant. No MT or HE but at least he was shirtless for me. I guess he got tired of me begging before we started.
 
Victor: https://www.delucamassage.com/victor-uriarte-lmt/
He works at Deluca but now has his own MF ad. A mature masseur but offered an excellent swedish style massage with some pressure. I was draped since it was in a spa. It was a fantastic session with lots of stretching. I booked a late session so I was really ready to go to sleep right afterwards. Walking down from the top massage room at the Deluca townhouse to the street level was difficult because I my body was just like putty. I would definitely come back to see him but maybe outside Deluca. I believe it would be cheaper.
 
Adam: https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/6906/
It's the travelling Polish guy who has had favorable reviews here in the forum. He looks like his photos. Compared to Ian, he did not come with a table. I should have confirmed but forgot and since Ian came with one, I just missed asking Adam if he was coming with one. For someone who does massage on the bed, it was quite good because he was a relatively big guy and can definitely put his weight on top of you. He used a fragrance free body oil which was fine but kinda messy when it got to the bed (even with towels underneath). Overall it was good but I probably wouldn't repeat unless it's on a table. Nude from the get go. MT and HE.
 
Chase/Chace: https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/36289/
Good-looking guy with a well-toned body and <10% body fat (a twunk ). He had a nice massage table at his place. He's located around Logan Circle area and in a newish building. I would say his massage was excellent but was a bit boring at times with repetitive strokes in one part of my body. I'm not a big fan of that. And no he was not using one hand while the other hand was texting (like Aziz at Deluca) However when he found a knot or something that needed his focused attention, his techniques got better and he's quite good at it. Easy to chat via text and his availability was quite open when I booked this weekend. I would certainly go back to him. MT and HE.

The slow and gentle release. When a masseur does this to me like this... it’s all over. The slower and gentler the touch I’m done. Gentle finish

Another one I think from the same guy. He has mastered the teasing touch leading to a finish. If only all masseurs understood this is all I need to finish as well. It’s the fast and hard pumping that makes me last.. and also isn’t nearly as enjoyable on the way there.
 
Expert touch

I had a great massage from Dieter earlier this year; I'd repeat
 
https://rentmasseur.com/DieterNY

Boiler Berlin
Probably one of the nicest and most laidback (yet fun) saunas I've been to, and that's not really my setting.

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Seeing hair on a man's lower back is usually a bit of a turn-on for me (sort of the posterior equivalent of a treasure trail). I think it goes all the way back to high school when a guy I crushed on had back hair and handsomely shaped fuzzy cheeks, not to mention a meaty dick.

Ryan reminds me of a glammer curly-haired version of Howard on tv show Big Bang Theory.

so this whole stream bothers me. there was a bait and switch. that said, the provider was hot in the opinion of the OP. but what if we have different taste? i like to see what i am getting for myself, rather than rely on someone else's taste. to me, this thread says that this behavior is ok because the provider was hot (to the OP.) rather than saying this is ok, i thought the point of this forum was to kind of try and stop this behavior, but i feel this thread is rewarding it by encouraging forum members to use this guy anyway. just my thought - i know others will disagree.

I hear ya and don’t disagree in anyway. It’s not okay for “me”. But in the end, the guy answering the door floated BTs boat, he shared this and gave us accurate info from which everyone here then chooses to use how they wish. Some say “no way, stay away” others say “ok, well maybe or tell me more”. No judgement from me.

so this whole stream bothers me. there was a bait and switch. that said, the provider was hot in the opinion of the OP. but what if we have different taste? i like to see what i am getting for myself, rather than rely on someone else's taste. to me, this thread says that this behavior is ok because the provider was hot (to the OP.) rather than saying this is ok, i thought the point of this forum was to kind of try and stop this behavior, but i feel this thread is rewarding it by encouraging forum members to use this guy anyway. just my thought - i know others will disagree.