Any appointments felt outright dengerous?

[ekoile]

On 4/13/2022 at 7:28 AM, jtwalker said:

  If someone doesn't have a year of experience, 10 reviews with an average score of 4.75, and a face pic... it is a no go for me

I agree, though since I'm not a premium member of RM, I can't leave a review anymore.

[jtwalker]

7 hours ago, ekoile said:

I agree, though since I'm not a premium member of RM, I can't leave a review anymore.

I hesitate to leave reviews on RM after one escort tried to blackmail me after a bad review.  I use burner everything, but he could've had pictures or video.  Maybe I'm just paranoid.

[spider]

One where the address turned out to be a sort of SRO place. I should have bailed, but the guy showed up outside to meet me and we went through a lobby where a sort of maintenance person gave us the eagle eye and arrive at a room that was clean but clearly only used for meet up purposes. After a not very good experience I ended the session early and escaped with nothing bad happening, it just wasn't anything I'd want to repeat. After that I paid more attention to location and saw several ads from guys who were all giving the same "close to" address. I'm sure they were all sharing the same space,

[DannyVento]

Look for guys who’ve been around a while, are ok to talk and engage with you, with a website or professional looking pictures and good reviews. 

[Guest]

18 hours ago, jtwalker said:

I hesitate to leave reviews on RM after one escort tried to blackmail me after a bad review.  I use burner everything, but he could've had pictures or video.  Maybe I'm just paranoid.

[jtwalker]

4 hours ago, Unicorn said:

Funny, because I left another bad review on RM and was again threatened.

I’ll stick to the positive reviews.  I’ve learned my lesson.

[+ Pensant]

These reports attest to the alarming increase in untreated mental illness and addiction.

[+ Lucky]

On 4/22/2022 at 5:55 AM, spider said:

One where the address turned out to be a sort of SRO place. I should have bailed, but the guy showed up outside to meet me and we went through a lobby where a sort of maintenance person gave us the eagle eye and arrive at a room that was clean but clearly only used for meet up purposes. After a not very good experience I ended the session early and escaped with nothing bad happening, it just wasn't anything I'd want to repeat. After that I paid more attention to location and saw several ads from guys who were all giving the same "close to" address. I'm sure they were all sharing the same space,

Was that on 45th Street near Times Square? I had a similar experience once.

[spider]

51 minutes ago, Lucky said:

Was that on 45th Street near Times Square? I had a similar experience once.

Not in NY, but I think these sort of shared spaces are fairly common.

[needbodywork]

Yes. I've had to bolt out the door and run away on the street more times than I can count. 

However, the providers have far more scary and weird experiences. Perhaps due to the sheer volume of people they see versus clients.

[Tonyko]

On 4/23/2022 at 9:14 AM, Lucky said:

Was that on 45th Street near Times Square? I had a similar experience once.

45th, 52nd, 55th n 8th, etc etc, as someone who lives n grew up here I have my own red flags, there are still hold overs from the old SRO days, pay month to month no deposit, sometimes a shared hall bathroom for several rooms etc.  Doesn't always mean something nefarious or a dangerous scort, but at best a seedy element I try to avoid.   *I once went to a scort living in a room like this, shared hall bath, the guy was SO obviously embarrassed by the place he kept explaining he'd lost his waiter job but didn't want to leave the city etc, his room did have a sink and next to it was a MASS of bathroom cleaning products and disinfectants and paper towels, besides being a beautiful man, I found it kind of endearing that he was so embarrassed and clean-conscious 🙂

[+ KensingtonHomo]

On 4/14/2022 at 7:47 AM, Brian Kevin said:

Anyone and everyone who was assulted, robbed, or robbed at knife point. you should call the police. When I was sexually assukted and robbed filming content in Boston, when i called 911 and has to file my reports and get my rape kit, I was totally honest and transparent. If you guys don't hold the guy who hurt you accountable, you are allowing them to hurt the next guy. 

You should be saying their names, leaving reviews, using Mr. Number to warn other guys... the last thing you should be doing is hiding behind a computer talking passively saying you don't wanna mention their name, you're right, don't mention their name, scream it.

As a three-time SA survivor, this is a lot easier said than done. Also, calling the police can make a situation worse, particularly if you're BIPOC or trans. My first assault was when I was 9. I was more worried about "admitting" I was gay than holding them accountable so I told my mother and teachers they just beat me up. The other two instances would have come down to me said/he said. There was no physical evidence in the second instance because it was coercive, not violent. The second, which was a massage therapist at a high-end, non-sexual salon didn't leave any evidence beyond would could be explained from giving me a massage. 

I have since gotten a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, and kick box regularly. And I only meet with people who have an excellent track record and lots of reviews. 

Of course, if people feel they have evidence or fear further violence, the police may help. But it's not a panacea. 

[MscleLovr]

On 4/14/2022 at 4:48 AM, Coolwave35 said:

Yes…I was robbed at a bath house. While I was cumming in his mouth he was picking my pocket.…. 

This was notorious as the modus operandi in gay clubs/discos in Barcelona about 10 years ago. An attractive guy might suggest you go into the dark area together. With your pants around your ankles, he’d fellate you to completion and empty the wallet in your back pocket. 

[LaffingBear]

Hmmm... interesting thread

My answer is, "not really anything that serious."  Dealt with some threats, some belligerence. Most of these are at least 15 years ago... one happened 2018-9.  

I had a guy verbally threaten me in my hotel room... I picked up the phone and asked for security, and he split.   "Never mind "

I had a guy I stupidly picked up for an appointment, 2 minutes after he got in my car, I wanted him gone.  He refused to leave my car.  I pulled into a parking lot, got out, remembering to take my keys, went to the passenger door and yanked him out.  

I violated my own rules and let a never-met into my home, and paid up front.  Realized I was being scammed... somehow got most of my money back and got him out of the door.   

All of the above, I was nervous.. much more than I let on.  But in the years on this board I've read again and again about encounters where people allow themselves to be victims.   I'm no big brave guy. My mind was racing, fear of 'what if he....."   I never felt like I was in tangible physical danger;  If a weapon had appeared, or even threatening physical contact had occurred, I'd have complied. But I've become aware that the  bad guys rely on fear and intimidation, and rely on people conceding very quickly.  So I took a deep breath and responded. 

Twenty or more years ago I was at an LAX hotel, with an appointment scheduled with some guy.  He was late, I called him, he said he was on the way.  Played that game at least three cycles over the next few hours.  Finally, I called and said forget it, he tried to shame me into keeping the appointment.   I declined.  A few days later I read, either on this board's predecessor or MSS or Atkol that he was arrested that same date for violence... gun or knife, I can't recall.  That's the closest I've ever come to danger - or felt I dodged a bullet. 

[Kevin Slater]

2 hours ago, LaffingBear said:

he was arrested that same date for violence... gun or knife, I can't recall.  That's the closest I've ever come to danger - or felt I dodged a bullet. 

Well, what if it was a knife?

Kevin Slater

[OCClient]

He took "jerk off" too literally.  

Not malicious as much as surprisingly incompetent.  

My boy was in danger.

 

[Brian Kevin]

On 4/24/2022 at 12:47 PM, KensingtonHomo said:

As a three-time SA survivor, this is a lot easier said than done. Also, calling the police can make a situation worse, particularly if you're BIPOC or trans. My first assault was when I was 9. I was more worried about "admitting" I was gay than holding them accountable so I told my mother and teachers they just beat me up. The other two instances would have come down to me said/he said. There was no physical evidence in the second instance because it was coercive, not violent. The second, which was a massage therapist at a high-end, non-sexual salon didn't leave any evidence beyond would could be explained from giving me a massage. 

I have since gotten a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, and kick box regularly. And I only meet with people who have an excellent track record and lots of reviews. 

Of course, if people feel they have evidence or fear further violence, the police may help. But it's not a panacea. 

Just because one is in the closet they should not suppress their feelings and the things that were done to them. If you were SA you need to seek out both the law and therapy. You are not a victim you are a survivor. I won't let you use the bipoc thing when it comes sexual assult. All u have to do is show up to the police station and then your taken to a hospital room that is completely private with you and one nurse, since you've been through this before you know how intimate and personal this is. Stop using your internalized homophobia to justify someone else attacking you. I love you. I see you and you're important. I'm completely challenging your thinking here and moving forward.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

7 hours ago, Brian Kevin said:

Just because one is in the closet they should not suppress their feelings and the things that were done to them. If you were SA you need to seek out both the law and therapy. You are not a victim you are a survivor. I won't let you use the bipoc thing when it comes sexual assult. All u have to do is show up to the police station and then your taken to a hospital room that is completely private with you and one nurse, since you've been through this before you know how intimate and personal this is. Stop using your internalized homophobia to justify someone else attacking you. I love you. I see you and you're important. I'm completely challenging your thinking here and moving forward.

Girl, I didn't ask for your opinion, let alone for you to condescend to me with your "love" while asserting that I have "internalized homophobia."  I've been in therapy since I'm 5 years old. I've well-processed all that happened to me. 

And I'm a prison abolitionist so I'm not calling the police over shit that happened 30 years ago, even if the statute of limitations hadn't run out. 

[+ Jamesp]

Few people reached out to get name of the provider, I will send in DM.

[+ Italiano]

On 4/13/2022 at 6:56 AM, Medin said:

Yes.  I had a masseur hold me at knife point and steal my wallet back in Aug 2019.  He is still active on all the massage sites but has changed his name at least nine times since then.  All attempts to have him banned from RM and MF have been futile unfortunately.  I've been exceptionally cautious ever since.  

And we spoke about this guy very recently...

[BaronArtz]

2 hours ago, Italiano said:

And we spoke about this guy very recently...

Would you mind saying who it is?  Even in a DM, if you prefer.

Thank you.

[+ Italiano]

21 hours ago, BaronArtz said:

Would you mind saying who it is?  Even in a DM, if you prefer.

Thank you.

 

[Luv2play]

On 4/25/2022 at 5:10 AM, MscleLovr said:

This was notorious as the modus operandi in gay clubs/discos in Barcelona about 10 years ago. An attractive guy might suggest you go into the dark area together. With your pants around your ankles, he’d fellate you to completion and empty the wallet in your back pocket. 

A good reason just to have the price of a blowjob in your wallet and nothing else.

[+ Italiano]

On 4/25/2022 at 5:10 AM, MscleLovr said:

This was notorious as the modus operandi in gay clubs/discos in Barcelona about 10 years ago. An attractive guy might suggest you go into the dark area together. With your pants around your ankles, he’d fellate you to completion and empty the wallet in your back pocket. 

This reminds me of one time (about 20 years ago...) when I went during a hot summer night in the amazing Park by the Hilton in Tel Aviv, where everything possible between gay men happened, an open air evening/night meat market.

The park was situated on top of a little hill overlooking the gay beach, with a spectacular view. I used to go often to Tel Aviv in July back then for work, and I have had great encounters there. One evening I see this guy approaching me, most probably Arab, very attractive, muscular, with very short shorts and tank top. I had seen him other times wondering in the park, but for some reason he didn't give me a good vibe. For once  I accepted his approach. We went into the bushes in a little secluded area (the Park used to be VERY busy every night!), we started to fondle each other for a few minutes until I noticed that his dick was always soft without a hint of getting hard even if was insisting in keeping very close and keeping fondling, so I stepped back and left. About 1/2 hour later, not having had successful in hooking up, I decided to go back to my hotel and realized that my 200 shekels (about 50$ at the time) that I had in my back pocket were gone! 

I have to say that the guy was very clever, I didn't realize his maneuver, really a professional pickpocket...!

[rustyrex]

I’ve been in some odd situations where I thought that a provider would over muscle me and rob me.  That’s why I don’t carry cash.  I know a lot guys are insistent with cash and payment up front but to me that’s the first red flag.  If you walk into his place and smell drugs or see that is a mess that another warning.  If his behavior is so odd and you notice teeth grinding or ticks…get out of there fast.  It’s a shame but as things have gotten financially worse the possibility of having something happen to you is definitely increased.  If something feels off, protect yourself and get out of the situation.