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As the Wicked Witch of the West, said, "All in good time, my pretty, all in good time!"


The mood of the public seems to have shifted, finally, and Americans no longer seem willing to suspend their sense of disbelief when it comes to this administration. Zarqawi's death is welcome news, but as so many others have pointed out, it's not going to stop the carnage in Iraq, it's not going to stop the corruption investigations at home, it's not going to make the ballooning deficits go away, it's not going to fix the immigration "problem," it's not going to repair the Gulf Coast and protect anyone from the next killer hurricane, it's not going to make gas cheaper, it's not going to make health care accessible, etc., etc., etc. Bush will undoubtedly get a bump up in the polls from this bit of good news, but it'll only last until the next screw-up, or the next shoe falls. And this administration has more shoes to fall than a centipede!

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First he was dead. Next day, he was alive but only lasted briefly. Today, the AP headline gives it that extra umph to stretch just a little more drama and squeeze another day out of the dead Zarqawi story: A dying al-Zarqawi tried to get away. (Of course the classic grisly photo is included in the story.) Sounds a lot more exciting and dramatic then "he tried rolling off of the stretcher before dying" which is what the story actually tells us. Fortunately there are enough voices out there in the media who are balancing out what sounds like Pentagon-sponsored hype with the reality that while he was a destructive man, he was a small piece of a big problem.

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>Today, the AP headline gives it that extra umph to

>stretch just a little more drama and squeeze another day out

>of the dead Zarqawi story. Fortunately there are enough voices

>out there in the media who are balancing out what sounds like

>Pentagon-sponsored hype


What parallel universe do you live in where the fucking AP is a mouthpiece for the PENTAGON???


All the Pentagon said was that he was still alive when we got there and he appeared to recognize the troops and that when he was on the stretcher he almost rolled off. It was the media, not the Pentagon, that tried to hype the story that a mortally injured savage tried to "get away".


Clarifyingly yours,



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FairlawnFairyFooter - Premature Ejaculation...


Every time the Bush administration declares we have reached a "turning point'' in Iraq, things have turned, all right, but always for the worst. Mission Accomplished. The capture of Saddam Hussein. Turning over sovereignty. The constitutional referendum. Elections.


Now, as they -- and you -- trumpet another "turning point,'' the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, I am reminded of the Greek myth of the Hydra. Every time Hercules cut off one of its heads, another two grew back. But Hercules was a wise and virtuous man and, so, was able to figure out how to defeat the Hydra.


Unfortunately, our president is neither wise nor virtuous, and I fear his ignorance and arrogance are creating new monster heads far faster than he can cut them off. I advise you to hold off on the premature celebrations.

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> Every time the Bush administration declares we have reached

>a "turning point'' in Iraq.....



Since you cite the administration saying that several times, could you please supply a single quote attributed to the White House where they said that?


I'm waiting.


Patiently yours,



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RE: 'Turning Point'




Bush Says U.S. Is Set to Shift Burden After 'Turning Point'


President Gives No Specifics on Drawdown


By Peter Baker and Bradley Graham

Washington Post Staff Writers

Tuesday, May 23, 2006; A12


CHICAGO, May 22 -- President Bush on Monday hailed the formation of a new Iraqi government as a "turning point" that will allow U.S. forces to take an "increasingly supporting role" against insurgents as Washington and London look for ways to disengage from the war.





Bush has declared turning points and milestones in the war before. He called it "an important milestone" when a temporary governing council was formed in July 2003 and "a turning point" when sovereignty was turned over to the interim government in June 2004. Elections in January 2005, he said, were both "a turning point in the history of Iraq" and "a milestone in the advance of freedom."


He called it a "milestone" in October when Iraqi voters approved a constitution and "a major milestone" two months later when they elected a parliament -- a moment he also termed "a turning point in the history of Iraq, the history of the Middle East and the history of freedom." The selection of a prime minister last month was "an important milestone toward our victory in Iraq" and, a week later, "a turning point for the Iraqi citizens." ...





The Final Milestone in Iraq?


Viewpoint: The President has hailed the new Iraqi government as a turning point. But what happens when you run out of turning points?


By BRIAN BENNETT/WASHINGTON http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1197606,00.html

Posted Wednesday, May. 24, 2006


President Bush, speaking in a packed Chicago convention center on Monday, called the formation of a new government in Iraq "a turning point in the struggle between freedom and terror." The words had a familiar ring. Since 2003, the Bush Administration has described event after event in Iraq as milestones, turning points, moments that would dial back the chaos and bloodshed that has consumed the country. There was the capture of Saddam in December 2003; the handover of sovereignty to the Iraqis in June 2004; the writing of the Constitution in September; the successful referendum on the Constitution in October; and December's parliamentary elections.


None of those milestones really delivered on the promises that preceded them. But there was always another event on the horizon to look ahead to. Until now. There are no more upcoming elections, or ceremonies, or looming deadlines — just the messy task of building up the country's nascent government and anemic security forces. And that's an effort that has no neatly painted goal lines.


Gone is the ability to fall back on the familiar, sunny formulations like the one offered earlier this month by Major General Rick Lynch, spokesman for the coalition forces in Baghdad: "When a government is formed and truly reaches out to the people, we believe you'll see a great decline in violent activities in Iraq." Obviously, that hasn't happened yet. Even Bush himself seems to concede that the milestones he once lauded were mere chimera. "Terrorists did not lay down their arms after three elections in Iraq, and they will continue to fight this new government," Bush noted on Monday, without acknowledging that each of those moments had been previously hailed by the Administration as a turning point.


An MBA President who prides himself on setting clear goals for his staff has missed a basic point about metrics and war. The only real measure of defeating the insurgency is a reduction in their attacks and numbers — not ancillary questions like how many Iraqi units are fit to fight without U.S. assistance. A functioning Parliament could provide a release valve for rising sectarian tensions, but the fact is both disaffected Sunnis and Shi'ites are still using the threat of violence to gain political leverage. It is wrong to assume that each new step toward democracy, however laudable, will persuade jihadists to lay down their arms; those who disdain Western-style democracy aren't likely to be persuaded by its implementation.


Other Presidents have made similar miscalculations. Presidents Kennedy and Johnson both pointed to democratization in South Vietnam as a hopeful sign that the North might be sapped of its support. Perhaps now that the last milestone has been reached, the Bush Administration can get back to reality.










Iraq Has Not Reached A Turning Point

May 25th, 2006

By, Rep. Maxine Waters - PDA Board Member


This weekend’s announcement of a new, permanent Iraqi government should not be greeted with the fanfare given to it by the President.


On May 20th, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki was inaugurated. In addition, Maliki announced his nominations to lead the various ministries which would help him govern Iraq, which the Iraqi Parliament accepted. However, Prime Minister Maliki did not name anyone for the ministry of Interior or Defense which are considered to be two of the most powerful posts in the Cabinet.


Not surprisingly, President Bush declared that the announcement was great news. Since the beginning of the war, he has been searching vainly for something that would reverse the violence in Iraq and permit US soldiers to return home. The seating of a permanent government will not achieve those goals.


On Sunday, President Bush said, “the formation of the unity government in Iraq begins a new chapter in our relationship with Iraq.” He made similar remarks on Monday.


If the President announcing a fresh start in Iraq sounds familiar, it should. At least five times since the beginning of the Iraq war, President Bush has declared that Iraq has reached a positive turning point. He even said it on the one-year anniversary of the Iraq war. On March 19, 2004, the President said, “…as Iraqis join the free peoples of that world, we mark a turning point for the Middle East and a crucial advance for human liberty.”


We heard similar comments from Vice-President Cheney on several occasions.


Time and again, these supposed turning points have fallen flat. After each ‘milestone’ was achieved, violence in Iraq grew progressively worse and more US soldiers have died or have been injured.


Despite the Administration’s consistent public expressions of approval as to certain events that have occurred in the Iraq war, the facts on the ground speak differently: over the weekend, while the Prime Minister was announcing his Cabinet, more than 40 Iraqis were killed and 74 were wounded in attacks across Iraq; over the past three years, the war has caused significant death and destruction in Iraq. Throughout the country, there have been more than 700 bombings which claimed at least 6,281 Iraqi lives including 70 car bombings in April 2006 alone; according to conservative estimates, 30,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed since the war began in March 2003 and as many as 40,000 additional Iraqis have been killed by crime as a result of lawlessness in Iraq.


It appears that ordinary Iraqis do not have much faith in the new government. An LA Times article reports that disappointment with the new government crosses religious lines — it quotes a Sunni Muslim saying, “I don’t have much faith that this new government will achieve democracy and security” and a Shiite saying, “I don’t trust the new government. I don’t expect anything from them.”


Further, the article reported, “many Iraqis said they were worried that the new government, with its ministries distributed among sectarian parties, would only reinforce animosities between the factions, infusing this fragile society with even deeper tensions.”


March 19, 2006 marked the third anniversary of the Iraq war. As of May 22nd, 2,457 US soldiers have died and 18,088 have been injured — 2,318 of these deaths have occurred since May 1, 2003 when the President declared “mission accomplished” while standing on a US aircraft carrier. The war has cost US taxpayers more than $260 billion so far — almost $11 million per hour! We have endured these costs despite not finding any weapons of mass destruction or any links to Al Qaeda - contrary to the confident reassurances given by the President and his Administration.


This war has limited our ability to meet our commitments here at home and has diminished our reputation throughout the world. We must conclude our involvement in Iraq and refocus our efforts on strengthening our homeland through investment in our schools, provision of healthcare for the 45 million Americans without it, and creation of good paying jobs here at home.


It is time to bring our soldiers home.

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Oh Miss Caldwell, another turning point:


Gunmen are roaming a western Baghdad neighborhood Sunday and shooting unarmed Iraqis as soon as they have identified them as Sunnis, killing at least 40, Iraqi emergency police told CNN.


The gunmen are driving around the neighborhood of Hay al Jihad in several vehicles, checking Iraqis for their identification cards and shooting those who are Sunni, police said.


(What happened to our 75,000 troops and 'crackdown' in Baghdad?)

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