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All of those other things are foreplay. And the play never arrived.

Yes, my home. Where he had been many times.

I think this may have been the reason, he wanted a place to stay and money, and so he reached out. Maybe he thought extracting money from me would be ok for him, and not much harm to me, so he asked for a 3-day weekend to obtain as much as possible. But he provided no sex in return, and burned a relationship.

Correct. We went to clubs, ate out, swam, watched movies, other things. Zero sex. Some of those things were also expensive. He extracted all he could.

At this point I had met up with Strokes many times, over several years, and personally I don’t eject people quickly. YMMV, L2P. It was also very clear we were meeting up for a weekend of sex, so that was also not an issue either.

Yes, of course, many times. And in each moment he always had a deflection that I respected. I gave him latitude because we had met up so many times before. He used that respect and latitude to avoid any sex for 3 days.

I’ve met up with Strowkes many times, virtually all of them overnights. One time he reached out so we set up a weekend (3 nights). He then proceeded to avoid sex the entire time, not once. As he was leaving I asked him how he could do this. He waved it off, said he had just done a lot of meets (wrestling) and must have been tired. Again, we booked that weekend because he reached out to me.

Yes, several years ago he had a RM ad (WrestlerJack or something like that). And he still sees some that he met that way for overnights, weekends, etc.

Lucky. Because he is truly phenomenal, both physically, and as a smart and engaged person.

Very much agree on his massage skills. Word is that he took down his ad because now he’s only seeing a very small group of escort clients.

Agree. The overnight experience isn’t just “when you arrive”, it also occurs “overnight” and even the morning. But he has various rules that make sense (only) to him, but you only learn these rules too late. And you must still pay.

This has been my experience as well. I’ve seen him for a few overnights. But they are unpredictable. Once he announced that the thermostat must be lowered to 60. And it’s also iffy if you get a complete overnight when you arrange (and pay) for an overnight (he goes to another bedroom and sleeps until it’s time to leave, so no physical contact for those 6-8 hours). He reached out to me recently and I told him no.

Jace_Starr is flaky as well based on his bizarre communications.

Yes, I think we largely agree. Your review speaks volumes. I point out that he has no RM reviews to emphasize that this early in his business he may want to do basic and simple things (like respond), get some reviews, etc., and he may develop many beneficial contacts such as the one he’s developed with you.

Having successfully used the same basic intro message for years, the sense he gives is he’s young (20) and still needs to figure out his business model (he has no RM reviews, and is apparently “not highly responsive”)

Maybe he’s high energy. So dinner, and a few protein bars for the trip home

Whatever his other skills, responding to messages is not among them

I had a similar bad experience. As it approached the time to meet, he launched a flurry of delays and excuses, some of them contradictory. Then an announcement that of course he must be paid in full on arrival. The end. Also be sure you've heard him speak before you meet him.

Consideration has to go both ways. There's a reason clients try to "confirm" that a provider will actually do as he has (willingly) agreed to do. Because so many providers do not. It's among the reasons this site exists. And it's made even more necessary because when providers fail to perform as they agreed to do, they seem to expect full payment anyway.

Client makes request. Provider agrees to meet. Provider postpones. Provider cancels and says it's because of the initial request. "I'm cancelling and it's your fault"

Cancelling or rate-changing based on something the provider knew upfront is not salvageable behavior.

He did not.

When he was first starting, I booked a meet-up with him, with more than a week of advanced notice. And then just before it, he cancelled. I presume he's gotten better about late cancellations since then, but who knows.

Exactly. My issue with Cooper's approach (and an "everyone wins" attitude) is that people like him would not be willing to accept the same behavior they dish out. Do you think, minutes before an overnight began, someone like Cooper would accept the client saying "by the way, I'm only going to pay 60% of what we agreed. See you soon."

He does. And he's very well known on social media and he's not limited to French, or to simple syllables.