Finally bit the bullet on Patrice and wish I didn't. The absolute worst massage. YMMV is an understatement. I've had a few bad massages in my life and this is only the second time I felt like not paying or paying a reduce price for the services rendered. Disgusted with the experience
I have a layover in SF and thinking of seeing Karl. I'm still undecided or should i save money and go to his spa the train at in Taiwan while i am there