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Ok -

 

I just watched his speech on CNN

 

I'm originally from back east and was brought up Catholic.

 

Like the CNN commentator, I am still picking my jaw up off the floor.

 

Good for him to take the high road, be courageous and come out publicly!

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to add - I'm not sure how good or bad of a governor he is/was, but it's really too bad that he feels he must resign because of this issue.

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Methinks he was going to be outted....

 

McGreevey Resigns Abruptly Over Homosexual Affair

New Jersey Governor Will Quit Nov. 15, Says 'I Am a Gay American'

By JOHN P. McALPIN, AP

 

 

 

AP file

McGreevey, left, with his wife, Dina Matos McGreevey in February.

 

TRENTON, N.J. (Aug. 12) - In a stunning declaration, Gov. James E. McGreevey acknowledged that he had an extramarital affair with another man and announced his resignation Thursday. ''My truth is that I am a gay American,'' he said.

 

''Shamefully, I engaged in adult consensual affairs with another man, which violates my bonds of matrimony,'' the married father of two said. ''It was wrong, it was foolish, it was inexcusable.''

 

The Democrat said his resignation would be effective Nov. 15.

 

McGreevey said he would step down because his secret - both his sexuality and his affair - leaves the governor's office vulnerable.

 

The former suburban mayor took office 2 1/2 years ago, and despite inheriting a $5 billion budget deficit, he steadfastly refused to boost income taxes for most New Jerseyans, instead raising taxes on millionaires, casinos and cigarettes.

 

 

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But he has been dogged by several scandals involving fund-raising.

 

Among those caught up in recent scandals were his first chief of staff and former counsel; a top Democratic fund-raiser and former high school classmate; and real estate developer Charles Kushner, McGreevey's biggest campaign contributor, who was charged with trying to thwart a federal campaign-finance investigation by luring a grand jury witness - his own brother-in-law - into a compromising position with a prostitute and sending video and photos to the man's wife.

 

McGreevey would be the second governor to resign in weeks, following the resignation in June of Connecticut GOP Gov. John Rowland amid corruption investigations and threats of impeachment.

 

McGreevey rose from suburban mayor to state chief executive by his tenacious pursuit of party politics, maintaining a power base days after he narrowly lost to Republican Christie Whitman in 1997.

 

McGreevey never truly stopped that campaign until he won in November 2001, beating Republican Bret Schundler by 15 percentage points.

 

Born in Jersey City, McGreevey graduated from Columbia University in 1978. He earned a law degree from Georgetown University in 1981 and a master's degree in education from Harvard University a year later.

 

After briefly serving as a county prosecutor, McGreevey became a lobbyist for a pharmaceutical company, then a state government official. While in the Legislature, McGreevey voted for Gov. Jim Florio's $2.8 billion tax hike that prompted a voter rebellion against Democrats.

 

 

08-12-04 16:52 EDT

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RE: Methinks he was going to be outted....

 

OK OK, I know I'm totally shallow here. But I've always thought McGreevey was pretty cute. Anyone have pics of Golan Cipel, his "advisor" who is suing him for sexual harassment. I known he's an Israeli citizen who was given a homeland security post in NJ that was very controversial. I haven't found any shots of him doing a quick google search...

 

Just curious to see if he was worth it...

 

Don't hit me! I always think with my dick first! :p

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RE: Methinks he was going to be outted....

 

I, for one, as a New Jersey citizen am glad to see McGreevey go although I don't think he should have left because he is gay. Each and every year he raised the tax on cigarettes to balance his budget. Luckily I work in Philadelphia and buy my cigarettes there daily.

But that's not the only reason, his "I'm better than you" attitude and redistributing the wealth - his millionare tax - rather than face the real causes of our skyrocketing property taxes and waging a war against the causes.

His bad appointments have constantly bit him in the ass and shown poor judgment by him.

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He is not resigning because he is gay, but because he was foolish enough to get involved with someone who apparently was mainly interested in taking advantage of the fact. A good friend of mine (a straight woman) was involved in both of his gubernatorial campaigns, and was impressed with his political savvy as a campaigner, but soon became disillusioned with him as an executive. His approval ratings have been low throughout his term, and the sex scandal would have doomed his re-election prospects, so there may be a measure of face-saving involved in using this situation as an excuse to resign now and leave the governor's office in the hands of a fellow Democrat.

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RE: Methinks he was going to be outted....

 

There must be more to come on this story of he would not have resigned, we are all in agreement on that.

 

I live in Philadelphia, so am aware that the NJ governor is not well liked for a lot of reason, but to put raising the tax as cigarette as #1 on your list is shocking. I stopped smoking a long time ago and have never, until this posting, taken anyone on anyone for smoking, but here goes. Smoke if you like, despite mountains of medical evidence that it shortens your life, seems very, very dumb to me.

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I read one report that said that the ex-lover was blackmailing him and trying to get a large chunk of money from McGreavy to keep the affair quiet. I think that is the real reason for the resignation. Go public and the slimy balckmailer has nothing on you. Going public in this affair, plus his troubles as govenor made resignation a logical path for him.

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>to add - I'm not sure how good or bad of a governor he

>is/was, but it's really too bad that he feels he must resign

>because of this issue.

 

It's a little more than just his being gay forcing him to resign. He tried to have the boy (an Israeli) appointed to a State Terrorism Job--a position for which he was neither qualified by experience nor eligible (not a US citizen)--

 

 

[Here's some documentation from a NJ Newspaper:

Despite his statements to the contrary, Gov. McGreevey, from the beginning, intended to make his now-departed Israeli adviser and friend, whose expertise was public relations, the state's point man on terrorism, documents obtained last week under the federal Freedom of Information Act show.

 

Using the terrorism attacks of Sept. 11 to justify the hiring, the governor's chief lawyer wrote a letter to the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service on McGreevey's inauguration day, telling the federal agency that New Jersey wanted Cipel to coordinate increased security with all branches of government and that Cipel had the necessary "substantial experience" in public security.

 

The letter was part of a petition by the state for a specialty work visa that had to show Cipel was qualified for what he was being hired to do.

 

Israeli military expert and journalist Yossi Melman said the letter "more than exaggerates" Cipel's experience and capabilities in the Israeli Defense Force.

 

So while the gay part makes headlines--it's really just an old story: A politician wants to put a sex object in a high position at taxpayers expense--gay, straight, it's still corruption

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RE: Methinks he was going to be outted....

 

Hard to tell from this picture. But my initial reaction is...

 

not worth it!

 

If you're going to been brought down by a sex scandal, have it be a total stud hottie.

 

Clinton had the same problem. Monica wasn't worth it, either.

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>Finally!

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>A state political scandal and it ISN'T in Illinois! :+

 

I think it was a CNN commentator who said that New Jersey has more mayors in federal prison, than any other state.

 

The story is obviously more political, than personal, but isn't everyone overlooking the obvious? The guy is still in denial, because it still isn't safe for bisexuals to come out of the closet.

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I doubt if he is really resigning. Notice that he is announcing now, but plans to resign after the election. This prevents the people of NJ from having a chance to elect a new governor, perhaps even a Republican. By resigning later, the job goes to the Democrat leader of the state senate. BUT why announce now if he intends to hold on till Nov? I suspect he is announcing two months ahead of his resignation so that he can expose the blackmail, then claim that so many people begged him not to resign that he has decided to stay on. I agree he should not resign because he is gay. But I cannot agree that he is being honorable in waiting till after the election. Not the high road.

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>I doubt if he is really resigning. Notice that he is

>announcing now, but plans to resign after the election. This

>prevents the people of NJ from having a chance to elect a new

>governor, perhaps even a Republican. By resigning later, the

>job goes to the Democrat leader of the state senate. BUT why

>announce now if he intends to hold on till Nov? I suspect he

>is announcing two months ahead of his resignation so that he

>can expose the blackmail, then claim that so many people

>begged him not to resign that he has decided to stay on. I

>agree he should not resign because he is gay. But I cannot

>agree that he is being honorable in waiting till after the

>election. Not the high road.

 

All politics is personal, as has been said many times. Peter O'Toole said to Claude Rains in "Lawrence of Arabia": "There may be honor among thieves, but there's none in politicians." At least Gov. McGreevey has breathing space for now and can get on with being governor until November comes. "Tomorrow is another day."

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Merlin makes some astute points. Clinton should have taught us all to read the actual words and what they say, not what we want them to say. I am intrigued by this suggestion, and even more so by the 3 months between the announcement and the departure.

 

There is probably more to this. My evil twin is telling me two things: 1) McGreevy needs the power of the governorship for that time to protect himself, from this lawsuit and perhaps from more; and 2) that the denial of an election to the people of New Jersey is a way for the Democrats to keep using the power of the governor's office at a time when the press is finally waking up to serious political corruption in NJ. I don't think this timing in the long run will help them though. It is too transparent a power move.

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Some good news: the silly AOL polls almost always have conservative-skewed results, but here is the result so far of today's poll about Mcgreevey:

 

What do you think of his coming out?

 

He's courageous 51%

He lied. I'm glad he resigned 49%

 

Would you vote for an openly gay politician?

 

Yes 63%

No 37%

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