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from the NYTimes, Aug 15, in an article by David Kocieniewski

 

"The governor's inner circle, in fact, thought it was possible that Mr. Cipel and Mr. Lowy might be cooperating with federal investigators as some sort of sting operation involving Mr. McGreevy."

 

This whole lawsuit/payoff deal could have been set up to entrap the governor....might be interesting when all the facts are out. Did Ashcroft blow the whistle on this "blow" job?:-)

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Cipel a Mosad agent!

 

McGreevey ‘sex scandal’ was an Israeli Intelligence operation

U.S. newswire - 8/17/2004 5:30:00 PM GMT

 

 

 

 

Few days ago we were all stuck with news that Gov. James E. McGreevey, the

a one-time rising Democratic star, announced his resignation admitting

that he is a gay. He confessed to have had an extramarital affair with a

man that he said threatened to undermine his "ability to govern."

 

Two sources close to McGreevey, and who refused to have their names

mentioned, said the man involved in the affair was Golan Cipel, an Israeli

whom McGreevey met during one of his trips to Israel.

 

Also a senior McGreevey political adviser, said Cipel threatened McGreevey

several weeks ago that unless he was paid "millions of dollars," Cipel

would file a lawsuit against the governor charging him with sexual

harassment.

 

On the other hand, Golan Cipel tried to defend himself claiming that he

was a victim of unwanted advances by the governor.

 

"He hit on me over and over," Mr. Cipel is quoted in an interview

published in the newspaper, Yediot Ahronot. "I got to a point where I was

afraid to stay with him alone."

 

However, Micah Rasmussen, a spokesman for the governor, said there was no

truth to the harassment claims.

 

And here Foreign Policy/Intelligence Columnist Andy Martin uncovers some

secrets to this regards, and asserts that McGreevey sex scandal was an

Israeli Intelligence operation.

 

"People have been confused by the McGreevey sex scandal," says Martin.

"But McGreevey's dilemma is not a gay sex scandal. It is an Israeli

intelligence operation gone sour. This is not a scandal about 'sex.' It is

a scandal about 'secrets', Martin says.

 

"McGreevey said he had sex. He did. Golan Cipel says he is not gay. He's

not. They are both right. Mr. Cipel was a junior Mossad case officer,

originally posted to New York under official cover. The Mossad is well

known for using human sex toys. McGreevey was lured into a relationship

that was intended to penetrate New Jersey's homeland defenses.

 

"Since 9/11 there has been barely suppressed anger at the fact Israeli

intelligence knew about the hijackers and said nothing. Israelis have

found themselves under suspicion and restricted by some intelligence

channels. The state homeland security position was seen as a back door way

of spying on anti-terror preparations in the New York-New Jersey area, and

possibly nationally.

 

"The media have focused on the wrong blackmail scheme. This was not a

sexual blackmail situation, although threats and demands have been made.

 

'Gay sex' is being used to conceal the real nature of the betrayal. This

was a blackmail scheme intended to place Golan Cipel in a position of

intense interest to Israeli intelligence.

 

"I am asking the U.S. Attorney for New Jersey to refocus his investigation

into a breach-of-security investigation instead of a sex scandal.

 

"Based on my extensive experience with foreign intelligence agencies, I

think you will see Mr. Cipel, who is now exposed by his non-official

cover, on a plane back to Israel very soon.

 

And indeed, Mr. Cipel said his family had asked him to return to Israel,

where he was born, but he said he would remain in the United States "until

justice is done."

 

"Gov. McGreevey was a 'fool for love,' but the root cause of his weakness

was his mistaken belief that Cipel was a lover, when he was in fact Cipel

was a trained intelligence asset trying to exploit McGreevey's weakness to

benefit Israeli security interests," says Martin.

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RE: Cipel a Mosad agent!

 

Somehow, I doubt this theory. Al-Qaeda's interest in the Newark Prudential Center notwithstanding, NJ isn't exactly the keystone of U.S. national security. If the Mossad were interested in infiltrating our national security apparatus (and I'm not sure they are) there are far more effective ways to do it without having to resort to convoluted sexual intrigues in a second-tier state!

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RE: Cipel a Mosad agent!

 

Wonderfully thought out conspiracy theory that leaves one huge question unaddressed -- why does Israel need to know about New Jersey's (or national) security preparations? Israel has no interest in attacking the U.S. We're practically the only reliable friend they have.

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RE: Cipel a Mosad agent!

 

Oh how I adore conspiracy theories! They are fun puzzles!

Pierrot, what you are missing in the above article is the assumption that the Mossad knew about the 9/11 attacks, and did nothing to warn the US. Why would they do such a thing? Simple... to keep the US at odds with the Arab world.

Before 9/11, US popular support for Israel's hardline stance against the Palestinians was absolutely dwindling. It wouldn't have been too long before American foreign policy had to address that fact. Thus, Israeli intelligence, by simply neglecting to mention the intention of a terrorist attack, made sure that America was again firmly in it's corner. Would such a simple plan work? Well, we were hysterical enough to invade Iraq, weren't we? Yes, it's going to be quite some time before the US and the Arabs warm up to one another again. Unless, of course, the american people discover (or decide) that the above conspiracy is true.

Then we're gonna be plenty pissed off at Israel.

Thus, the Mossad has a vested interest in damage control. Even the military-industrial complex that runs the US finds itself being challenged now and then. When that happens, it pays to make sure that ma & pa Middle America fully understand that there are scary, scary people "out there" who want to destroy our noble way of life.

Therefore, if the Mossad wants to keep a step ahead in the propaganda department,

they must be watching public figures, and public opinion, even in places such as New Jersey. Or Kansas, or Michigan.

Wow... I'm pretty good at this conspiracy stuff...I think I've convinced myself!

 

Trix

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RE: Cipel a Mosad agent!

 

i've not heard of "US newswire"; who are they and who is the writer with this israeli theory? if the accusations are legitimate, i'll wait for a well known reliable news source to report on the mosad links.

 

otherwise, this sounds like it belongs to the oliver stone school of fantasy. if israel knew about 9-11, it must have sources very close to bin laden which is doubtful; if they knew about 9-11, they would have known about all his other operations as well such as the USS COLE, kobar baricks, african embassy bombings, etc. while the mosad has mythic legends built up about it, there are limits to its knowledge.

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THIS ONE AIN'T GOING AWAY

 

This one ain't going away.

 

There are reports this a.m. that a credible college prof has come forward to say that he is/was (not sure which) in a romantic/sexual relationship with Cipel.

 

If true his claims of being straight are BS and makes the conspiracy theory more believeable. Hard to imagine a truly straight man allowing the gov's advances for the good of his home country. But if he was gay, he might have considered his "assignment" no big deal.

 

I predict that we have not come even close to hearing the end of this!

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RE: THIS ONE AIN'T GOING AWAY

 

All of this pre-supposes something that hasn't been demonstrated: that Cipel is involved with the Mossad. It's much more probable that Cipel is just another gold-digger who saw a chance of getting a job that pays in dollars, a U.S. visa, official protection and an interesting opportunity to extort a pile of cash. A much less fascinating scenario, but a much more likely one! x(

 

If Cipel also was involved with another man, he starts sounding more and more like Kobe Bryant's accuser!

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Huh! Not gay!

 

If Cipel is not gay, his attorney sure looked like it, when he spoke on the news channel.

 

What do they say 'Birds of a feather, stick together'!

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RE: Huh! Not gay!

 

And this from a friend:

 

 

 

Three years ago this guy was a tour guide in Israel, now he’s the Homeland Security Chief for New Jersey? He may not be gay in the same Way Bill Clinton didn’t inhale…

 

But McGreevey sure did!

 

 

 

They asked his lawyer this morning on GMA if he was being so abused why did he keep coming back for higher and higher positions? The Attorney kinda stammered and said it was the nature of the abuser… or something really lame… This guy is at least a blackmailer if not a gold digger of the first order! To try and paint him as put upon is just horse shit…

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RE: Huh! Not gay!

 

USA TODAY on page 12A on tuesday had an editorial on this. it says cipel was in the security job only a month in 2002; then mcgreevey apointed him to another job but after a few months cipel left government for two "lucrative" jobs with politically connected companies.

 

if he was a mosad agent, his usefulness on security matters would have ended in 2002 and he would have moved on. his civilian jobs were with public relations firms and i would think that would be a waste of a mosad agent. as he kept up his relationship with mcgreevey, that would point to him being gay; just sounds like a gold digger out to get all he could from the governor. it is possible a straight gold digger would keep up a love relationship but i would think it hard to keep up for so long a time (no pun intended).

 

wonder who was the top and who the bottom or if the flipped. can hardly wait for the tabloids to give us the exact details!

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Huh! Not gay! Me Inteligence Agent.

 

Golden Golan's rise & fall

 

Pals tell of charismatic go-getter

 

BY ELLEN TUMPOSKY and MATTHEW KALMAN

SPECIAL TO THE NEWS

 

 

Former McGreevey aide Golan Cipel is focus of press coverage outside parents’ home in Rishon LeZion, Israel.

 

RISHON LeZION, Israel - Once a key adviser to a powerful governor, Golan Cipel is confined to his childhood home, besieged by the press and labeled a gay blackmailer by his former mentor.

Friends and family members are reeling from the dizzying fall from grace of the go-getter who left Israel to make his mark in U.S. politics.

 

He grew up in this city of 230,000, which is 20 minutes from Tel Aviv and has a proud history as the first Zionist settlement in Israel and the place where the national anthem, "Hatikva," was composed and the national flag designed.

 

He attended high school at WIZO Nachlat Yehuda Youth Village, where a classmate, Avi Niv, remembers him as "the kind of guy you went to when you needed to organize things."

 

He didn't recall Cipel having a girlfriend, but did remember Cipel showing an interest in girls.

 

"I remember when we were 15 or 16, a girl asked him for a piece of chocolate, and he said, 'Let's go behind the gym and see you without your shirt, and then I'll give you some chocolate.' She went."

 

Cipel was active in the youth wing of Israel's Labor Party, which was where he first met Meir Nitzan, mayor of Rishon LeZion for the past 21 years. "I knew him from the age of 16," said Nitzan, 72. "He was always very organized, well-dressed. You cannot miss him."

 

Cipel's father, Avraham, worked in the Israeli aircraft industry and now, retired, drives a taxi. His mother, Leah, is a receptionist at an army base. They also have another son and a daughter who is married to Israeli TV personality Rehovot Savion.

 

Nitzan said Cipel's politics are progressive.

 

"His ideology is the ideology of the Labor Party," Nitzan said. "We would like to have peace with our neighbors." But on a personal level, he said, Cipel was motivated by ambition, not a social conscience.

 

"He is very calculating - a typical American, even though he is born in Israel, always thinking how he can promote his career," Nitzan said. "That is the most important thing in his life."

 

Cipel served in the navy as an officer and then moved to a secret position in intelligence, Niv said. Afterward, he worked for Avi Yehezkel, a Labor member of the Knesset, then moved to New York in 1994 and was studying while working as a spokesman for the Israeli Consulate.

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RE: Cipel a Mosad agent!

 

>otherwise, this sounds like it belongs to the oliver stone

>school of fantasy. if israel knew about 9-11, it must have

>sources very close to bin laden which is doubtful; if they

>knew about 9-11, they would have known about all his other

>operations as well such as the USS COLE, kobar baricks,

>african embassy bombings, etc. while the mosad has mythic

>legends built up about it, there are limits to its knowledge.

 

Yes, there are no limits...

 

 

 

 

 

 

FBI looks at Pentagon worker in Israel spy probe

Israel denies allegations

Saturday, August 28, 2004 Posted: 1:26 PM EDT (1726 GMT)

 

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The FBI has evidence that a person who has been working at high levels in the Pentagon may be a spy for Israel, senior U.S. officials have confirmed to CNN.

 

The worker could have been in a position to influence Bush administration policy toward Iran and Iraq, one of the officials said on Friday.

 

However, another government official said the worker is "not in a level to influence policy."

 

"He is an analyst in an undersecretary's office," this official said.

 

A senior Pentagon official confirmed to CNN that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld "had been made generally aware that the Justice Department had an investigation going on."

 

The Pentagon issued a statement Friday, confirming it "has been cooperating with the Department of Justice on this matter for an extended period of time."

 

"It is the DOD [Department of Defense] understanding that the investigation within the DOD is limited in its scope."

 

Government officials said a decision has not yet been made to prosecute or not. They say there may not charges at all and if there are, there may not be espionage charges.

 

CBS News, which first reported the story, said the FBI had developed evidence, including photographs and conversations recorded through wiretaps.

 

The network said the alleged spy has ties to two senior Pentagon officials: Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith.

 

Israel, lobbying group deny allegations

David Siegel, a spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, denied the allegations.

 

"The United States is Israel's most cherished friend and ally. We have a strong, ongoing, working relationship at all levels, and in no way would Israel do anything to impair this relationship."

 

An Israeli official in Washington said the U.S. government has not contacted the Israelis about any such investigation.

 

Despite the close relationship between the two countries, espionage against the United States on behalf of Israel would not be without precedent. Former U.S. Navy intelligence analyst Jonathan Pollard is serving a life sentence for passing classified material to Israel.

 

Officials said the worker passed classified documents to Israel through the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a pro-Israel lobbying group.

 

But AIPAC released a statement late Friday calling the news reports "false and baseless."

 

The statement said AIPAC learned Friday that "the government is investigating an employee of the Department of Defense for possible violations in handling confidential information."

 

A designation of the material as confidential would indicate a much lower level of secrecy than if it had been designated as classified.

 

AIPAC said it "is cooperating fully" with government authorities, including providing documents and information and making staff members available for interviews. Sources told CNN that two AIPAC employees have been interviewed in the case by the FBI.

 

"Neither AIPAC nor any of its employees has violated any laws or rules, nor has AIPAC or its employees ever received information they believed was secret or classified," the statement said.

 

"AIPAC is an American organization comprised of proud and loyal U.S. citizens committed to promoting American interests. We do not condone or tolerate any violation of any U.S. law or interests."

 

Washington insiders note that it is not unusual for friendly governments to have access to certain classified information, so even if the allegations are correct, not everyone involved may have thought they were involved in espionage.

 

Still, one U.S. source is calling the case "a very serious matter."

 

The Justice Department, speaking for the FBI, refused to comment, saying only, "We cannot confirm or deny the report."

 

An FBI spokesman said the bureau has no comment on the CBS report.

 

CNN's David Ensor, Barbara Starr, Kelli Arena and Terry Frieden contributed to this report.

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