Escort murderers convicted here today, so WHO can you trust???????

[Tonyko]

(keep in mind he KNEW them and had hired them regularly before)

Two Male prostitutes who claimed their florist client died during 'raw sex' session in his New York apartment found guilty of murder.

 

A pair of male prostitutes have been convicted of murder after abducting, robbing and slaying a florist inside his New York City home - before telling police he accidentally died during 'raw sex'.

Juan Carlos Martinez-Herrera and Edwin Faulkner were found guilty of murder, kidnapping and robbery by a Manhattan jury yesterday - two years after John Laubach was suffocated to death.

Laubach, 57, a regular client of the prostitutes, was discovered tied to a bed post with an electrical cord in March 2012. His hands and feet were tied together and he had duct tape over his mouth.

Although his Chelsea apartment had clearly been ransacked, cops found no signs of forced entry.

An autopsy later revealed Laubach's cause of death was asphyxiation.

 

 

Following the grim discovery, Martinez-Herrera and Faulkner were arrested on suspicion of killing Laubach, who was well-known in his neighbourhood for carrying his pet parrot on his shoulder,

They told police that the victim - whom the court heard 'regularly paid' young Hispanic males for sex - had accidentally suffocated to death during a particularly rough sex session at his apartment.

 

But yesterday, jurors at Manhattan's Supreme Court found the two prostitutes guilty of first-degree murder following less than a day of deliberations, according to the New York Daily News.

 

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Florist: Laubach, 57, was found dead in March 2012

 

They now face up to life in prison.

 

Faulkner's lawyer, Daniel Scott, had earlier addressed the court, saying the killing was accidental.

 

'John Laubach died engaged in raw sex for which no one is criminally responsible,' he said.

 

 

Martinez-Herrera, meanwhile, testified in his own defense.

 

He claimed that Laubach was performing a sex act on him when he turned 'purple and blue'.

 

He added that Faulkner had told him to leave Laubach strapped to the bed on March 2, 2012, because police would not believe that he had died accidentally, the Daily News reports.

 

They stole valuables from the victim to make it look like a botched robbery, he said.

 

Martinez-Herrera's lawyer, Daniel Parker, had previously testified on the murderer's behalf.

 

At an earlier hearing, he said: 'The evidence will show that after Mr Laubach died that these two young men did certain things which at first blush might not make sense to you.'

 

 

The two men fled to Florida after the killing, where they were arrested, according to the Daily News.

 

It is thought police were able to catch them after monitoring their cell-phone activity.

 

 

Both Faulkner and Martinez-Herrera are no strangers to the law.

 

Faulkner has several prior arrests, including drug possession and selling fake marijuana.

 

Meanwhile, Martinez-Herrera has a criminal record in Florida.

 

 

The pair will be sentenced on December 7

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Convicted: Edwin Faulkner (left) and Juan Carlos Martinez-Herrera (right) were found guilty of murder, kidnapping and robbery yesterday - two years after John Laubach was slayed in his New York City home

 

 

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3286488/Male-prostitutes-claimed-florist-died-raw-sex-session-New-York-City-apartment-guilty-murder.html#ixzz3pSr07mMZ

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[BaronArtz]

I remember reading about this 2 years ago, when Mr. Laubach's body was found by the police. What a horrible story. Somebody's fetish session gone really bad. I don't recognize the pictures of the 2 convicts, I don't think they were on any of the major escort websites. Nor does it appear they were reviewed on this very website. I wonder where he found them.

[Tonyko]

I remember reading about this 2 years ago, when Mr. Laubach's body was found by the police. What a horrible story. Somebody's fetish session gone really bad. I don't recognize the pictures of the 2 convicts, I don't think they were on any of the major escort websites. Nor does it appear they were reviewed on this very website. I wonder where he found them.

When it first happened (my Uncle lives in Chelsea knew the man slightly re his bird he was a fixture whom the whole hood knew) I remember "assuming" they were CList or BPage escorts, but given the prev CList killers in the press I imagine that would have been pretty publicized if it were the case. So my guess is BP. (at least initially, but press never said HOW long he'd been using them so maybe they no longer had an Ad by the time of the murder etc so maybe the "where they met" was never discovered.

*and of course it's always poss they were street pick-ups initially, but that's a little 60's for the New York of 2012.

** the 2ND guy always looked familiar to me, like I'd seen him in porn, but again that prolly would have made the press too were it the case.

[BaronArtz]

*and of course it's always poss they were street pick-ups initially, but that's a little 60's for the New York of 2012.

 

My hunch is they were street pick-ups. There still are lots of street hustlers in the West Village. Many of them homeless or quasi-homeless. In 2O15.

 

I am still inclined to think this was a fetish scene gone bad, more than murder. Murder implies premeditated intent, does it not? If they wanted to rob him, they just would have robbed him. Period. Was he going to call the police?

 

Sad story all around.

[caliguy]

Damn. Looking at the first one ie thug my red flags/siren would be blaring off the hook. He just looks like he wants to kill you.

[Frequentflier]

These two escorts are ugly so he shouldn't have spent any time with them in the first place, let alone allow them in his home.

[gallahadesquire]

A friend of mine was found dead, bag over his head, loosely tied, and hands bound. I think that was an asphyxiation gone bad.

[BaronArtz]

I asked somebody who knows the street scene in the West Village. The first guy is/was a well known street hustler. He was a gay member of the Bloods. He made his money mostly from fucking trannies. He had a reputation for messing some of them up pretty badly. When he broke up with them, he took everything. Since most trannies are prostitutes anyway, they just couldn't go to the cops.

 

The second guy is a virtual unknown. I find his features a bit feminine. A trannie is training maybe? They could have been a couple.

 

You just never know.

[Irtwo]

Here's the prior thread on this. It was reported they met at an 8th Ave video shop.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/chelsea-man-slain-rentboy-connection.85955/#post-780526

[Tonyko]

THANKS for all the added info guys, when the story broke I must have missed the disclosure of where they met and how briefly he knew these boys, so my assumptions were wrong. And obvs the jury saw past the rough sex accidental asphyxia related death defense ploy which seems to be a common ploy for guys who murder gay men, bag over head it's what HE wanted etc etc. (often the individual isn't even INTO that type of thing etc) Obvs the jury didn't buy it and also saw some intent or premeditation too.

Guess bottom line is a bringing a street/arcade etc pick up into your home is always a risk, even if you meet on Madison in Marc Jacob suits, and a street/arcade HUSTLER pick up in your home is an even worse one. TWO at once, well, worst of the worst ideas. And this poor man paid the price.

I have a bud who does this, loves picking up homeless men street boys etc and taking them home to photograph (and do more if they're willing.) He says he "feels" safe because he's in a upscale doorman building cameras etc but I've been begging him to stop. He shows me their pics, if they were walking behind me at night I'd cross to the other side. (as someone already stated these murderes are not rocket scientists they don't think about cameras doormen etc and fact that this may lead to their capture does my bud little good if he's dead on the floor with his head bashed in by one of his Botero's. I'm just glad we live in a time when the "blame the queer" or "Straight Panic" kinds of defense no longer fly.

[AdamSmith]

Tonyko has an important point about criminals working in pairs. I've picked up more than one ex-Rikers type, not necessarily smart but I still be here to tell of it. The time I messed up was bringing home an anonymous pair (i.e., just met them that night) who collaborated to steal the laptop and iPhone. Thankfully only that and not a kidney or worse.

[bigvalboy]

Tonyko has an important point about criminals working in pairs. I've picked up more than one ex-Rikers type, not necessarily smart but I still be here to tell of it. The time I messed up was bringing home an anonymous pair (i.e., just met them that night) who collaborated to steal the laptop and iPhone. Thankfully only that and not a kidney or worse.

 

 

I concur...

[Tonyko]

Tonyko has an important point about criminals working in pairs. I've picked up more than one ex-Rikers type, not necessarily smart but I still be here to tell of it. The time I messed up was bringing home an anonymous pair (i.e., just met them that night) who collaborated to steal the laptop and iPhone. Thankfully only that and not a kidney or worse.

Unless it's Scort Royality, like T. Baldwin and...(well anyone else as long as Tristan's one of em lol) I think hiring duo's will always carry some risk, ESP if it's in your home or your hotel or someplace they can simply walk away from, REGARDLESS of where you found them or HOW well the FIRST encounter may have gone. What's MOST surprising about this case is that he told friends they had ALREADY robbed him, I forget what was missing electronics I think, yet he STILL had them back. I sometimes wonder if the danger element is part of the lure?? (and in fairness to the victim w/o knowing all the facts, we should also consider the poss that they contacted him that one last time with a sob story or an apology and desire to return what they took etc so he would have them over again etc )

*I was at a bud's house in LA right after a duo he'd hired had left, he praised them had a great time no danger at all. I asked if one of them had used the hall bathroom. He said yes and asked why? (it had a sliding glass door that opened into a tiny walled in garden area) I was pissing and looked down and saw a piece of wood shoved behind the toilet. It was the BAR that sat in the track of the door to stop it from opening. The lock on the slider was also flipped open) I showed him. Its was OBVS the plan was for one of them to take care of re-entry, then both come back later when he was asleep and rob him/or worse?? Who knows. Had I not come by and pissed he never would have known. (I stayed with him that night baseball bat in hand, we left lights blazing, fell asleep so never saw if they came back tried the door and left, BUT that wall had potted plants on it and the next morning one of them was on the ground.

** PS he showed me the pix they'd sent him (this was the old AOL "Companions" chat room days) ADORABLE, two hot little fratboys. Ya never knowo_O

[robberbaron4u]

The fact of the matter is prostitution is a dimly lit "two-way" street with inherent danger for the consumer and the provider, and, the "play at your own risk" rule is applicable in any given "hire".