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    Jason901 reacted to + 7829V in Masseur best practices...   
    Do have some flexibility with regular customers, the same way we have it with you when it comes to scheduling and cancelling.
    I had a masseur that was seeing sometimes 2x per week for a few months. One day I scheduled an appointment and literally was so tired that fall asleep and did not wake up on time. He called me and I apologized, instead of saying no problem, he demanded the full session paid. I did via paypal. And I never hired him again.
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    Jason901 reacted to Damien Black in Masseur best practices...   
    Definitely can see that. No spas here do stomach, glutes or inner thighs either, so I’m with you and I charge approx what they do but with to your door (or incall) service that includes all the areas spas miss, so they can’t compete and the Disney Tourists who are planning on paying the crazy resort prices anyway, are happy to pay for room service massage that hits all the spots for less than what the resort spa would charge.
     
    I think I mentioned “for your area,” I know the price difference between BFE and NYC is pretty drastic, I’m in Orlando so I was using examples from my area, so your prices may vary drastically either way above or way below.
     
    Just suggesting a new masseur takes location into account and fairness for the area, $150 for strictly therapeutic in Disney Orlando is more than fair and less than most spas, you could probably do $200 if you wanted to, but I don’t want to be the guy who nickel and dimes people, so it’s a halfway point. $150 to local orlando is a little excessive and I’ve seen new masseurs as low as $65 (which is a red flag to me to be so low compared to the standard), so I do $100 an hour for outcall therapeutic outside of Disney to take locals and travelers not on a saved vacation budget into account, to this day though the resorts always glare at me walking my table through the hotel haha.
     
    I still see people come out of nowhere trying $250+ for an hour therapeutic, then they disappear a month or so in and I’m sure they wonder why, it’s not a get rich quick scheme but building relationships with clients over time, lots of communication, marketing, keeping your client base happy while always taking new ones. I feel like some new people see the rates and think they will be making 6 figures in a week and don’t realize that for every hour actually spent working there are probably 4 or more hours communicating, marketing, advertising, and scheduling for future appointments, so your 10 hour workday varies, dead days you get 1 paid hour out of it, busier days (Wednesday oddly enough blows up here aside from the obvious Friday and weekends) you might get paid for 8 hours and then adding travel and such it’s a loooong 12 hour day.
     
    That’s another good one for new masseurs:
     
    Be realistic with your expectations, some weeks you will be completely booked out to the point you skip meals and stay up late to fit everyone in, some weeks you will only have your regulars, and it takes time to build those regulars, so don’t expect overnight success, you need a wide skill set outside of the massage itself to make it work. In the beginning you might have half a week between appointments once the “fresh meat” phase wears off unless you have built up to having those regulars.
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    Jason901 reacted to Kinected in Masseur best practices...   
    Oh Another one...
     
    If you have a roommate and are taking incalls, let your customer know went they book. Hearing other unexpected people in the place is odd. I hired one guy and went to his place. Walked in to the front door. Bam. Massage table in the living room. But he lead me to his room. So I figured it was for practice or perhaps extra. Get to his room and on the table there and later during my massage, I hear another person going up and down the stairs.
     
    Well after my massage was done, a black curtain was pulled from the living room area so you couldn't see from the stairway and I was led out the backdoor through the kitchen. WKOSIT?
     
    I concluded that his roommate was also a masseur. That's fine and dandy. But at least let me know. I am sure the roommate's client found it odd hearing us as we were going down the stairs too as I was having some small talk about asking for water, and as I mentioned, the table was right in the living room. Just not a good look if you are not telling your clients before hand that you are in a shared space. A tleast let me have the option to decide if I'll go with the booking or not or letting me know if the roommate will be there or not or possibly arrive during the session.
     
    Another time, I hired a new guy and the appointment was at the same apartment of another guy I hired a few months back. I didn't see the other masseur but, yeah. That was kinda awkward.
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    Jason901 reacted to + EVdude in Masseur best practices...   
    A few months back I went to a session with a masseur that was renting space for a day. I was impressed that upfront he asked if it would be okay for him to check his phone midway through the 90 minute session so that he could maximize his use of time for the day. I said no problem and at a very natural point he asked if I would like some water or needed anything. He took maybe 90 seconds to go through texts. Very respectful and professional.
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    Jason901 reacted to Damien Black in Masseur best practices...   
    Everyone here has really nailed it from both the client and the masseur side. I wish I knew about this forum when I first started, would have saved me a lot of meh experiences.
     
    As a masseur/scort my advice would be(sorry for repeats, I feel they are important enough to read again):
     
    -DO go with your gut, if you get a bad feeling through a call, imagine the feeling you’ll get when you knock on the door, instinct is usually right and although it only happened once, I had to leave a service halfway into it, and that’s me, and I’m an “anything goes” fetish friendly experience, so imagine the amount of creep it takes to make me walk out the door.
     
    -DO get a professional scheduling app(online scheduling if you can) to keep track of appointments, even better if clients can see your schedule and book their own appointments.
     
    -DO be open minded. Even if you want to be 100% legit and therapeutic, clients make requests constantly, always consider them and their comfort, I have done strictly therapeutic massages nude because I have clients that are more comfortable not being the only one naked in the room. There is nothing wrong or illegal about 2 adults being nude in a room together, you can relax some and still be a legit professional.
     
    -DO NOT take appointments that you can’t keep. When you start out you are fresh meat and you’ll get a sudden influx of appointments, don’t let it go to your head, you are being tested, do well and word will spread.
     
    -DO NOT use your phone during appointments! I have an iPhone and I turn on driving mode and set up an auto reply that states I’m in an appt and will get back immediately after, that way people know I’m busy, not ignoring them, and clients don’t have a therapist hovering over his phone.
     
    -BIOTONE period. Coconut oil is a good 2nd Incase they prefer oil.
     
    Lastly, be fair, charge the standard rate in your area FOR THE SERVICES OFFERED, don’t charge $150 an hour for a therapeutic, at the same time don’t lowball yourself, don’t charge $50 an hour for erotic(or people will think you are either terrible at it or desperate). Price takes practice and fine tuning, you’ll find what is both fair to clients and gets you enough appointments to pay your bills.
     
    It’s all about the regulars. They are loyal, they deserve more, go with a regular over a new guy if you have to pick one, and I ALWAYS give my regulars free upgrades. Over deliver consistently.
     
    Sorry it’s so long, TLDR Don’t get cocky, treat your regulars with the respect they deserve, be creative and be ready for some situations you didn’t prepare for.
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    Jason901 reacted to + 7829V in Masseur best practices...   
    Do join this forum, and disclose who you are. Never use it to praise yourself pretending you are someone else. We can always tell. Never engage with trolls. And be professional and corteus in your comments.
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    Jason901 reacted to MisterMike in Riley in LA   
    *BUMP*
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    Jason901 reacted to + 7829V in Masseur best practices...   
    Create a unique 'masseur name', be original. So we can google or search this forum and find your info. Don't go by 'B' or 'Jon'.
     
    And don't keep changing names every week. This is a major red flag for us. If you are good at what you do and treat customers with respect, no need to keep changing names to avoid others finding bad comments/review. We WILL find them anyway and you'll look even worse.
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    Jason901 reacted to + 7829V in Masseur best practices...   
    Create a unique 'masseur name', be original. So we can google or search this forum and find your info. Don't go by 'B' or 'Jon'.
     
    And don't keep changing names every week. This is a major red flag for us. If you are good at what you do and treat customers with respect, no need to keep changing names to avoid others finding bad comments/review. We WILL find them anyway and you'll look even worse.
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    Jason901 reacted to KCRob in Masseur best practices...   
    I wish more masseurs did this. The few times I’ve received a follow up thank you text, it made me very happy and made me look forward to our next encounter.
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    Jason901 reacted to KCRob in Masseur best practices...   
    I wish more masseurs did this. The few times I’ve received a follow up thank you text, it made me very happy and made me look forward to our next encounter.
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    Jason901 reacted to Hey_Jay in Masseur best practices...   
    Tons of great tips here...
     
    Some masseurs doesn’t know this. As a client your face is down and you have no idea what’s going on inside the room. (Even if you know it’s just the two of you) So try to minimize or if possible have at least one hand always in contact with your client throughout the duration of the massage. It gives a client a sense of security during the massage session.
     
    Hope this helps...
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    Jason901 reacted to gopochi in 411 Layne in LA   
    I've been to Layne several times, and cannot say enough good about his massage. It is completely non-sexual as the above reviews state, but Layne has a very unique style that is incredible. Layne is also very good looking, which is nice, but remains clothed. If an excellent massage is what your after, and something a bit different and thorough, go to Layne for sure.
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    Jason901 reacted to Vato Loco in 411 Layne in LA   
    To give you the Cliff Notes version here:
     
    - legitimate, he remains clothed
    - clients 'can be naked'
    - no HE. "You can go relieve yourself in the bathroom as I clean-up"
    - he can flake
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    Jason901 reacted to massagelover in 411 Layne in LA   
    Had a session last night. Incredibly cute All-American type straight boy who gives a fantastic massage. He has his own non-mechanical, flowing style that while completely legit is also very sensual (Not sexual) in the real sense. He incorporates some amazing leg stretches as well, which I love. He's also an extremely nice guy who isn't uptight at all working on other men, even though he's straight, and clearly loves what he does and puts great effort and heart into it. I recommend him highly if getting a great massage is your goal. If you are looking for anything else, it's not going to happen with him, and you'll just be wasting your time or his if you try. He was extremely busy on his current NY trip - my only regret was that he had another appointment after mine, so he couldnt do more than an hour, otherwise I would have done two hours. The hour with him flew by. LA guys - try him but treat him with respect and decency and you'll get back a really wonderful massage.
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    Jason901 reacted to RacerXLA in Championhands - Los Angeles - Any experience   
    bump
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    Jason901 reacted to LA Guy in Championhands - Los Angeles - Any experience   
    Wow. He pushes all my buttons. Anyone have experience with him?
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    Jason901 reacted to LA Guy in Championhands - Los Angeles - Any experience   
    Wow. He pushes all my buttons. Anyone have experience with him?
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    Jason901 reacted to FrequentMassageGetter in Adam - LA aka AdamMagicHands   
    Anyone book him?
    https://rentmasseur.com/AdamMagicHands
     
    Look at that cock on him!!!! Wow
    https://mymassagereviews.blogspot.com/2017/08/adam-aka-adammagichands-323-246-9188.html?zx=19ef6846553447ea&view=mosaic
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    Jason901 reacted to MmM in 411 o Adammagichands   
    Had a great tume with him, albeit a bit rushed. No regrets though!
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    Jason901 reacted to MmM in 411 o Adammagichands   
    Meeting him in a few hours. Wish me luck!
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    Jason901 reacted to + 7829V in Masseur best practices...   
    Always express gratitude for tips.
    Can be a quick text right after the session.
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    Jason901 reacted to Torzan in Masseur best practices...   
    I recently had a massage where the masseur pulled up a you tube video to use as music. That would have been fine (the video was appropriate spa music) but the loud ad before the video killed the mood. I’ve also had masseurs play free pandora or Spotify stations that had ads in the middle.
     
    A masseur needs to have proper music on his phone. Note I didn’t say streaming. This way there is no fumbling for WiFi or other issues. The music should be played through at least a portable speaker. If using the phone, make sure it is in airplane mode or at least have notifications silenced. I don’t want to hear a continual parade of beeps, chirps and dings as the masseur gets various messages.
     
    For the love of god, don’t answer or text while in session (I’ve had multiple masseurs do this, never went back to any of them)
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    Jason901 reacted to Cruiser7 in Masseur best practices...   
    This thread, indeed, has some fantastic tips.
     
    For right now, I’ll add:
     
    Have realistic expectations of your client’s appearance. While you may get lucky and get an appt. with a hot gym body, most of the time, that’s not going to happen. Be prepared to deal with heavy, older, partially physically disabled men, etc. and treat them all equally, even if you’re faking it. As long as you’re good at doing that, you'll get repeats. And if you decide HE is appropriate, at least pretend to be into it. I hate when you look up and the masseur is looking away and/or looking bored.
     
    Get a portable table. Personally, I will not hire a masseur who doesn’t have one. Whether it’s true or not, I always think to myself if he were legit, he’d have a table. Plus, I’ve had several on beds and despise it. I can’t get comfortable, and I can’t see how the masseur can be comfortable. Plus it takes away one of the thrills of a massage for me, which is when they get close to my hand (if you know what I mean). Beds are awkward for that.
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    Jason901 reacted to + 7829V in Masseur best practices...   
    Maybe this perk can be reserved for repeat and nice customers.
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