Jeff1970

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1) it’s not considered “cheap” not to tip a business owner who makes $150+ an hour which he shares with no one. Think about what you’re saying. There isn’t enough thinking in the lgbt community; 2) there is no expectation of a tip unless the massuer works for a salon. If there is, you’re not responsible for others’ expectstions; 3) massuers do the same things with everyone, give or take the level of hotness of the client. It’s not like the massuer will all of a sudden be a top next time because you tipped him, when he didn’t top you before; and 4) I don’t give a fuck what you think. I’d rather be cheap and smart then dumb and poor.

Their is neither an obligation not should there be any expectation unless dummies create one.

It is expected that men mate with women and act macho, do you do that too because it is expected?

Well if you want to exercise your free will to be stupid then I guess anything goes. But the original poster posed the question whether there is an obligation to tip. The answer is “no” if the massuer or escort isn’t working for a spa.

Then you’re stupid because in the case of massuers and escorts, it’s already their job to act like you’re hot (and I don’t discount the difficulty of their job in that respect).

Would you tip your lawyer? Or your doctor?

You’re crazy. You’re throwing your money away. Massuers are doing the same things with other guys for no additional charge, but you’re giving them an extra 20% just because you’re afraid of what others may think. Dumb.

This is correct. This tip happy society some people have established is ridiculous. What next? Tip doctors and internet millionaires?

That’s stupid.

So you’re stupid and like to throw money away is how you are?

You don’t have to tip self employed owners, which massuers and escorts are. They are already making $150 or more an hour, which they don’t have to share with a spa or salon. Tipping them is just stupid and you might as well throw your money in the trash.

Wrong. You only need to tip lower wage earnings and/or those that pay a significant chunk to someone else to work. You don’t have to tip masseurs. Massuers, especially gay borderline escorts, are getting paid a lot and don’t have to pay someone else. They are business owners. They make per hour akin to that of lawyers and doctors. It doesn’t matter that they aren’t giving 40 massages a week because that’s not the point of tipping. You never need to tip someone who is self-employed.

He’s average handsome. That rate is too much. I can get hotter and 90 minutes at a lower rate. I’m sick of all these average looking massuers charging exuberant rates.

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Don’t trust this guy. He flaked out on me. I’ve emailed him several times and then texted after making an appointment. He flaked and told me he couldn’t make it about an hour before the appointment. He didn’t reply when i asked about rescheduling. I’ve seen his ad on Scruff, where his actual age is 35, not 28 or 29 as in his a4a ad. I’m not an ageist and I actually prefer older, but this guy is a liar. My impression is that he only meets guys he is attracted to. Thus, he really just wants to hook up with guys he finds hot under the pretext of being a massuer, then collect $125 (his stated rate to me). If pushed, and he really needs the money, he probably would meet average guys, but you need to get him at the right time. With me, I think he set the appointment then found a hotter guy to meet and took longer than expected, thus canceled. I think this helps explain his low rate of $125 too. I’ve looked at his face pics closely on a4a and scruff, and I think he probably is very photogenic but doesn’t look as good in person. I cannot say for sure though because I haven’t actually met him. His scruff profile screen name is “Sweat” and the city is Los Angeles. I tried to post the profile and pics but couldn’t. Note: I do question everything, and I mean everything, he claims in his scruff profile, based on my past interactions with him, if you get my drift. So beware and play safe.

This guy is a psycho.

Yeah I’m interested too. HTH.

I revised re the “no HE” statement to avoid any confusion. Separately, hello MikeBiDud.

Really helpful the “I haven’t been to Jared” comment. What would we have done without that? Think, people. Anyway...he looks better in his pics/photos well. Very soft touch (and soft in other places throughout the massage, if you get my drift). Therapeutic. Offered handjob but that’s it. Wouldn’t return.

No it hasn't.

Because when I think of sexy I immediately think "Hungarian gypsy."

Creeper

Well this has been an utterly useless thread full of chatty queens who say nothing.

How do you know this if you never actually met him?