I had a massage with him in San Diego about 5 years ago. He offered both both types of services. However, when we went to non-therapeutic part, I could tell was going through the motions. He wasn't bad, but something was off and I never went back. Remember feeling that he was a bit on edge. He was probably the second masseur I had ever visited since was I really new at this and I didn't have some instincts based on reading ads. If I had the same guy feelings then that I have now, I would have been less likely to go and see him