Airline Launches Its New “Quiet Zone,” Banishing Kids To The Back Of The Plane

[jgoo]

Love kids, most of the time, but would have loved this idea when I was a frequent flyer.

 

 

http://consumerist.com/2013/02/04/airline-launches-its-new-quiet-zone-banishing-kids-to-the-back-of-the-plane/

[geoffk]

I always feel bad for the parents of crying kids, because sometimes you just can't get them to be comfortable/quiet. But what bothers me is when a somewhat older child is behind you and they kick the back of your seat the whole time. I know they are just kids but it is very annoying.

[Steven_Draker]

http://slodive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/thumbs-up-symbol-pictures/baby.jpg

[operalover21]

I always feel bad for the parents of crying kids, because sometimes you just can't get them to be comfortable/quiet. But what bothers me is when a somewhat older child is behind you and they kick the back of your seat the whole time. I know they are just kids but it is very annoying.

 

I NEVER feel sorry for the parents. I feel sorry for the passengers. The parents made the choice to bring those kids. And it's the parents fault when the kids kick the seat. They should be disciplined and the parents don't do it.

 

For me, I would probably not allow any kid under 12 years of age on a plane. Period. Call me Mr. Grinch.

[jgoo]

I NEVER feel sorry for the parents. I feel sorry for the passengers. The parents made the choice to bring those kids. And it's the parents fault when the kids kick the seat. They should be disciplined and the parents don't do it.

 

For me, I would probably not allow any kid under 12 years of age on a plane. Period. Call me Mr. Grinch.

 

Well maybe not Mr. Grinch but perhaps we should call you Mr. W.C. Fields II. Here are some quotes he supposedly has made about children:

 

1. Children should neither be seen nor heard from -- ever again.

2. I never met a kid I liked.

3. I like children. If they're properly cooked.

4. Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child -- if you parboil them first for seven hours, they always come out tender.

5. Anyone who hates children and animals can't be all bad.

[operalover21]

Well maybe not Mr. Grinch but perhaps we should call you Mr. W.C. Fields II. Here are some quotes he supposedly has made about children:

 

1. Children should neither be seen nor heard from -- ever again.

2. I never met a kid I liked.

3. I like children. If they're properly cooked.

4. Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child -- if you parboil them first for seven hours, they always come out tender.

5. Anyone who hates children and animals can't be all bad.

 

For me, it's not about disliking children (I have a couple of my own) but rather disliking their bad behavior. But I mostly can't stand irresponsible parents who believe, mistakenly, that kids should be allowed to do anything rather than be disciplined.

 

I've had the kick the back of your seat thing happen many times. Once, after glares didn't work, I turned and said to the clueless mother ... "would you please stop your child from kicking my seat." She looked and me and said to the kid ... "you have to stop that Johnny, the mean man doesn't like it." And we wonder why this generation is the biggest bunch of narcissists of all-time.

[Steven_Draker]

"you have to stop that Johnny, the mean man doesn't like it."

 

Did you bitch-slap her after she said that to you?

[KMEM]

Children should be seen but not heard apparently went by the way side some time ago. I have some sympathy for babies and parents of babies who are too young to know how to adjust the pressure in their ears. Chewing on something can help.

 

Older children who misbehave need to be banished to somewhere, perhaps out of the emergency exit? In most cases it is the poor rearing by the parents that causes misbehaving kids but not always, some are just incorrigible miscreants. Neglect the rear and you have poorly acting children.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Anton]

I mostly can't stand irresponsible parents who believe, mistakenly, that kids should be allowed to do anything rather than be disciplined.

 

In that case, imagine this:

 

There was this somewhat older man standing in line at the checkout of a supermarket. Behind him there was a mother with a child. The child was pushing the cart against the legs of the older man. The man asked the mother to tell the child to stop doing this. Apart from it being unpleasant he had a skin condition and it was hurting his legs.

 

The mother wasn't very helpful. In short, her response was, "I'm not going to discipline my child, because I'm giving my children a 'free' education. Basically they can do what they want". And that was it.

 

There was this younger guy standing in line behind the mother. He had noticed the situation, but he didn't say a word. He had a quart gallon of yogurt in his cart, he opened it, walked to the mother and pored the content over her. "I had a 'free' education as well" he said.

 

The mother was stunned, said nothing, took her child and left the supermarket.

[gallahadesquire]

in that case, imagine this:

 

There was this somewhat older man standing in line at the checkout of a supermarket. Behind him there was a mother with a child. The child was pushing the cart against the legs of the older man. The man asked the mother to tell the child to stop doing this. Apart from it being unpleasant he had a skin condition and it was hurting his legs.

 

The mother wasn't very helpful. In short, her response was, "i'm not going to discipline my child, because i'm giving my children a 'free' education. Basically they can do what they want". And that was it.

 

There was this younger guy standing in line behind the mother. He had noticed the situation, but he didn't say a word. He had a quart gallon of yogurt in his cart, he opened it, walked to the mother and pored the content over her. "i had a 'free' education as well" he said.

 

The mother was stunned, said nothing, took her child and left the supermarket.

 

roflmao! Fantastic!

[leigh.bess.toad]

Seems to go with the story they had on HuffPo today about the surprise parents of a well behaved child received when they got their tab from a restaurant.

 

http://i.imgur.com/uvJKaVa.jpg

 

Maybe something like that would help, huh?

[+ ArVaGuy]

I am of the opinion that if animals can ride in the cargo hold then the same for small children. They can be strapped into harnesses with a video monitor and a snack dispensing device for the duration of any flight. A trough below can be unitized for waste disposal needs. They are deplaned and picked up by their parents in baggage claim. Just like the dogs and cats.

 

I'm only half joking here.

[operalover21]

I am of the opinion that if animals can ride in the cargo hold then the same for small children. They can be strapped into harnesses with a video monitor and a snack dispensing device for the duration of any flight. A trough below can be unitized for waste disposal needs. They are deplaned and picked up by their parents in baggage claim. Just like the dogs and cats.

 

I'm only half joking here.

 

LOL. Why the snack dispensing device?

 

I guess I'm of a generation where kids were left at home while the parents traveled. I realize things have changed, but not for the better.

[operalover21]

Did you bitch-slap her after she said that to you?

 

In my mind, I'm sure I did. But assault goes a bit far, even for me

[operalover21]

In that case, imagine this:

 

There was this somewhat older man standing in line at the checkout of a supermarket. Behind him there was a mother with a child. The child was pushing the cart against the legs of the older man. The man asked the mother to tell the child to stop doing this. Apart from it being unpleasant he had a skin condition and it was hurting his legs.

 

The mother wasn't very helpful. In short, her response was, "I'm not going to discipline my child, because I'm giving my children a 'free' education. Basically they can do what they want". And that was it.

 

There was this younger guy standing in line behind the mother. He had noticed the situation, but he didn't say a word. He had a quart gallon of yogurt in his cart, he opened it, walked to the mother and pored the content over her. "I had a 'free' education as well" he said.

 

The mother was stunned, said nothing, took her child and left the supermarket.

 

I love it!

 

I have yet to come up with a single good reason -- of any kind -- why a baby ever needs to be on a plane. Ever.

[Guest boiworship08]

I love it!

 

I have yet to come up with a single good reason -- of any kind -- why a baby ever needs to be on a plane. Ever.

 

Maybe because they're visiting grandparents or family for the holidays?

[Frequentflier]

In that case, imagine this:

 

There was this somewhat older man standing in line at the checkout of a supermarket. Behind him there was a mother with a child. The child was pushing the cart against the legs of the older man. The man asked the mother to tell the child to stop doing this. Apart from it being unpleasant he had a skin condition and it was hurting his legs.

 

The mother wasn't very helpful. In short, her response was, "I'm not going to discipline my child, because I'm giving my children a 'free' education. Basically they can do what they want". And that was it.

 

There was this younger guy standing in line behind the mother. He had noticed the situation, but he didn't say a word. He had a quart gallon of yogurt in his cart, he opened it, walked to the mother and pored the content over her. "I had a 'free' education as well" he said.

 

The mother was stunned, said nothing, took her child and left the supermarket.

 

Outstanding !

[Frequentflier]

I'm only half joking here.

 

"half" ! I'll take dogs over kids on a plane every day (but there are some kids who are "angels" evidencing they have good passengers who respect others) I've noticed a lot more service dogs on United (lot meaning more flights with 1 on them). They get a lot of positive attention from the other passengers (who chat up the owner and always ask before even addressing the dog or trying to pet it). and I'm impressed with how well behaved they are. My dog is so social he'd want to spend time some quality time with every passenger.

[Guest verymarried]

Actually I've rarely been bothered by kids on planes. However, I have been bothered many times by overweight adults spilling out into my seat, obnoxious drunk adults making too much noise, stinky adults who haven't bathed, brushed teeth or moderated their perfume application, or worse, overly talkative adults who really think I'm interested in their political or religious views. I think if all of the above should be banned to the back of the plane, I can put up with a kid's occasional kick. After all I was actually one of those once

[BaronArtz]

Did you bitch-slap her after she said that to you?

 

I usually ask the parents politely to do something about their childen's behavior. If they react rudely, I say something like 'you are not in your trailer park here, you white trash bitch'. That usually baffles them. It works.

[operalover21]

Maybe because they're visiting grandparents or family for the holidays?

 

A said a single "good reason." That's not a good enough reason to take them on a plane. Drive. Or leave them at home. Or send them Fed Ex.

[operalover21]

I usually ask the parents politely to do something about their childen's behavior. If they react rudely, I say something like 'you are not in your trailer park here, you white trash bitch'. That usually baffles them. It works.

 

What do you say if they're not white?

 

I always ask the parents to discipline their kids. It's not my job -- or right -- to do it for them. They usually get huffy.

[Jaker27]

The worst offenders are the ones that got to take the babies with them. You know grandma wants to see her new grandson and their screaming all the effing way there. I've been in that situation. Argggg...Same assholes that think taking them out to the movies (because their fucking cheap asses won't pay for a sitter) is just a ok. I've been to movies where people have done that. I'm like WTF.

 

PS i was a good little tyke. My dad would've killed my ass if i was obnoxious to anyone in any way on a plane. Spare the rod,,spoil the child was his motto.

[KMEM]

A said a single "good reason." That's not a good enough reason to take them on a plane. Drive. Or leave them at home. Or send them Fed Ex.

 

You can send almost anything FEDEX but I think they draw the line at kids. However, I am sure at least one adult has tried to send himself as cargo on FEDEX, without success.

 

There is no reasonable fix for children and babies on airlines. Families wish to be together and travel together. Often, the parents are suffering more than the other passengers but sometimes it isn't obvious. However, spreading the misery is not a good alternative, especially for us adult gay folks. The only reasonable course of action is to try to arrange one's schedule to avoid "family times on the airlines" whateve that might mean.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Frequentflier]

A said a single "good reason." That's not a good enough reason to take them on a plane. Drive. Or leave them at home. Or send them Fed Ex.

 

Why are you mad at Fed Ex?