could very well be like most guys..Mutual respect goes a long way with these guys and over time if it evolves to more it does. I have had encounters with guys after seeing them for months on in from full legit massage with draping to no draping, to me massaging them, to me playing with their hole, to me eating their holes etc its all good but you need to invest the time into it which a lot of guys wont. Also if you start showering at their place after they may very well join you..these guys get hit on all the time. one guy that it progressed further with I kinda wish it didnt as I want a massage not a quick he plugs me with a dildo I plug him I eat his ass out he comes then I cum on his face.. and out the door in under 30 min.