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Bush has definitely pulled ahead since the last debate. Apparently he won where it counts. Zogby tracking poll has: Bush 48, Kerry 44, Nadar 1. Bush is ahead in all the national polls except Gallup where he is tied. And ahead in the Electoral Vote, 264 to 236. See realclearpolitics.com. Kerry will undoubtedly pull something really nasty now. Wonder what it will be.

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RE: Merlin's Myopia

 

You? Right? You've never been right about anything. And as if to emphasize your inability to get anything right, you are supporting a candidate for president who has nothing but contempt for you and the way you live and who, if asked, would say that someone who behaves as you do should be in jail.

 

Frankly, you remind me of the Jews in 1930s Germany who didn't worry about Hitler's accession to power because they assumed that his more extreme statements were just "red meat" that he was tossing to the ignorant masses and that once in power he would behave just like any other status quo politician. Hard to believe that anyone could be so gullible. But whenever I have a hard time believing it, all I have to do is read your posts.

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RE: Merlin's Myopia

 

Besides, who cares about the results of this one poll? In a tight race like this one, you can always find a poll somewhere that shows one candidate or another ahead. The polls have been all over the map this season about who is ahead at any one time. What's more relevant is that ALL the polls show the race to be extremely tight, but that Kerry has made steady progress in narrowing the gap between him and Bush. That means that voters (especially undecided ones) are paying attention and taking Kerry seriously as a candidate, in spite of the Bush campaign's vicious efforts to discredit him. Nationwide polls also aren't as indicative in a presidential race as state-by-state polls, since that's how presidential elections are decided in the country, on a state-by-state basis. A recent Zogby state-by-state poll of swing states shows Kerry narrowly ahead in all but three of them, a significant advance compared to his standings earlier in the season. We'll have to whether the last two debates added to his momentum in the swing states, but at least as of Oct. 6 Kerry had closed the gap in that poll.

 

The poll that counts, though, is the one on November 2nd. What are you going to do, Merlin, when your demigod comes up short? Immolate yourself in front of the RNC headquarters? Can I get a ticket?

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RE: Merlin's Myopia

 

Politics again, more insults. Not a single statement without a venomous response. What a sad state of affairs. We should be ashamed of ourselves. And this place is somewhat tame compared to another Forum I read.

 

I realise this is a very divided election and tempers are flaring. Gay people do have one thing in common. But there are other factors involved in our daily lives and it is not just sex. Think about it and instead of throwing insults, how about asking why your opinion is different and what brought you to that conclusion. Of course that would not be very exciting and it is not every day you can spit on someone's "grave" as most of us do here since most of us are anonymous...

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Lies, Damn Lies, And Polls

 

Of more interest and comfort, for those who support the idea of Mr. Bush actually winning an election for president (rather than having it decided judicially in his favor), is that polling among the undecided shows that he is finally able to show a larger number of people who agree with the statement that he should continue to be president. Historically, the undecided vote has tended to break for the underdog in close elections.

 

In addition, nearly every single poll, including most commissioned by the Republican Party and the White House, has consistently shown the majority of those polled would prefer a change in the direction of the country. Given this fact, that Bush can actually maintain a close race at this stage of the election must certain help keep some of you warm and cozy at night.

 

Finally, all of us need to keep in mind that all of these polls use a variety of different methods to determine this results. This fact has even become the story itself in some of the reporting. For example and, as many of you must surely have experienced personally, a number of people throughout the country, in rural and urban areas alike, have given up landlines and gone to cell phones. At present, no poll contacts these voters (or non-voters as the case may be), in part because there is no directory of numbers but also because any such call would create a potential expense, either real or in the cost of minute calling time, to the recipient, a violation of various state and federal regulations. Additionally, some polls seek only "likely" voters; other seek registered voters. Both parties have aggressively engaged in get out the vote drives and everyone is presently predicting an increase in total voters. Given that Mr. Gore and Mr. Bush won several of the "battleground" states by very close margins of a few thousand votes (and less than one half of one percent difference between the candidates), no one, no pollster, none of here on the Message Center, not even Karl Rove, has any real idea what is going to happen.

 

Chill, people.

 

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RE: Lies, Damn Lies, And Polls

 

The Washington Post? Has there ever been a more Democratic Party biased, leftist liberal point of view, major, internationally renowned newspaper posing as a balanced reporter of the news?

 

Thanks for your post. It brought back very fond memories of my late father, who got so pissed at the biased coverage of the Watergate scandal by the W. Post, that he cancelled his 30 year subscription! :D

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>If you ever get your tounge out of Michael Moore's scruffy,

>hairy, and pimpled ass, you will see that I am right.

 

Hey Merlin: That's a really intelligent answer, NOT.

 

Who ever told you tit for tat would win an argument - lied.

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>>If you ever get your tounge out of Michael Moore's scruffy,

>>hairy, and pimpled ass, you will see that I am right.

>

>Hey Merlin: That's a really intelligent answer, NOT.

 

It was just as intelligent as trilingual's answer, and at least, imho, 10 times funnier.

>

>Who ever told you tit for tat would win an argument - lied.

 

STFU??? No one is giving your useless, fascist, anti-American bs opinions any credence, whatsoever!

 

Now, if you could find another fascist Canadian with voting rights in the U.S.A, who'll swap votes with you, then you just might be in business? :-(

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RE: Lies, Damn Lies, And Polls

 

>The Washington Post? Has there ever been a more Democratic

>Party biased, leftist liberal point of view, major,

>internationally renowned newspaper posing as a balanced

>reporter of the news?

 

Answer: The New York Times? :+

 

 

It would also not be a bad idea to take a deep breath and not to get TOO excited about one or a few polls. Lots of drama ahead I'm sure.

 

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RE: Lies, Damn Lies, And Polls

 

>But remember Zogby has been consistently better for Kerry

>than Bush.

 

However, it would be good to remember, that since 1996, the Zogby polls have been the most consistently accurate. Zogby called the 1996 election to the exact results within .1 %; and he was one of the few polls who showed the 2000 race to be even. Almost all other polls in 2000 had Bush winning by 3-5% the week before the election, when in fact Gore WON the popular vote.

 

There is a great deal of confusion about polling and sampling this year, and we will find out in a couple of weeks which pollsters really have a pulse on what the voters are thinking.

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RE: Lies, Damn Lies, And Polls

 

>The Washington Post? Has there ever been a more Democratic

>Party biased, leftist liberal point of view, major,

>internationally renowned newspaper posing as a balanced

>reporter of the news?

 

And who is lining Zogby's pocket? The right-wing Wall Street Journal. The Washington Post poll is also conducted for ABC News. Last time I checked, the fatcats at Disney, which owns ABC, were not driving around with Kerry stickers on their bumpers.

 

>Thanks for your post. It brought back very fond memories of

>my late father, who got so pissed at the biased coverage of

>the Watergate scandal by the W. Post, that he cancelled his 30

>year subscription!

 

Yes, that coverage was so biased that Barry Goldwater had to tell Nixon it was time to resign, and Nixon had to listen to him. But at least we have some insight into the psychology of your political roots. You are still dealing with paternal issues.

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RE: Speaking of Lies

 

Bush has now pulled SEVERAL POINTS ahead in ALL THE NATIONAL POLLS, and is ahead in the Electoral count, 264 to 236. http://www.realclearpolitics.com Obviously he did not actually win the third debate, and/or people could see that his comment about Mary Cheney, intended by him to be mean and malicious, reveals the real Kerry behind the botox mask.

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Flip a coin

 

Monday October 18, 2004--With just 15 days to go, the race for the White House is tied once again. The latest Rasmussen Reports Presidential Tracking Poll shows President George W. Bush and Senator John Kerry each attracting 47% of the vote.

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Well Merlin, your authoritative poll, Reuters/Zogby, shows Kerry trending upward and Bush going South as of today:

 

< Democratic Sen. John Kerry pulled into a statistical dead heat with President Bush in a seesawing battle for the White House, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released Monday.

 

The latest three-day tracking poll showed Kerry and Bush deadlocked at 45 percent apiece barely two weeks before the Nov. 2 election. The president had a 46-44 percent lead over the Massachusetts senator the previous day, and a four-point lead the day before that. :+

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