There's a couple of threads on the site about the 4 hand with Andres his partner
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/32202/
https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/411-on-new-north-jersey-masseurs.147466/
the bf https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/32202/
have not seen the bf or had the four hand with mike. have seen mike separately and highly recommend
Highly recommend Jeferson and his partner I've seen them multiple times and agree with Tristatedude Not your typical massage but I've always left renewed and refreshed
I saw him last year in Berlin Looks pretty much the same although the pics have been around for years He's a big boy in all departments decent enough massages the first couple of times I saw him years ago