"Honest in our judgments and truthful in our reporting "

[bigpeteratlanta]

Good Morning, I can only speak for myself. Always Hiring, your statement about me posting under different names is 100% FALSE. Or if we want to be less politically correct.. your statement about me is A LIE. If you care to check, my ISP is a small company here in Atlanta. I'm sure the other names your mention nor anyone else on this board uses this server.

You only make a fool of yourself by making such untrue statements

that are easy to disprove. To everyone else here, have a wonderul Holiday Season

[Guest alanm]

RE: "Honest in our judgments and truthful in our reporting "

 

>>Regardless, it's not worth my time to search but I find it

>amusing >that neither of you are willing to POST THE LINK.

>Kind of proves a >point for me until you do. Even then on the

>off chance everything >he "said" is there it's probably out of

>context and still >irrelevant to the actual ISSUE of

>accusations of selling coverboy. >If that were the case I'd be

>broke by now

>

>How do you know it is irrelevant? You won't even take the time

>to look for the post. Is this the methodology you use to form

>all your baseless opinions?

>

>Also, who the fuck are you to challenge my intentions? I began

>a thread stating my perception and asking others for there

>thoughts on the subject. You've made about a dozen posts in

>this thread alone about everything but the actual context of

>my original post.

>

>If you don't like what I post, it is pretty simple to ignore

>it, isn't it?

>

>- Dallas Observer

 

 

I agree with Scott on this one. You do not have to be a member of this message center for very long to know that you wanted to start some trouble by initiating this thread. I support EscortSpeak and will check out the quote, but someone should have posted a link.

[RockHard]

RE: What Adam4BlackMen said.

 

"Can you honestly not see yourself reflected in the comments you've made? Seems to me that if you wiped the mirror in that filthy public toilet, you'd see your face reflected back..."

 

Did I attack someone personally with my comments above? No, I did not.

 

Recognizing that stereotypes exist and acknowledging that not all steroetypes are pretty and altruistic is quite far from a personal malicious attack. I am not a malicious man, I love being gay and successful, and I do not attack anyone, on forum boards or in real life, with malice intent.

 

Adam, your post is rude and is a personal attack. Too bad you can't see the difference.

 

Here are a few more gay men stereotypes that simply aren't true:

 

1. Gay men are better educated with better reading comprehension skills.

 

2. Gay men make more money.

 

3. Gay men have style.

 

4. Gay men are happy, that's why they call them gay.

[AlwaysHiring]

I just searched some posts and remembered one of the other screen names this deceitful loser uses is DanKnight2005 = MuscleLover = BigPeterAtlanta = UptownMike.

 

Others have said the same thing, I see. It is the most transparent thing ever. It's not exactly a crime or a big deal. I'm just amazed that someone would bother, and then deny it when they get caught.

 

He always says the same thing:

 

(1) daddy is great, he's doing a great job, everything daddy does is terrific;

 

(2) some people who have been kicked out should have been;

 

(3) Rick Murnoe ruins the board with political posts;

 

(4) Super muscular guys like the ones at muscleservice.com are hot and nobody else is;

 

(5) Conservative guys like the "hunks" at Fox, like Sean Hannity, are hot, and liberal gay groups are bad and wrong.

 

I have nothing against this guy and am not hoping anything is done. It's just interesting to me.

 

I saw Rick's post observing that they were all the same guy and then started noticing how he trots the same screen names out over and over in the same threads always saying the same thing in "support" of each other.

 

I dont' really get what would possess someone to go through the trouble, but c'est la vi, or whatever that is.

[Guest Adam4BlackMen]

RE: What Adam4BlackMen said.

 

>Did I attack someone personally with my comments above? No, I

>did not.

>

>Recognizing that stereotypes exist and acknowledging that not

>all steroetypes are pretty and altruistic is quite far from a

>personal malicious attack. I am not a malicious man, I love

>being gay and successful, and I do not attack anyone, on forum

>boards or in real life, with malice intent.

>

>Adam, your post is rude and is a personal attack. Too bad you

>can't see the difference.

 

I can see clearly now, the rain is gone.

 

What I was trying to point out is that you were stooping to the level of those you claim wallow in the gutter. There was no "personal attack" involved. It astonished me how we cannot even disagree without someone resorting to drama and/or histrionics. If you loathe those on Escortspeak, why not raise the level of discourse then?

[woodlawn]

RE: What Scott Adler said.

 

>>Some gay men are notorious for only playing bitchy and

>>malicious.>

>

>>Thank goodness some of the ugly have left the table. Good

>>riddance!

>

> Can you really find a better example of

>>gay men who love to hate other gay men? There isn't a kind,

>>gentle soul in sight over there.

 

 

>Can you honestly not see yourself reflected in the comments

>you've made? Seems to me that if you wiped the mirror in that

>filthy public toilet, you'd see your face reflected back...

 

Adam, you need to understand that there a quite a few posters here who complain endlessly about the ugliness of others' posts but who never hesitate to engage in nasty personal attacks when they feel like doing so. RockHard is merely one of a large group who fit that description and Scott Adler is another. Such people have been a feature of this site since it was first created and, I'm sorry to say, probably always will be. And no matter how many times you try to get it into their heads, they are never going to acknowledge how inappropriate it is for them to complain about behavior and then indulge in exactly the same behavior themselves.

[SAdler]

RE: "Honest in our judgments and truthful in our reporting "

 

>Please don't lie (again).

 

That is your standby retort isn’t it. I’m still waiting for proof of where I LIED about something. You always just use that as an excuse to remind us of silly youthful transgressions. So please, by all means tell the story again. I know you love doing it

 

>I meant what I said: I don't agree

>that it would be inadmissible in court. You still have not

>succeeded in understanding the definition of "hearsay."

 

Vincent “allegedly” typed something. REGARDLESS of whether or not what he types actually exists. FA’s reposting of it would not hold ANY value unless the original document was verified.

 

>I think all it proves is that neither of us feels like doing

>you a favor. And that neither of us cares what you believe or

>don't believe.

 

What FAVOR are you doing for me by posting that? I have nothing to gain. I’m not at a loss until you do. Can only “help” you guys.

 

LOL. It’s not just what I believe. Everyone else but you two in this thread have said it’s interesting that you guys refuse to post the link. I recall the entire thread but I know the exact CONTEXT changes its meaning. You boys in the snake pit there LOVE taking things out of context and using it to create propaganda. It’s a nifty skill, congratulations on perfecting it.

 

>As I recall, VM was making exactly the point FA has claimed:

>that he got preferential treatment by paying HB more. Anyone

>who wants to verify that can simply go and look at his post.

 

Yeah. Reading the post (or from what I recall) VM was specifically referencing “Ad Placement.” That means the ads like boybatter.com and masseurfinder.com that you find on the home page.

 

“But in all honesty i always felt that I had always gotten special treatment just as Premier gets special treatment...notice most if not all there escorts first reviews are from first reviewers. My special treatment was in the forum of Coverboy of the day and I know this to be true only because every time I increased my ad spending id get Coverboy of the day.”

 

Once again his words have been spun by you venomous insects. He made a silly remark but at face value is still proof of nothing. “He felt” and “I know this to be true” carry the same weight. If he increased his ad spending and he got coverboy, big whoop. There just could have been no competition on those days. If it were that easy to get coverboy I can guarantee any and every escort would do it and then it would not work. For me the amount of business gained by a coverboy on this site is unparalleled (except perhaps by featured posts on blogs by Neal and Dallas…er…M4M)

 

>Please stop making things up. No one, including me, said

>"anyone else could do it." This probably wouldn't occur to

>someone like you, but for one thing not everyone wants to be

>in the porn business no matter how lucrative it may be.

 

LOL. I’m not IN the porn business, I’m in the prostitution industry – there’s a difference. You’re right though, I have no intention of doing porn … ever.

 

>Almost every business, from chemicals to real estate, is

>"beneficial to other people" in that it provides something

>other people need or want. That doesn't make everyone in

>every such business a noble, self-sacrificing person. As for

>your statement that there are MILLIONS of other things the

>people behind this site could be doing that would make more

>money and take less time, how exactly would you know that?

 

Did they teach Hyperbole when you went to school? I guess they spent all their time on the BASICS of Irony because they totally missed that and sarcasm

 

THE POINT OF THIS SITE IS TO HELP POTENTIAL CLIENTS FIGURE OUT WHICH ESCORTS TO HIRE. Those other industries have corporate aspects to them. They’re selling a product which affects a business and then stock holders yadda yadda blah blah blah. This site is designed to help individual people. I’m not saying people who run this site are the ONLY self-sacrificing people in the world but it’s sad you cant acknowledge how much work actually goes into this site that someone like you would not be willing to do – because I’m sure (and I mean this sincerely) you have other things to do. Daddy et al have opted to make this the thing that THEY do. You don’t see them bitching about your occupational choices.

 

>>Your head must be PRETTY far up your ass to make a comment

>>like that, just an observation.

>

>I hope you won't keep telling the lie that you don't engage in

>personal attacks after making that "observation."

 

It’s not so much an attack as an assumption and observation

 

>Not having been present at the creation, you have no idea what

>you are talking about. As usual.

 

LOL. I wasn’t there. You’re right. But then what WAS it created for? Mindless and malicious personal attacks on people? In some cases from people like you attacks on people’s psychological stability? That’s sick and just sad. Message boards are all created for exchanges of ideas. Respect is simply something implicitly assumed by human beings of sound mind.

 

>But not this one. The hate speech in your posts above is

>hardly what anyone would call "respectful."

 

I would love an example of this supposed hate speech that isn’t simply a retort to someone else’s bile.

 

>You don't tell people what NOT to say. You simply engage in

>vicious personal attacks against anyone who says anything you

>don't like. I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

Mine are not vicious nor are they personal attacks, anything NEGATIVE I say is simply retaliatory. If they were actually personal attacks they are more than welcome to complain and when I stepped over the line with Erik way back when and was chastised the same will happen again.

[woodlawn]

RE: "Honest in our judgments and truthful in our reporting "

 

>>Please don't lie (again).

>

>That is your standby retort isn’t it. I’m still waiting for

>proof of where I LIED about something.

 

Isn't your own admission that you lied to clients about your age proof enough?

 

 

>Vincent “allegedly” typed something. REGARDLESS of whether or

>not what he types actually exists. FA’s reposting of it would

>not hold ANY value unless the original document was verified.

 

That is utter nonsense. The original is available and can be examined by anyone who cares to see it. Why do you lie about that?

 

 

>What FAVOR are you doing for me by posting that?

 

You apparently wanted FA to save you the trouble of spending 30 seconds doing a search for the thread on escortspeak. You told us you "don't have time" to do that. But you have plenty of time to engage in silly badinage in this and other threads.

 

 

>LOL. It’s not just what I believe. Everyone else but you two

>in this thread have said it’s interesting that you guys refuse

>to post the link.

 

"Everyone" is what, two or three people? Gosh, how can that many people be wrong?

 

 

> I recall the entire thread but I know the

>exact CONTEXT changes its meaning. You boys in the snake pit

>there LOVE taking things out of context and using it to create

>propaganda. It’s a nifty skill, congratulations on perfecting

>it.

 

You're lying again. VM clearly stated that he observed a correlation between his payments to HB and the treatment he received. No matter how many times you try to spin that away, the statement remains what it is.

 

 

>“But in all honesty i always felt that I had always gotten

>special treatment just as Premier gets special

>treatment...notice most if not all there escorts first reviews

>are from first reviewers. My special treatment was in the

>forum of Coverboy of the day and I know this to be true only

>because every time I increased my ad spending id get Coverboy

>of the day.”

>

>Once again his words have been spun by you venomous insects.

 

You are a liar. Once again, VM clearly stated he observed a correlation between his ad spending and treatment that is supposedly in no way related to ad spending. That is the point FA made and it is amply supported by what VM said.

 

 

>>Please stop making things up. No one, including me, said

>>"anyone else could do it." This probably wouldn't occur to

>>someone like you, but for one thing not everyone wants to be

>>in the porn business no matter how lucrative it may be.

>

>LOL. I’m not IN the porn business, I’m in the prostitution

>industry – there’s a difference.

 

We were not talking about you, but about the management of this site. Why lie about that?

 

 

>Did they teach Hyperbole when you went to school?

 

Yes. They even taught that the word is not supposed to be capitalized when used in the middle of a sentence.

 

> I guess

>they spent all their time on the BASICS of Irony because they

>totally missed that and sarcasm

 

If your use of the word MILLIONS is mere hyperbole, then you should be able to tell us at least some of the other things management could be doing that would involve more money and less effort than running this site, which is the point you were trying to make. Okay, give us a list of a dozen.

 

> Daddy et al have

>opted to make this the thing that THEY do. You don’t see them

>bitching about your occupational choices.

 

Are you suffering from amnesia? Just a few weeks ago Daddy posted the latest of many complaints he has put on this board concerning the amount of work he must do to maintain it and the ingratitude and lack of cooperation he deals with in doing so.

 

 

>>>Your head must be PRETTY far up your ass to make a comment

>>>like that, just an observation.

 

>>I hope you won't keep telling the lie that you don't engage

>in

>>personal attacks after making that "observation."

 

>It’s not so much an attack as an assumption and observation

 

You are a liar. Why lie about something so obvious?

 

 

>LOL. I wasn’t there. You’re right. But then what WAS it

>created for? Mindless and malicious personal attacks on

>people?

 

As someone who has repeatedly engaged in such attacks (see above), you are hardly in a position to complain that others engage in them also. But you keep doing it anyway, you hypocrite.

 

 

>>But not this one. The hate speech in your posts above is

>>hardly what anyone would call "respectful."

 

>Mine are not vicious nor are they personal attacks, anything

>NEGATIVE I say is simply retaliatory.

 

If you examine the MC rules you will not find that the rule against personal attacks contains an exception for those that are retaliatory. No one forces you to reply to personal attacks on you by making personal attacks of your own -- that is a choice that you make. Please don't lie about that as well.

 

 

> If they were actually

>personal attacks they are more than welcome to complain

 

No one complains because no one cares. That includes me.