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I'm curious to hear what the folks here think of MTV's decision to drop Beenie Man from the concert roster of the MTV Music Awards because of anti-gay lyrics in his songs.

 

If you read the news article posted below, you'll see just how vile those lyrics are. The anti-gay atmosphere in Jamaica is well-documented at this website, as well as elsewhere, so it's reasonable to assume that such lyrics only seek to reinforce hatred, bigotry and violence toward gays.

 

That said, if my memory serves me correctly, MTV hasn't banned appearances by performers like Eminem who have also expressed homophobic sentiments in their music. I have no problem with MTV revoking the invitation to Beenie Man, but I have to wonder if there isn't a double standard at work here.

 

Your thoughts?

 

 

 

 

MTV Bars Beenie Man As Gays Plan Protest

By JOHN PAIN

 

MIAMI (AP) - Dancehall star Beenie Man, who has recorded anti-gay songs in the past, was yanked from a concert associated with the MTV Video Music Awards this weekend after gay groups planned a protest, the network said Wednesday.

 

MTV pulled the Jamaican singer from the roster Tuesday after South Florida gay activists announced plans to protest Saturday's concert in Miami over some of his past lyrics, including ``I'm dreaming of a new Jamaica, come to execute all the gays'' and ``Queers must be killed.''

 

``We don't want anything to overshadow what will be a great weekend of music events for South Floridians,'' MTV spokeswoman Marnie Black said Wednesday. She declined further comment.

 

The awards show is Sunday at the bayfront AmericanAirlines Arena in Miami, the first time in the glam-filled event's 21-year history that it will take place outside New York and Los Angeles.

 

 

Beenie Man has had his concerts canceled in Europe over the last few weeks after angry gay groups protested. Although he has previously defended his lyrics, earlier this month, Beenie Man issued an apology for his previous songs, including ``Bad Man Chi Chi Man (Bad Man, Queer Man).

 

 

 

 

``Certain lyrics and recordings I have made in the past may have caused distress and outrage among people whose identities and lifestyles are different from my own. ... I offer my sincerest apologies to those who might have been offended, threatened or hurt by my songs.''

 

 

Other stars of dancehall, a sensuous, more contemporary form of reggae, have also recorded anti-gay songs and have been targeted by gay groups because of their lyrics, including Buju Banton.

 

 

Beenie Man's manager, Clyde McKenzie, said ``in many instances the lyrics of dancehall artists are metaphorical.''

 

 

``He has made it clear that he doesn't want to incite violence,'' he said of Beenie Man.

 

 

He said he understood MTV's actions.

 

 

``If their organization is being pressured they may not want anything to be distracting from their event,'' he said.

 

 

Heddy Pena, executive director of the Miami-based gay-rights group SAVE Dade, said: ``We respectfully suggest that he use other metaphors.'' Her group had been organizing the protest.

 

 

``It's disappointing to see artists use their talents as a tool for hatred and bigotry,'' she said.

 

 

Beenie Man told The Miami Herald on Sunday that ``I just smile, because I don't know what they're fussing about.''

 

 

``I'm not here to cuss people. I make music. But at the same time I just want to teach people - my sons and my daughters - the right way of life,'' he said. Beenie Man was not available for comment Wednesday, his publicist said.

 

 

Beenie Man, born Anthony Moses Davis, is on a world tour promoting his new album, ``Back to Basics.'' His songs include his recent hit, ``Dude,'' ``Girls Dem Sugar'' and ``Who Am I?'' His album ``Art and Life'' won the Grammy Award for Best Reggae Album in 2001.

 

 

He ends his tour in Miami on Nov. 8.

 

 

 

08/25/04 23:03

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MTV has been a pioneer in bringing gay people to the televission medium. I applaud their efforts to help make gays and Les. more acceptable.

 

However, there is another issue that concerns me here. That is the right to free speech. As much as I hate to see anyone use bias language in any forum, it is a constitutional right to do so.

 

As a major network for music, I think it is dangerous to prevent someone from using his/her right to express themselves.

 

The fact that MTV hasn't banned other people who have used this kind of language also bothers me. There are rockers who have used anti-gay rhetoric and received unflinching support from MTV in the past.

 

It is very suspect that they would single out one Artist who has crossed the "PC" line and not others.

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Dear SouthBeach,

I do agree with you in principle. However, There is a line that has been crossed. Yes, Beenie Man is from another country, another culture. Jamaica is a place where respect for gay people has yet to take hold.

But the MTV awards are held here, in the USA. Thus, if Beenie Man wants to perform in a USA based international broadcast, it is not extreme to ask that he check himself. Racist white american groups would never get the chance for such exposure, so why should homophobic Jamaican dancehall artists get the opportunity?

Freedom of speech is fine, but I for one applaud private institutions (and MTV is a private institution) who take a stand on hate speech, and refuse to air it. Even if the hate is still "ok" in parts of the world.

 

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"Thus, if Beenie Man wants to perform in a USA based international broadcast, it is not extreme to ask that he check himself. Racist white american groups would never get the chance for such exposure, so why should homophobic Jamaican dancehall artists get the opportunity?"

 

Unlike Eminem with his "white KKK rants against faggots"? Unlike the black hip hop artists with their lyrics advocating violent death to white cops? Or God forbid their lyrics about women being ##### bitches?

 

"Freedom of speech is fine, but I for one applaud private institutions (and MTV is a private institution) who take a stand on hate speech, and refuse to air it. Even if the hate is still "ok" in parts of the world."

 

Sorry, but censorship of speech, regardless of how ugly and offensive it is to certain segments of American society is in direct violation of the first amendment of the Constitution! I have no respect for those people who advocate the abrogation of free speech in America, for any reason at all!

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>Sorry, but censorship of speech, regardless of how ugly and

>offensive it is to certain segments of American society is in

>direct violation of the first amendment of the Constitution!

>I have no respect for those people who advocate the abrogation

>of free speech in America, for any reason at all!

 

 

You're not sorry at all - you're just confused.

 

Using your "logic" one must assume that you are also against school boards keeping pornography out of public school libraries. If it's OK for kids to listen to rap artists promoting the killing of gays, then what's wrong with little Johnny seeing little Billy getting it up the ass, eh?

 

And while we're at it - why not bring back the use of the "N" word. After all it was good enough for Mark Furhman. Why should that be censored?

 

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Aren't you Canadian? As such, why do any of us in the USA, have to give any credence, whatsoever to your polluted opinions? You don't have any voice, whatsoever, in our politics and policies, and should just address your concerns to your own national policies which btw means perk up your fat lips to kiss the rest of the world's ass, deny any kind of national pride, and be the lay down and take it up the butt losers that defines your national identity!

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>Aren't you Canadian? As such, why do any of us in the USA,

>have to give any credence, whatsoever to your polluted

>opinions? You don't have any voice, whatsoever, in our

>politics and policies, and should just address your concerns

>to your own national policies which btw means perk up your fat

>lips to kiss the rest of the world's ass, deny any kind of

>national pride, and be the lay down and take it up the butt

>losers that defines your national identity!

 

 

Let's see if I understand what Hawk is saying.

 

Zipperzone, a Canadian, should shut up because he's not an American.

 

Beenie Man, a Jamaican, should be allowed to perform even with his hateful lyrics.

 

Ergo, freedom of expression is only for Americans (unless they are Jamaican homophobe new reggae artists).

 

So much for consistency on the matter of free expression.

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Hoover-

 

I repsect your perspective on this issue but respectfully disagree. If it is OK for Private corporations or companies to ignore the first ammendment's right to free speach, then it would also be ok for them to ignore the rest of the constitution. It would then be ok to discriminate in our highering practices based on gender, race or sexual orientation.

 

What makes this country free are the fundamental rights promise to all in this country.

 

Anyone who has read my posts here knows how liberal I am. However, Beenie has the right to express his opinions while here in the USA.

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>Aren't you Canadian?

 

Yes - you're right hawk. I am a Canadian and damn proud of it!

 

>As such, why do any of us in the USA, have to give any credence, >whatsoever to your polluted opinions?

 

Maybe because I'm not the rabid dog you seem to be? I know you feel only Americans are allowed to have opinions, but I've got news for you - YOU"RE WRONG (again)

 

You don't have any voice, whatsoever, in our

>politics and policies, and should just address your concerns

>to your own national policies

 

You mean just like the way your government only addresses their own national policies? Discounting Itaq and a few other blips on the world's radar screen..........

 

>which btw means perk up your fat lips to kiss the rest of the >world's ass, deny any kind of national pride, and be the lay down >and take it up the butt losers that defines your national >identity!

 

Well now - let me remind you of one pertinent fact that seems to have escaped your pea sized brain. Should we - as you have suggested - decide to "lie down and take it up the butt" we are doing so with the complete and utter satisfaction of knowing that our Government is not going to persecute or prosecute us for doing so.

 

And that if we want to marry a person of our own sex, we have the legal right to do so in provinces and territories that constitute 85% of our population and that with a certainty our parliament is going to pass laws within the next year that will make it legal in all of the country and that this has already been ordered to be passed into law by our Supreme Court

 

So we may be losers (your opinion - not mine) but at least we're not homophobic losers like a country to our south that would see the likes of you persecuted and stripped of the rights that gays have fought for ever since stonewall. Consider that when you're feeling so damn superior, sir!

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>Aren't you Canadian?

 

Yes - you're right hawk. I am a Canadian and damn proud of it!

 

>As such, why do any of us in the USA, have to give any credence, >whatsoever to your polluted opinions?

 

Maybe because I'm not the rabid dog you seem to be? I know you feel only Americans are allowed to have opinions, but I've got news for you - YOU"RE WRONG (again)

 

You don't have any voice, whatsoever, in our

>politics and policies, and should just address your concerns

>to your own national policies

 

You mean just like the way your government only addresses their own national policies? Discounting Itaq and a few other blips on the world's radar screen..........

 

>which btw means perk up your fat lips to kiss the rest of the >world's ass, deny any kind of national pride, and be the lay down >and take it up the butt losers that defines your national >identity!

 

Well now - let me remind you of one pertinent fact that seems to have escaped your pea sized brain. Should we - as you have suggested - decide to "lie down and take it up the butt" we are doing so with the complete and utter satisfaction of knowing that our Government is not going to persecute or prosecute us for doing so.

 

And that if we want to marry a person of our own sex, we have the legal right to do so in provinces and territories that constitute 85% of our population and that with a certainty our parliament is going to pass laws within the next year that will make it legal in all of the country and that this has already been ordered to be passed into law by our Supreme Court

 

So we may be losers (your opinion - not mine) but at least we're not homophobic losers like a country to our south that would see the likes of you persecuted and stripped of the rights that gays have fought for ever since stonewall. Consider that when you're feeling so damn superior, sir!

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