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IDK. Maybe there should be another thread for Client Best Practices?

Some awesome person posted a whole trove. https://www.gayforit.eu/users/rohanpune

Just ask the masseur what their definition and understanding of those words mean. They are different to different people. Just ask and then you'll know. You can ask it discreetly without being blunt or say "I understand if you would rather answer in person." Sensual could just be HE at the end or sensual strokes throughout and no HE or etc. Erotic could be them just being nude and HE at the end or them nude, copulation and MT with HE for all involved.

I guess my question is ... why do you think that a 3rd party is involved? I mean yeah I can understand that a few different masseurs being in the same complex does look a little odd but at the same time, two of them could be dating, and thusly only going so far. At the least, they're roommates but doesn't mean anything else.

Lol well it sounds like they could benefit from a weekend workshop or something. Or just find something else to do. If they are not getting repeats that should be a sign that something needs to change. Maybe Alex didn't want mt because he's dating someone?

Alright, thank you. He's coming to Atlanta so I was wondering.

Bump. Has anyone had any recent experience with Cris? Since this has been a while, are these his pics or someone who looks similar? @pubic_assistance

Yeah I'm really not understanding prices pushing well over 100 an hour for just basic massage. That actually comes off like something else more would happen. And those with 30 minute massages seem like a waste of an offer when it would that long to get to some of them with traffic. Lol

Yeah it looks like the same complex from what I remember based on the exterior shots. Marcos is definitely on the radar but I do wonder why his rates are higher. Especially considering he's newer and there's more muscular guys in that price range.

It wasn't that memorable for me. I remember other stuff more. Cell phone for music and the room was bright. I wouldn't repeat.

I have had three experiences where things went beyond just a massage. For Me these times just were about chemistry. I have a rugby power lifted like build so I'm not typically most guys' type. I also wasn't expecting anything more than a massage but as a fully grown adult, if two people are attracted to each other then what's the harm if things escalated? Since one particular time with one particular masseur, it hasn't gone way beyond the massage since that one time I still don't expect it to but if it ever does again, great. So all of that to say I put that ball in their court. I wouldn't hire a masseur on the hope it lead to more than that. However if they have RM a profile in addition to MF or MM4M profiles, it's likely it can go beyond massage if you ask.

I think these two are roommates. https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/34984/ https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/35555/ I saw Jerry before. This recollection is the most memorable part about it: https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/masseur-best-practices.137163/page-3#post-1522783 So that leads me to think that Alex is his roommate. Not that Alberto and Marco couldn't be there too, would be...tight. But they could be in the same complex.

I booked him once. It was over a year ago in ATL. He was close by so it was an incall. He just got in from playing basketball so I'm not sure if he was super fresh but he didn't smell bad. I wasn't planning for it to go further so him not being shower fresh was fine. Massage was on a bed and he used baby oil. HE was offered as an up charge at the end. Very nice body for his age. He's mid to late 30s. He's pretty much muscle but has a nice butt. He had a roommate and a dog. It was an OK massage but I wouldn't repeat. If you just t like that type of swag, it may be worth it though.

He looks hot. Also, Guy on the table got cakes.lol

I know my regular guys' rates. I would think they would assume that I had no need to revisit their ads so I would put that burden of price increase informing on them. I wouldn't mind paying an increased base rate as I always have tipped. If it's someone who I have a built up mutual familiarity with, I'm OK with rate increases. I do have a price per hour that I feel is too much for new guys though. If you've been paying more than required for a while I think you're good. You are likely a reliable booking for him and dependable and I think that's something he probably takes into account if he hadn't told you.

Ahhhh.. wow. Drama. lol

Re Zach ... I'm not interested in hiring but always wondered why he had so many glowing reviews before the changes at RM. Looks too young and Biebery for me so I thought he was just attracting a certain demographic. Add about 15 lbs of muscle and some facial hair and we may have something to go with lol I recall him offering 4 hand at one point and I think it was worth the newly listed guy so possibly they are roomies?

Ryan has some clearly interactive pics on his RM ad. He's definitely one of my "types." I can understand not being attracted to someone for extras but to flat out decline someone is a poor showing. I don't even assume that booking him would include extras because apparently he really does have good massage skills.

This seems like something that needs to be adjusted by market. For example, I have watch visiting masseurs stay on "Available Now" for a long time, then look at their prices for my market and see why. You can be new to an area but if you are still priced out of range, locals may just go with the cheaper locals. You should try to be competitive at least to the area that you are in. Sometimes, that may mean going up in price as well to be on par. If I know I can get everything I need from a masseur I hire regularly for $X, it is hard to justify paying a 'new' guy $X for half as much time when both or "Available Now" just to say I've tried them, especially when there's few reviews out there. Which brings me to, if you are traveling, may want to let people know if the hotel you are in has free parking or not. Or even convenient street parking. I always find it interesting that some masseurs get in hotels that are clearly in the $200+ a night range downtown and wonder if they'd be better off maximizing profits by going to a spot just in the suburbs that may be a little cheaper.

Oh Another one... If you have a roommate and are taking incalls, let your customer know went they book. Hearing other unexpected people in the place is odd. I hired one guy and went to his place. Walked in to the front door. Bam. Massage table in the living room. But he lead me to his room. So I figured it was for practice or perhaps extra. Get to his room and on the table there and later during my massage, I hear another person going up and down the stairs. Well after my massage was done, a black curtain was pulled from the living room area so you couldn't see from the stairway and I was led out the backdoor through the kitchen. WKOSIT? I concluded that his roommate was also a masseur. That's fine and dandy. But at least let me know. I am sure the roommate's client found it odd hearing us as we were going down the stairs too as I was having some small talk about asking for water, and as I mentioned, the table was right in the living room. Just not a good look if you are not telling your clients before hand that you are in a shared space. A tleast let me have the option to decide if I'll go with the booking or not or letting me know if the roommate will be there or not or possibly arrive during the session. Another time, I hired a new guy and the appointment was at the same apartment of another guy I hired a few months back. I didn't see the other masseur but, yeah. That was kinda awkward.

I know op mention this was outcall but these are things in general for me... At home or when traveling, make sure you have a decent sound system for your music. A Bluetooth speaker goes a long way versus a tinny cell phone speaker. Also don't text or check your phone with a client. We can tell. Make sure you have used the bathroom before starting the session. I have had guys exit to pee before I understand nature calls but try to do everything to reduce the chance that you'll have to break pause the session. It's awkward lying on the table face down, naked, and and oiled up with nothing happening. Don't short people on their time and give yourself enough of a buffer between clients. If I hire you for 90 min that's for the massage. Not from the second I walk into the door. Allowing a buffer is good because 1 the massage could escalate to something more and if you have an appointment later, you want to give yourself enough time to to give that client a good massage as well. I'm flexible and always ask if a masseur is available after ☓ time for Y minutes. So that way I can work around them. Usually I'll try to be the last client or the first on an slow day which means it's likely to be a very fun massage. So be flexible and offer alternative times that will work if there is a conflict. A few of the masseurs I have used have sworn by Biotone as a brand. I really like when they use almond oil. It feels really good and not super greasy and doesn't stain. Also warming it up a little feels awesome. Always have cold water and maybe some candy for when people leave. I'm OK with being contacted after the massage but a lot of guys don't like this. Especially if they are trying to be discreet. So consider that if you reach out after the sale. At least ask if it's OK to text them later before doing so. I used to have a guy sending me half nude photos and texts about specials over 6 months after I hired him. They always came at inappropriate times. And if you do contact at least make sure the text doesn't read like you're begging and on the verge of eviction.

I would not pay $150 for a basic massage knowing that that is all it was going to be. You can spend a lot less than that and get a decent completely therapeutic massage and don't have to worry about ambiguity. Seems like the price increase should have come with some explanation if you are a repeat. In this situation, I wouldn't repeat if I were you. Also, remember that these guys are guys too. For some, they can 'perform' no matter who the client is but for others , if they don't have chemistry it's not going to work. At the same can be said for clients. I have hired different guys across different price ranges. For me, number 1, the massage has to be good. If it's good and the price is right, I'll rebook. If not, even with a HE, I won't. I need to feel that when I get up off the table 'WOW!'

Oh sure... Andrew. Very underrated. Think it's $100/90m. Awesome massage but no extras. But I didn't ask either. https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/1576/ David. Probably the best value in the area. Really good technique. He worked out knots on my back I wasn't even aware of. He could charge more if he wanted but that leaves more room for a tip if you like. https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/32457/

There's now two Tims in Atlanta. However for clarification, we're talking about this one... https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/28143/

Lol not really. I just shopped around. I was fortunate enough that my first massage was by someone who really did an awesome therapeutic deep tissue service and unfortunately he stopped so I had to find alternatives. If the massage isn't good I'm just not going to repeat so with guys who do just do ok , I'm never really feeling relieved of soreness. I do workout and get knots in my back frequently. If someone works those out they are a keeper in my book. Also if they actually massage the quad area of my legs makes it a difference too. I'm in Atlanta and use Tim who's been discussed a lot. Definitely an experience with his technique. And there's two guys who are fairly priced for their therapeutic work but don't have the pretty boy bodies but the massage is awesome and I am good if there's no extras.