Timothy

While that's possibly correct, no actual place of business is going to say anything else via text to a stranger. Or over the phone for that matter. If you're going to a spa...a place that lists itself publicly and can get shut down...you're only going to find out what happens inside the massage room.

Is Alven Asian?

Yes, try Mike.  He is consistently good in my experience and also try the table shower there. PM me for more details. 

Also curious… I had an amazing massage with Sebastian a few months ago and was hoping to see him again 

Does anyone know where Sebastian from TSMS went? He’s not working there anymore 

I had an even worse experience with this masseur. In the middle of the massage , he explicitly said that if I want an erotic massage I shouldn’t be cheap and be ready to give a good tip. It waz my first time at Alpha Men’s spa so I was taken aback. It could be that he wasn’t attracted to me so he didn’t want to pursue anything thus, the crass statement.
The rest of the massage was so detached and didn’t even bother to give a release. 
Definitely one of the worst experience I had with a masseur.

Out of all the men’s spa I’ve been to in NYC, Top Men Spa takes the cake, Times Square Men Spa a close second. Top Men Spa definitely has everything down to a t. From the impeccable hospitality provided by their manager, Lynn, the overall cleanliness of their establishment (not to mention the size of every room), and the quality of their masseuses. That being said, I’m not sure if I’ll be coming back anytime soon considering the very awkward session I just had. The guy I asked for was David. He’s super nice, very handsome, and a great masseuse (I remember this from the first time I had him) which is why I specifically asked for him by name because this was exactly what I needed— a good, relaxing massage. However, as we were approaching the last few minutes of our session, he abruptly stops and made a gesture above my mid area which confused the fuck out of me so I asked what he meant. He goes, “I massaged you before right? You didn’t tip me enough last time.” And mind you, this was for the minimum and nothing else. Their 1 hour massage is $85 and I gave him a $60 tip. Idk if there’s a certain tip etiquette that I wasn’t aware of but I thought what I gave was more than enough considering. I was truly taken aback when he said this and felt embarrassed. It left such a sour taste that I asked him he didn’t need to finish the session but he insisted. When my time was nearing its end, he went out to get a hot towel to wipe off the oil on my body which he basically half assed and asked if I wanted to finish cleaning up by myself and in my head I was like “damn” (lol). So f embarrassing so I was just like “it’s fine.” At this point, I just wanted to get the fuck out. But before he left the room, I made sure to ask how much he wanted me to tip him for our session straight up because clearly I don’t know shit and I don’t want to get it wrong the second time lol and he said I didn’t have to which I happily obliged because what the actual fuck did I just go through man? Now it all made sense how he seemed so disinterested from the get go. He was literally just putting his weight on me the first half of the session which confused me because that wasn’t how I remembered it. I thought he was just having an off day which I totally understand. Turns out, that wasn’t the case. And just to be clear, I’m not saying to avoid this place entirely. Otherwise I wouldn’t have said what I said in the beginning. In fact, I’m encouraging you to visit and experience what they have to offer! It’s one of the better men spas if not the best in NYC. Just be wary of David. 

Timothy, you are OBLIGATED to report this to management  -- not legally, of course, but for the benefit of the management, and for all of us.   Whether you tipped David $6 or $60 or $600, his behavior was  TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!    And, yes, $60 is generous.
 
Please contact the management of Top Men Spa.  They will thank you for doing so.

I’ve read about certain masseuses upselling here so I’m very well aware of it but I just didn’t expect it to come from their establishment. You’d think that because of their attention to quality they’d have a way to filter out the not so good masseuses… And yeah, I agree. It was very unprofessional especially since I was literally facing up butt naked lmfao when this conversation took place. The whole dynamic of the situation def made it feel worse.

I’ve read about certain masseuses upselling here so I’m very well aware of it but I just didn’t expect it to come from their establishment. You’d think that because of their attention to quality they’d have a way to filter out the not so good masseuses… And yeah, I agree. It was very unprofessional especially since I was literally facing up butt naked lmfao when this conversation took place. The whole dynamic of the situation def made it feel worse.

I'm not familiar with David. I'm surprised this happened there, Lynn wouldn't allow it. 
I'm curious what a spa massuer thinks is a good tip. 
Tim, I've had great experience with Lucas and Norik(?).  
Certainly bringing up tips during the massage is a buzz kill.  Your feelings are justified. 
 

Call Lynn now and report it.  Please 

This happened to me and Sebastian at TSMS. I had a 90 minute and tipped 100% 
Next time I went there his massage was lazy, thinking he was having an off day I just went with it. When I flipped over I thought he asked if I had been there before and I said “yes, I had you last time” and he responded “yes I remember, and you didn’t tip me good enough.”
I haven’t been back since. Sorry this happened to you  

It's never too late to call and report abuse and being taken advantage of!

Out of all the men’s spa I’ve been to in NYC, Top Men Spa takes the cake, Times Square Men Spa a close second. Top Men Spa definitely has everything down to a t. From the impeccable hospitality provided by their manager, Lynn, the overall cleanliness of their establishment (not to mention the size of every room), and the quality of their masseuses. That being said, I’m not sure if I’ll be coming back anytime soon considering the very awkward session I just had. The guy I asked for was David. He’s super nice, very handsome, and a great masseuse (I remember this from the first time I had him) which is why I specifically asked for him by name because this was exactly what I needed— a good, relaxing massage. However, as we were approaching the last few minutes of our session, he abruptly stops and made a gesture above my mid area which confused the fuck out of me so I asked what he meant. He goes, “I massaged you before right? You didn’t tip me enough last time.” And mind you, this was for the minimum and nothing else. Their 1 hour massage is $85 and I gave him a $60 tip. Idk if there’s a certain tip etiquette that I wasn’t aware of but I thought what I gave was more than enough considering. I was truly taken aback when he said this and felt embarrassed. It left such a sour taste that I asked him he didn’t need to finish the session but he insisted. When my time was nearing its end, he went out to get a hot towel to wipe off the oil on my body which he basically half assed and asked if I wanted to finish cleaning up by myself and in my head I was like “damn” (lol). So f embarrassing so I was just like “it’s fine.” At this point, I just wanted to get the fuck out. But before he left the room, I made sure to ask how much he wanted me to tip him for our session straight up because clearly I don’t know shit and I don’t want to get it wrong the second time lol and he said I didn’t have to which I happily obliged because what the actual fuck did I just go through man? Now it all made sense how he seemed so disinterested from the get go. He was literally just putting his weight on me the first half of the session which confused me because that wasn’t how I remembered it. I thought he was just having an off day which I totally understand. Turns out, that wasn’t the case. And just to be clear, I’m not saying to avoid this place entirely. Otherwise I wouldn’t have said what I said in the beginning. In fact, I’m encouraging you to visit and experience what they have to offer! It’s one of the better men spas if not the best in NYC. Just be wary of David. 

Don't confuse upselling (offering additional services) for a shakedown.  What you experienced was a shakedown - basically guilt tripping you into tipping more is even less acceptable than upselling in my book. 

Timothy - I feel bad for your experience, especially so because you were more than generous in giving a $60 tip for your first visit.  I hope you didn't waste your $$$ by giving David any tip after that experience.  It was uncalled for.  I'm almost thinking that he had you mixed up with someone else, still no excuse.  He needs to learn about customer service.  There isn't a shortage of Men's Spas in the city, so spend your $$$ elsewhere.

Bummer experience. I hope you reported David’s reprehensible behavior to the manager. 

You were MORE THAN GENEROUS by tipping him $60 on top of an $85 dollar massage. Clearly he was being greedy as fuck, but it’s more so the unprofessional vibe for me. I would’ve slapped fire out of him, reported him to the manager, turned over a display or two, stolen some massage oils, and walked out.
Stay away from that place, or at the very least, stay away from that specific masseur.

Out of all the men’s spa I’ve been to in NYC, Top Men Spa takes the cake, Times Square Men Spa a close second. Top Men Spa definitely has everything down to a t. From the impeccable hospitality provided by their manager, Lynn, the overall cleanliness of their establishment (not to mention the size of every room), and the quality of their masseuses. That being said, I’m not sure if I’ll be coming back anytime soon considering the very awkward session I just had. The guy I asked for was David. He’s super nice, very handsome, and a great masseuse (I remember this from the first time I had him) which is why I specifically asked for him by name because this was exactly what I needed— a good, relaxing massage. However, as we were approaching the last few minutes of our session, he abruptly stops and made a gesture above my mid area which confused the fuck out of me so I asked what he meant. He goes, “I massaged you before right? You didn’t tip me enough last time.” And mind you, this was for the minimum and nothing else. Their 1 hour massage is $85 and I gave him a $60 tip. Idk if there’s a certain tip etiquette that I wasn’t aware of but I thought what I gave was more than enough considering. I was truly taken aback when he said this and felt embarrassed. It left such a sour taste that I asked him he didn’t need to finish the session but he insisted. When my time was nearing its end, he went out to get a hot towel to wipe off the oil on my body which he basically half assed and asked if I wanted to finish cleaning up by myself and in my head I was like “damn” (lol). So f embarrassing so I was just like “it’s fine.” At this point, I just wanted to get the fuck out. But before he left the room, I made sure to ask how much he wanted me to tip him for our session straight up because clearly I don’t know shit and I don’t want to get it wrong the second time lol and he said I didn’t have to which I happily obliged because what the actual fuck did I just go through man? Now it all made sense how he seemed so disinterested from the get go. He was literally just putting his weight on me the first half of the session which confused me because that wasn’t how I remembered it. I thought he was just having an off day which I totally understand. Turns out, that wasn’t the case. And just to be clear, I’m not saying to avoid this place entirely. Otherwise I wouldn’t have said what I said in the beginning. In fact, I’m encouraging you to visit and experience what they have to offer! It’s one of the better men spas if not the best in NYC. Just be wary of David. 

Out of all the men’s spa I’ve been to in NYC, Top Men Spa takes the cake, Times Square Men Spa a close second. Top Men Spa definitely has everything down to a t. From the impeccable hospitality provided by their manager, Lynn, the overall cleanliness of their establishment (not to mention the size of every room), and the quality of their masseuses. That being said, I’m not sure if I’ll be coming back anytime soon considering the very awkward session I just had. The guy I asked for was David. He’s super nice, very handsome, and a great masseuse (I remember this from the first time I had him) which is why I specifically asked for him by name because this was exactly what I needed— a good, relaxing massage. However, as we were approaching the last few minutes of our session, he abruptly stops and made a gesture above my mid area which confused the fuck out of me so I asked what he meant. He goes, “I massaged you before right? You didn’t tip me enough last time.” And mind you, this was for the minimum and nothing else. Their 1 hour massage is $85 and I gave him a $60 tip. Idk if there’s a certain tip etiquette that I wasn’t aware of but I thought what I gave was more than enough considering. I was truly taken aback when he said this and felt embarrassed. It left such a sour taste that I asked him he didn’t need to finish the session but he insisted. When my time was nearing its end, he went out to get a hot towel to wipe off the oil on my body which he basically half assed and asked if I wanted to finish cleaning up by myself and in my head I was like “damn” (lol). So f embarrassing so I was just like “it’s fine.” At this point, I just wanted to get the fuck out. But before he left the room, I made sure to ask how much he wanted me to tip him for our session straight up because clearly I don’t know shit and I don’t want to get it wrong the second time lol and he said I didn’t have to which I happily obliged because what the actual fuck did I just go through man? Now it all made sense how he seemed so disinterested from the get go. He was literally just putting his weight on me the first half of the session which confused me because that wasn’t how I remembered it. I thought he was just having an off day which I totally understand. Turns out, that wasn’t the case. And just to be clear, I’m not saying to avoid this place entirely. Otherwise I wouldn’t have said what I said in the beginning. In fact, I’m encouraging you to visit and experience what they have to offer! It’s one of the better men spas if not the best in NYC. Just be wary of David.