Alert!! Alert!!Star Trek Aficionados-The Lost Gay Episode!!!

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Long-Suppressed Gay Star Trek Episode Comes Out

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Annalee Newitz

Filed to: STAR TREK12/18/08 2:38pm

 

 

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David Gerrold, famous for writing the "Trouble with Tribbles" Star Trek episode, also wrote an episode that included gay characters - but it was shot down by Paramount. Now you can watch it online.

 

To make the episode, Gerrold teamed up with the fan crew behind Star Trek: Phase II, a web series that's intended to be the fourth season of the original series. He dusted off his gay-themed script, called "Blood and Fire," and also directed it. Originally, "Blood and Fire" was written for Star Trek: TNG, and approved by series creator Gene Roddenberry, but executives at the network balked. Gerrold says they told him they were worried they'd lose their advertisers because "mommies" would call in to complain that they'd seen gay people on Star Trek.

 

For the webisode, Gerrold re-wrote the script to bring it up to date with issues like gay marriage, and also to make the characters more openly gay. In the original, they were portrayed as friends - the only hint that they were gay was one character asking them how long they'd been together. In the new version, as you can see in the clip below, there's no question that they're lovers.

 

The episode is about the Enterprise responding to a distress call, and dealing with scary "bloodworms." It introduces a new character, Peter Kirk, the gay nephew of the captain.

 

According to AfterElton's Brent Hartinger, who has seen the full episode:

 

There's tension between Peter and his famous uncle, who is determined to keep him out of harm's way, even if it means treating him differently than the other crewmembers. Eventually, Peter reveals the real reason he requested a stint on the Enterprise: to be near his boyfriend, Alex Freeman (Evan Fowler). When the couple make plans to marry, Kirk agrees to officiate, but only "after the away mission" - which may or may not bode well for the future of this relationship . . . The portrayal of Peter and Alex's romantic relationship is treated no differently than any of the dozens of heterosexual relationships the various Star Trek incarnations have included over the decades. Indeed, the storyline is incorporated so naturally as to make the "official" Trek's inexcusable lack of gay characters even more obvious. .....

 

 

(Note-the article goes on to talk about when the episode will be released. But as the article is from 7 years ago, we are lucky enough to have the entire two part episode right here, right now!!!)

 

 

 

Gman

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I watched the first part-it was a different link than the one I posted. It wasn't bad. And the boyfriend scene was handled very well.

 

Gman

[sincitymix]

Long-Suppressed Gay Star Trek Episode Comes Out

61,366

1

Annalee Newitz

Filed to: STAR TREK12/18/08 2:38pm

 

 

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--h8ZQDcl_--/18m5aydn7ao1fjpg.jpg

 

 

David Gerrold, famous for writing the "Trouble with Tribbles" Star Trek episode, also wrote an episode that included gay characters - but it was shot down by Paramount. Now you can watch it online.

 

To make the episode, Gerrold teamed up with the fan crew behind Star Trek: Phase II, a web series that's intended to be the fourth season of the original series. He dusted off his gay-themed script, called "Blood and Fire," and also directed it. Originally, "Blood and Fire" was written for Star Trek: TNG, and approved by series creator Gene Roddenberry, but executives at the network balked. Gerrold says they told him they were worried they'd lose their advertisers because "mommies" would call in to complain that they'd seen gay people on Star Trek.

 

For the webisode, Gerrold re-wrote the script to bring it up to date with issues like gay marriage, and also to make the characters more openly gay. In the original, they were portrayed as friends - the only hint that they were gay was one character asking them how long they'd been together. In the new version, as you can see in the clip below, there's no question that they're lovers.

 

The episode is about the Enterprise responding to a distress call, and dealing with scary "bloodworms." It introduces a new character, Peter Kirk, the gay nephew of the captain.

 

According to AfterElton's Brent Hartinger, who has seen the full episode:

 

There's tension between Peter and his famous uncle, who is determined to keep him out of harm's way, even if it means treating him differently than the other crewmembers. Eventually, Peter reveals the real reason he requested a stint on the Enterprise: to be near his boyfriend, Alex Freeman (Evan Fowler). When the couple make plans to marry, Kirk agrees to officiate, but only "after the away mission" - which may or may not bode well for the future of this relationship . . . The portrayal of Peter and Alex's romantic relationship is treated no differently than any of the dozens of heterosexual relationships the various Star Trek incarnations have included over the decades. Indeed, the storyline is incorporated so naturally as to make the "official" Trek's inexcusable lack of gay characters even more obvious. .....

 

 

(Note-the article goes on to talk about when the episode will be released. But as the article is from 7 years ago, we are lucky enough to have the entire two part episode right here, right now!!!)

 

 

 

Gman

 

Uh oh! Hes wearing a red shirt!! everyone knows red shirts do not survive away missions!! :P

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Uh oh! Hes wearing a red shirt!! everyone knows red shirts do not survive away missions!! :p

 

There's line in the story by Bones. He says something like, "We don't put targets on red shirts anymore, Jim." It's a very weird statement. Is it breaking the 4th wall or not? I mean all of us know that red shirts often die. But I can't imagine within the 'world of Star Trek' they would take notice of this. Otherwise no one would ever want to wear a red tunic. In later episodes Scotty often wore red, and while he was occasionally injured, he was never killed.

 

Gman

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I wonder who the characters were in the original script, seeing as it was written for TNG, not TOS.

 

While this would have been a ground-breaking episode had it aired, and still is somewhat groundbreaking now, Kirk and Spock have been gay for each other in fanfiction since the 70s. The way that pairing was written in story headings-- Kirk/Spock instead of Kirk & Spock -- is thought to be the origin of the term "slash" to denote fanfic that depicts male characters in a romantic and/or sexual relationship. The term "femslash" was later coined to refer to fanfic that depicts female characters in such relationships.

 

I'd love to see a lead character in a mainstream show be lesbian, gay, or in a same-sex relationship or a series of such relationships without that being the show's main focus. Torchwood comes close, but Captain Jack Harkness' omnisexuality reassured heterosexual viewers that he also loved the ladies. Ditto Lost Girl, where the main character's bisexuality is related to her need as a succubus for more than one partner to replenish her energy. Both are examples of the way in which bisexuality, often even more disfavored and marginalized than same-sex attraction in real life, is perceived as more relatable and less alienating for the viewing audience.

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I wonder who the characters were in the original script, seeing as it was written for TNG, not TOS.

 

While this would have been a ground-breaking episode had it aired, and still is somewhat groundbreaking now, Kirk and Spock have been gay for each other in fanfiction since the 70s.

 

I don't think I've ever really thought about them being gay. But you are right. Internet searching certainly shows that others have.

 

http://gusgreeper.com/uploads/Closetotheheart.jpg

 

The way that pairing was written in sorry headings-- Kirk/Spock instead of Kirk & Spock -- is thought to be the origin of the term "slash" to denote fanfic that depicts male characters in a romantic and/or sexual relationship. The term "femslash" was later coined to refer to fanfic that depicts female characters in such relationships.

 

That's really interesting. I didn't know anything about the 'slash'. If you hadn't told me, I guess I would interpret it as being for any couple-not necessarily gay one.

 

Gman

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There's line in the story by Bones. He says something like, "We don't put targets on red shirts anymore, Jim." It's a very weird statement. Is it breaking the 4th wall or not? I mean all of us know that red shirts often die. But I can't imagine within the 'world of Star Trek' they would take notice of this. Otherwise no one would ever want to wear a red tunic. In later episodes Scotty often wore red, and while he was occasionally injured, he was never killed.

 

Gman

Scotty was a main character. main characters don't die in st

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There's line in the story by Bones. He says something like, "We don't put targets on red shirts anymore, Jim." It's a very weird statement. Is it breaking the 4th wall or not? I mean all of us know that red shirts often die. But I can't imagine within the 'world of Star Trek' they would take notice of this. Otherwise no one would ever want to wear a red tunic. In later episodes Scotty often wore red, and while he was occasionally injured, he was never killed.

 

Gman

 

Scotty was a main character. main characters don't die in st

 

Tell that to Tasha-

 

http://trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tashayar/tasha_s1b.jpg

 

And Kes!!!

 

http://www.startrekdesktopwallpaper.com/new_wallpaper/Star_Trek_Voyager_Kes_freecomputerdesktopwallpaper_p.jpg

 

 

Gman

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Tell that to Tasha-

 

http://trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tashayar/tasha_s1b.jpg

 

And Kes!!!

 

http://www.startrekdesktopwallpaper.com/new_wallpaper/Star_Trek_Voyager_Kes_freecomputerdesktopwallpaper_p.jpg

 

 

Gman

 

Well Tasha had to die.. Crosby wanted out of her contract to pursue a movie acting career . If I remember correctly, they said if you walk away we will kill off Tasha and you wont be able to come back.. well she did come back much much later as sela.. but you know.. burning bridges and such..

 

Kes was going to die anyways, her lifespan was what 7 years??

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Kes was going to die anyways, her lifespan was what 7 years??

 

I came across her lifespan while searching for her picture. It was 9 years. Unfortunately the actress has fallen on some difficult times.

 

 

‘Star Trek’ Actress Arrested After Allegedly Exposing Herself to Kids: Report

POSTED 5:46 AM, SEPTEMBER 16, 2015, BY CNN WIRE, UPDATED AT 08:08AM, SEPTEMBER 16, 2015

 

An actress best known for “Star Trek: Voyager” was arrested on September 3.

 

Jennifer Ann Lien, who played Kes on “Star Trek: Voyager,” was arrested on September 3, 2015, in Harriman, Tennessee. She was charged with indecent exposure. (Credit: Roane Co. Sheriff’s Department)

 

Jennifer Lien, who played Kes in the first few seasons of the “Star Trek” spinoff series, has been charged with indecent exposure.

 

According to CNN affiliate WATE, Lien was arrested in her home in Harriman, Tennessee.

 

Neighbor Carey Smith told WATE that Lien came by her home to comment on how Smith’s children were being raised and started using vulgar language.

 

“All of a sudden, here come the shirt up,” said Smith.

 

“She started flashing and, ‘Woo hoo,’ and I said, ‘And what respect is that for kids?’ There was none. And then she turned around and dropped her pants.”

 

According to the affiliate, Lien was found naked on her couch by deputies and resisted walking to the patrol car after threatening to kill the officers.

 

Lien was clothed and carried out to the car.

 

Citing police, WATE reported that the actress had exposed herself to children.

 

The actress’ character on “Voyager” was Kes, an alien from a mentally advanced race with only a nine-year lifespan. The series aired from 1995 to 2001 for seven seasons.

 

The Harriman Police Department also said that Lien has a record that includes aggravated assault, domestic assault, resisting arrest, evading arrest and reckless endangerment.

 

As of Tuesday night, Lien remained in jail.

 

Gman

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I don't think I've ever really thought about them being gay. But you are right. Internet searching certainly shows that others have.

 

http://gusgreeper.com/uploads/Closetotheheart.jpg

 

 

 

That's really interesting. I didn't know anything about the 'slash'. If you hadn't told me, I guess I would interpret it as being for any couple-not necessarily gay one.

 

Gman

 

I never watched TOS, but think about the ending of Wrath of Khan and the way Kirk and Spock were each willing to sacrifice themselves for the other. That's the kind of thing we do for people who we love, whose well-being is more important than our own lives.

 

You're not entirely alone, but the rest of us divide up the fanfic world into slash, femslash, and het (short for heterosexual) for stories about sexual/romantic relationships and gen (short for general) for stories that are neither romantic nor sexual in nature.

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I wonder who the characters were in the original script, seeing as it was written for TNG, not TOS.

 

While this would have been a ground-breaking episode had it aired, and still is somewhat groundbreaking now, Kirk and Spock have been gay for each other in fanfiction since the 70s. The way that pairing was written in story headings-- Kirk/Spock instead of Kirk & Spock -- is thought to be the origin of the term "slash" to denote fanfic that depicts male characters in a romantic and/or sexual relationship. The term "femslash" was later coined to refer to fanfic that depicts female characters in such relationships.

 

I'd love to see a lead character in a mainstream show be lesbian, gay, or in a same-sex relationship or a series of such relationships without that being the show's main focus. Torchwood comes close, but Captain Jack Harkness' omnisexuality reassured heterosexual viewers that he also loved the ladies. Ditto Lost Girl, where the main character's bisexuality is related to her need as a succubus for more than one partner to replenish her energy. Both are examples of the way in which bisexuality, often even more disfavored and marginalized than same-sex attraction in real life, is perceived as more relatable and less alienating for the viewing audience.

I love Captain Jack. No disrespect to Ianto, but I always thought Jack should've been with Gwen.

T

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I never watched TOS, but think about the ending of Wrath of Khan and the way Kirk and Spock were each willing to sacrifice themselves for the other. That's the kind of thing we do for people who we love, whose well-being is more important than our own lives.

 

 

Well best friends might. It doesn't have to be a lover type relationship. After all 'Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

 

I love Captain Jack. No disrespect to Ianto, but I always thought Jack should've been with Gwen.

T

 

Are those characters from Torchwood?

 

Gman

[tyro]

Well best friends might. It doesn't have to be a lover type relationship. After all 'Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

 

 

 

Are those characters from Torchwood?

 

Gman

Yes. I miss Torchwood.

T

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I love Captain Jack. No disrespect to Ianto, but I always thought Jack should've been with Gwen.

T

 

I've only seen Torchwood: Miracle Day. BBC America was running repeats. As far as I know, every Torchwood fan I know hated Miracle Day, and they all were invested in Jack/Ianto. If I'd watched the show, I probably would have been, too.

 

There was quite a lot of conflict between Jack and Gwen on Miracle Day, so it never occurred to me to think about them in those terms. Plus she was married with a child. I thought her husband's steady personality complemented her headstrong personality well. In her disagreements with Jack, she was probably right substantively but the way she dealt with that conflict bordered on the obnoxious. This may be an example of me disliking the kind of behavior that comes naturally to me when I see it on TV, though.

[tyro]

I've only seen Torchwood: Miracle Day. BBC America was running repeats. As far as I know, every Torchwood fan I know hated Miracle Day, and they all were invested in Jack/Ianto. If I'd watched the show, I probably would have been, too.

 

There was quite a lot of conflict between Jack and Gwen on Miracle Day, so it never occurred to me to think about them in those terms. Plus she was married with a child. I thought her husband's steady personality complemented her headstrong personality well. In her disagreements with Jack, she was probably right substantively but the way she dealt with that conflict bordered on the obnoxious. This may be an example of me disliking the kind of behavior that comes naturally to me when I see it on TV, though.

Miracle Day was an abomination. Watch Children of Earth.

T

[Guest]

I love Captain Jack. No disrespect to Ianto, but I always thought Jack should've been with Gwen.

T

 

You don't think they made a nice couple??

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http://cdn1.sciencefiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Ianto_Jones-Captain-Jack-Harkness-Torchwood.jpg

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http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19200000/Jack-and-Ianto-wallpaper-jack-and-ianto-19256811-1280-800.jpg

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[Guest]

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Miracle Day was an abomination. Watch Children of Earth.

T

 

 

I don't think I've ever seen an episode of Torchwood. But I felt the same about Matt Smith's farewell in The Time of the Doctor.

 

Gman

[Guest]

Bobby Rice, the man who played Ensign Peter Kirk:

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